From: Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>
To: Stefano Stabellini <stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com>,
"Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
"xen-devel@lists.xen.org" <xen-devel@lists.xen.org>,
Keir Fraser <keir@xen.org>,
Ian Jackson <ian.jackson@eu.citrix.com>,
Ian Campbell <ian.campbell@citrix.com>,
Jan Beulich <jbeulich@suse.com>, Wei Liu <wei.liu2@citrix.com>,
"Nakajima, Jun" <jun.nakajima@intel.com>,
Xiao Guangrong <guangrong.xiao@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] add support for vNVDIMM
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2016 14:54:48 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <569F9FB8.8@citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160120144715.GE11445@hz-desktop.sh.intel.com>
On 20/01/16 14:47, Zhang, Haozhong wrote:
> On 01/20/16 14:35, Stefano Stabellini wrote:
>> On Wed, 20 Jan 2016, Zhang, Haozhong wrote:
>>> On 01/20/16 12:43, Stefano Stabellini wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 20 Jan 2016, Tian, Kevin wrote:
>>>>>> From: Zhang, Haozhong
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 7:32 PM
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This patch series is the Xen part patch to provide virtual NVDIMM to
>>>>>> guest. The corresponding QEMU patch series is sent separately with the
>>>>>> title "[PATCH 0/2] add vNVDIMM support for Xen".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * Background
>>>>>>
>>>>>> NVDIMM (Non-Volatile Dual In-line Memory Module) is going to be
>>>>>> supported on Intel's platform. NVDIMM devices are discovered via ACPI
>>>>>> and configured by _DSM method of NVDIMM device in ACPI. Some
>>>>>> documents can be found at
>>>>>> [1] ACPI 6: http://www.uefi.org/sites/default/files/resources/ACPI_6.0.pdf
>>>>>> [2] NVDIMM Namespace: http://pmem.io/documents/NVDIMM_Namespace_Spec.pdf
>>>>>> [3] DSM Interface Example:
>>>>>> http://pmem.io/documents/NVDIMM_DSM_Interface_Example.pdf
>>>>>> [4] Driver Writer's Guide:
>>>>>> http://pmem.io/documents/NVDIMM_Driver_Writers_Guide.pdf
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The upstream QEMU (commits 5c42eef ~ 70d1fb9) has added support to
>>>>>> provide virtual NVDIMM in PMEM mode, in which NVDIMM devices are
>>>>>> mapped into CPU's address space and are accessed via normal memory
>>>>>> read/write and three special instructions (clflushopt/clwb/pcommit).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This patch series and the corresponding QEMU patch series enable Xen
>>>>>> to provide vNVDIMM devices to HVM domains.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * Design
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Supporting vNVDIMM in PMEM mode has three requirements.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Although this design is about vNVDIMM, some background of how pNVDIMM
>>>>> is managed in Xen would be helpful to understand the whole design since
>>>>> in PMEM mode you need map pNVDIMM into GFN addr space so there's
>>>>> a matter of how pNVDIMM is allocated.
>>>> Yes, some background would be very helpful. Given that there are so many
>>>> moving parts on this (Xen, the Dom0 kernel, QEMU, hvmloader, libxl)
>>>> I suggest that we start with a design document for this feature.
>>> Let me prepare a design document. Basically, it would include
>>> following contents. Please let me know if you want anything additional
>>> to be included.
>> Thank you!
>>
>>
>>> * What NVDIMM is and how it is used
>>> * Software interface of NVDIMM
>>> - ACPI NFIT: what parameters are recorded and their usage
>>> - ACPI SSDT: what _DSM methods are provided and their functionality
>>> - New instructions: clflushopt/clwb/pcommit
>>> * How the linux kernel drives NVDIMM
>>> - ACPI parsing
>>> - Block device interface
>>> - Partition NVDIMM devices
>>> * How KVM/QEMU implements vNVDIMM
>> This is a very good start.
>>
>>
>>> * What I propose to implement vNVDIMM in Xen
>>> - Xen hypervisor/toolstack: new instruction enabling and address mapping
>>> - Dom0 Linux kernel: host NVDIMM driver
>>> - QEMU: virtual NFIT/SSDT, _DSM handling, and role in address mapping
>> This is OK. It might be also good to list other options that were
>> discussed, but it is certainly not necessary in first instance.
> I'll include them.
>
> And one thing missed above:
> * What I propose to implement vNVDIMM in Xen
> - Building vNFIT and vSSDT: copy them from QEMU to Xen toolstack
>
> I know it is controversial and will record other options and my reason
> for this choice.
Please would you split the subjects of "how to architect guest NVDIMM
support in Xen" from "how to get suitable ACPI tables into a guest".
The former depends on the latter, but they are two different problems to
solve and shouldn't be conflated in one issue.
