From: Ross Lagerwall <ross.lagerwall@citrix.com>
To: Martin Pohlack <mpohlack@amazon.com>,
Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>,
msw@amazon.com, aliguori@amazon.com,
Antony Messerli <amesserl@rackspace.com>,
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Major Hayden <major.hayden@rackspace.com>,
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andrew.cooper3@citrix.com, jeremy@goop.org
Cc: konrad@darnok.org
Subject: Re: [RFC v2] xSplice design
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2015 12:05:01 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <562F686D.5010903@citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <557AC4D9.2000802@amazon.com>
On 06/12/2015 12:39 PM, Martin Pohlack wrote:
> On 15.05.2015 21:44, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote:
> [...]
>> ## Hypercalls
>>
>> We will employ the sub operations of the system management hypercall (sysctl).
>> There are to be four sub-operations:
>>
>> * upload the payloads.
>> * listing of payloads summary uploaded and their state.
>> * getting an particular payload summary and its state.
>> * command to apply, delete, or revert the payload.
>>
>> The patching is asynchronous therefore the caller is responsible
>> to verify that it has been applied properly by retrieving the summary of it
>> and verifying that there are no error codes associated with the payload.
>>
>> We **MUST** make it asynchronous due to the nature of patching: it requires
>> every physical CPU to be lock-step with each other. The patching mechanism
>> while an implementation detail, is not an short operation and as such
>> the design **MUST** assume it will be an long-running operation.
>
> I am not convinced yet, that you need an asynchronous approach here.
>
> The experience from our prototype suggests that hotpatching itself is
> not an expensive operation. It can usually be completed well below 1ms
> with the most expensive part being getting the hypervisor to a quiet state.
>
FWIW, my current implementation (which is almost certainly not optimal)
tested on a 72 CPU machine takes about 3ms, whether idle or fully loaded.
--
Ross Lagerwall
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-10-27 12:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-05-15 19:44 [RFC v2] xSplice design Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2015-05-18 12:41 ` Jan Beulich
2015-06-05 14:49 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2015-06-05 15:16 ` Jan Beulich
2015-06-05 16:00 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2015-06-05 16:14 ` Jan Beulich
2015-05-18 12:54 ` Liuqiming (John)
2015-05-18 13:11 ` Daniel Kiper
2015-06-05 14:50 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2015-05-19 19:13 ` Lars Kurth
2015-05-20 15:11 ` Martin Pohlack
2015-06-05 15:00 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2015-06-05 15:15 ` Andrew Cooper
2015-06-05 15:27 ` Jan Beulich
2015-06-08 8:34 ` Martin Pohlack
2015-06-08 8:51 ` Jan Beulich
2015-06-08 14:38 ` Martin Pohlack
2015-06-08 15:19 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2015-06-12 11:51 ` Martin Pohlack
2015-06-12 14:06 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2015-06-12 11:39 ` Martin Pohlack
2015-06-12 14:03 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2015-06-12 14:31 ` Martin Pohlack
2015-06-12 14:43 ` Jan Beulich
2015-06-12 17:31 ` Martin Pohlack
2015-06-12 18:46 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2015-06-12 16:09 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2015-06-12 16:17 ` Andrew Cooper
2015-06-12 16:39 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2015-06-12 18:36 ` Martin Pohlack
2015-06-12 18:51 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2015-07-06 19:36 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2015-10-27 12:05 ` Ross Lagerwall [this message]
2015-10-29 16:55 ` Ross Lagerwall
2015-10-30 10:39 ` Martin Pohlack
2015-10-30 14:03 ` Ross Lagerwall
2015-10-30 14:06 ` Martin Pohlack
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