From: Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>
To: Ian Campbell <ian.campbell@citrix.com>,
Jan Beulich <JBeulich@suse.com>,
Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>
Cc: mpohlack@amazon.de, ian.jackson@eu.citrix.com,
dgdegra@tycho.nsa.gov, wei.liu2@citrix.com,
xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 2/4] xen-version: Add third parameter (len) to the do_version hypercall.
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2015 13:58:48 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5617BA08.7010703@citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1444394805.1410.376.camel@citrix.com>
On 09/10/15 13:46, Ian Campbell wrote:
> On Fri, 2015-10-09 at 13:29 +0100, Andrew Cooper wrote:
>> On 09/10/15 09:25, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>>>>> On 09.10.15 at 04:56, <konrad.wilk@oracle.com> wrote:
>>>> All existing commands ignore the parameter so this does
>>>> not break the ABI.
>>> Does it not? What about the debug mode clobbering of hypercall
>>> argument registers?
>> That is an implementation detail of the hypervisor. It is irrelevant to
>> guests whether Xen chooses to clobber the spare registers or not.
> Or in other words the effect here is to clobber one _less_ register, and
> the guest cannot have been relying on a register getting so clobbered (if
> nothing else it doesn't happen in debug=n builds).
Correct - that is definitely a better phrasing.
> The flip side is that we are now no longer clobbering that register even
> for existing sub-ops which do not use it (since the clobbering doesn't go
> down to the subop level). So there is a risk that a guest may come to
> depend on that register not being clobbered and then fail older debug=y
> hypervisors.
>
> This second scenario doesn't seem especially likely to me.
>
> Do we not already have one or two hypercalls where subops consume different
> numbers of parameters anyway? HYPERVISOR_sched_op I think has this property
> and we've not been too concerned.
SCHEDOP_shutdown(suspend) effectively has a third parameter for PV
guests, but that is done entirely by the toolstack using the VMs
register context.
Xen isn't aware of it, and the duration of do_sched_op() does have the
register clobbered.
~Andrew
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-10-09 12:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-10-09 2:56 [PATCH v1] Add build-id to XENVER hypercall Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2015-10-09 2:56 ` [PATCH v1 1/4] xsm/libxl/xen_version: Add XSM for some of the xen_version commands Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2015-10-09 9:31 ` Ian Campbell
2015-10-30 10:24 ` Martin Pohlack
2015-10-09 12:20 ` Andrew Cooper
2015-10-30 10:24 ` Martin Pohlack
2015-10-09 2:56 ` [PATCH v1 2/4] xen-version: Add third parameter (len) to the do_version hypercall Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2015-10-09 8:25 ` Jan Beulich
2015-10-09 12:29 ` Andrew Cooper
2015-10-09 12:46 ` Ian Campbell
2015-10-09 12:58 ` Andrew Cooper [this message]
2015-10-09 14:38 ` Jan Beulich
2015-10-09 14:48 ` Ian Campbell
2015-10-28 17:55 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2015-10-28 18:34 ` Andrew Cooper
2015-10-28 18:58 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2015-10-29 9:06 ` Jan Beulich
2015-10-09 2:56 ` [PATCH v1 3/4] XENVER_build_id: Provide ld-embedded build-ids Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2015-10-09 9:35 ` Ian Campbell
2015-10-09 11:40 ` Martin Pohlack
2015-10-09 12:47 ` Andrew Cooper
2015-10-09 15:18 ` Jan Beulich
2016-01-06 18:07 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2015-10-09 2:56 ` [PATCH v1 4/4] libxl: info: Display build_id of the hypervisor Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2015-10-09 9:36 ` Ian Campbell
2015-10-09 12:59 ` Andrew Cooper
2015-10-09 13:06 ` Ian Campbell
2015-10-09 13:11 ` Andrew Cooper
2015-10-09 13:14 ` Ian Campbell
2015-10-09 13:16 ` Ian Campbell
2015-10-09 8:17 ` [PATCH v1] Add build-id to XENVER hypercall Jan Beulich
2015-10-09 12:15 ` Andrew Cooper
2015-10-09 13:25 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2015-10-09 15:14 ` Jan Beulich
2015-10-28 15:42 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2015-10-28 19:00 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2015-10-29 8:55 ` Jan Beulich
2015-10-29 19:47 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2015-10-30 8:11 ` Jan Beulich
2015-10-09 14:32 ` Jan Beulich
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