~Andrew
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-01-20 14:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 88+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-12-29 11:31 [PATCH 0/4] add support for vNVDIMM Haozhong Zhang
2015-12-29 11:31 ` [PATCH 1/4] x86/hvm: allow guest to use clflushopt and clwb Haozhong Zhang
2015-12-29 15:46 ` Andrew Cooper
2015-12-30 1:35 ` Haozhong Zhang
2015-12-30 2:16 ` Haozhong Zhang
2015-12-30 10:33 ` Andrew Cooper
2015-12-29 11:31 ` [PATCH 2/4] x86/hvm: add support for pcommit instruction Haozhong Zhang
2015-12-29 11:31 ` [PATCH 3/4] tools/xl: add a new xl configuration 'nvdimm' Haozhong Zhang
2016-01-04 11:16 ` Wei Liu
2016-01-06 12:40 ` Jan Beulich
2016-01-06 15:28 ` Haozhong Zhang
2015-12-29 11:31 ` [PATCH 4/4] hvmloader: add support to load extra ACPI tables from qemu Haozhong Zhang
2016-01-15 17:10 ` Jan Beulich
2016-01-18 0:52 ` Haozhong Zhang
2016-01-18 8:46 ` Jan Beulich
2016-01-19 11:37 ` Wei Liu
2016-01-19 11:46 ` Jan Beulich
2016-01-20 5:14 ` Tian, Kevin
2016-01-20 5:58 ` Zhang, Haozhong
2016-01-20 5:31 ` Haozhong Zhang
2016-01-20 8:46 ` Jan Beulich
2016-01-20 8:58 ` Andrew Cooper
2016-01-20 10:15 ` Haozhong Zhang
2016-01-20 10:36 ` Xiao Guangrong
2016-01-20 13:16 ` Andrew Cooper
2016-01-20 14:29 ` Stefano Stabellini
2016-01-20 14:42 ` Haozhong Zhang
2016-01-20 14:45 ` Andrew Cooper
2016-01-20 14:53 ` Haozhong Zhang
2016-01-20 15:13 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-01-20 15:29 ` Haozhong Zhang
2016-01-20 15:41 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-01-20 15:54 ` Haozhong Zhang
2016-01-21 3:35 ` Bob Liu
2016-01-20 15:05 ` Stefano Stabellini
2016-01-20 18:14 ` Andrew Cooper
2016-01-20 14:38 ` Haozhong Zhang
2016-01-20 11:04 ` Haozhong Zhang
2016-01-20 11:20 ` Jan Beulich
2016-01-20 15:29 ` Xiao Guangrong
2016-01-20 15:47 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-01-20 16:25 ` Xiao Guangrong
2016-01-20 16:47 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-01-20 16:55 ` Xiao Guangrong
2016-01-20 17:18 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-01-20 17:23 ` Xiao Guangrong
2016-01-20 17:48 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-01-21 3:12 ` Haozhong Zhang
2016-01-20 17:07 ` Jan Beulich
2016-01-20 17:17 ` Xiao Guangrong
2016-01-21 8:18 ` Jan Beulich
2016-01-21 8:25 ` Xiao Guangrong
2016-01-21 8:53 ` Jan Beulich
2016-01-21 9:10 ` Xiao Guangrong
2016-01-21 9:29 ` Andrew Cooper
2016-01-21 10:26 ` Jan Beulich
2016-01-21 10:25 ` Jan Beulich
2016-01-21 14:01 ` Haozhong Zhang
2016-01-21 14:52 ` Jan Beulich
2016-01-22 2:43 ` Haozhong Zhang
2016-01-26 11:44 ` George Dunlap
2016-01-26 12:44 ` Jan Beulich
2016-01-26 12:54 ` Juergen Gross
2016-01-26 14:44 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-01-26 15:37 ` Jan Beulich
2016-01-26 15:57 ` Haozhong Zhang
2016-01-26 16:34 ` Jan Beulich
2016-01-26 19:32 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-01-27 7:22 ` Haozhong Zhang
2016-01-27 10:16 ` Jan Beulich
2016-01-27 14:50 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-01-27 10:55 ` George Dunlap
2016-01-26 13:58 ` George Dunlap
2016-01-26 14:46 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-01-26 15:30 ` Haozhong Zhang
2016-01-26 15:33 ` Haozhong Zhang
2016-01-26 15:57 ` Jan Beulich
2016-01-27 2:23 ` Haozhong Zhang
2016-01-20 15:07 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-01-06 15:37 ` [PATCH 0/4] add support for vNVDIMM Ian Campbell
2016-01-06 15:47 ` Haozhong Zhang
2016-01-20 3:28 ` Tian, Kevin
2016-01-20 12:43 ` Stefano Stabellini
2016-01-20 14:26 ` Zhang, Haozhong
2016-01-20 14:35 ` Stefano Stabellini
2016-01-20 14:47 ` Zhang, Haozhong
2016-01-20 14:54 ` Andrew Cooper [this message]
2016-01-20 15:59 ` Haozhong Zhang
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