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From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: "Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@do-not-panic.com>
Cc: "Takashi Iwai" <tiwai@suse.de>, "Avi Kivity" <avi@redhat.com>,
	"Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk" <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>,
	"Boris Ostrovsky" <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com>,
	"Roger Pau Monné" <roger.pau@citrix.com>,
	"Stefano Stabellini" <stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com>,
	"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"Ingo Molnar" <mingo@redhat.com>,
	"Borislav Petkov" <bp@alien8.de>,
	"Rusty Russell" <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
	"Andy Lutomirski" <luto@amacapital.net>,
	"Michael Brown" <mcb30@ipxe.org>,
	"Juergen Gross" <jgross@suse.com>,
	"Jan Beulich" <JBeulich@suse.com>,
	joro@8bytes.org, "Andrey Ryabinin" <ryabinin.a.a@gmail.com>,
	long.wanglong@huawei.com, qiuxishi@huawei.com,
	aryabinin@virtuozzo.com,
	"Mauro Carvalho Chehab" <mchehab@osg.samsung.com>,
	"Valentin Rothberg" <valentinrothberg@gmail.com>,
	"Peter Senna Tschudin" <peter.senna@gmail.com>,
	"X86 ML" <x86@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC v1 4/8] x86/init: add linker table support
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2016 16:42:41 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <56A17B01.9040708@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAB=NE6WoKsP8+KGnJEtigWYktCMjg6iherCOcq-jskxi4P2QqA@mail.gmail.com>

On 01/21/16 16:25, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote:
>>
>> Basically, if the hardware is enumerable using standard PC mechanisms (PCI, ACPI) and doesn't need a special boot flow it should use type 0.
> 
> I can extend the documentation as part of this to be clear.
> 
> I will note though that this still leaves a gap on code which might
> want to access the question "are we in a virt environment, and if so
> on which one" in between really early boot and right before
> init_hypervisor_platform(). Or rather, given subarch can be used by
> Xen and lguest but not KVM it means KVM doesn't get to use it. It may
> not need it, but its also rather trivial to set up on qemu, and I have
> a patch for that if we wanted one for KVM. That would extend the
> definition of subarch a bit more, but as it stands today its use was
> rather limited. Heck, subharch_data is to this day unused.
> 

KVM is not a subarch, and Xen HVM isn't either; the subarch was meant to
be specifically to handle nonstandard boot entries; the CE4100 extension
was itself kind of a hack.

If you have a genuine need for a "hypervisor type" then that is a
separate thing and should be treated separately from subarch.  However,
you need to consider that some hypervisors can emulate other hypervisors
and you may have more than one hypervisor API available.

	-hpa

  reply	other threads:[~2016-01-22  0:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-12-15 22:16 [RFC v1 0/8] x86/init: Linux linker tables Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-12-15 22:16 ` [RFC v1 1/8] paravirt: rename paravirt_enabled to paravirt_legacy Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-01-20 19:32   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-02-04 22:50     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-12-15 22:16 ` [RFC v1 2/8] tables.h: add linker table support Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-01-20 20:04   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-01-20 23:15     ` Michael Brown
2016-01-20 23:24       ` H. Peter Anvin
2015-12-15 22:16 ` [RFC v1 3/8] x86/boot: add BIT() to boot/bitops.h Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-01-20 20:17   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-01-20 20:33     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-12-15 22:16 ` [RFC v1 4/8] x86/init: add linker table support Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-01-20 20:45   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-01-20 21:00   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-01-20 21:33     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-01-20 21:41       ` H. Peter Anvin
2016-01-20 22:12         ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-01-20 22:20           ` H. Peter Anvin
2016-01-22  0:25             ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-01-22  0:42               ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2016-02-11 20:45                 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-01-21  8:38       ` Roger Pau Monné
2016-01-21 13:45         ` Boris Ostrovsky
2016-01-21 19:25           ` H. Peter Anvin
2016-01-21 19:46             ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-01-21 19:50               ` H. Peter Anvin
2016-01-21 19:52                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2016-01-22  0:19                   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-01-21 20:05                 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-01-21 21:36                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2015-12-15 22:16 ` [RFC v1 5/8] x86/init: move ebda reservations into linker table Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-12-17 20:48   ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-12-17 20:55     ` H. Peter Anvin
2015-12-17 20:57       ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-12-17 23:40         ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-01-20 20:46   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2015-12-15 22:16 ` [RFC v1 6/8] x86/init: use linker table for i386 early setup Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-01-20 21:14   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-01-20 21:41     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-02-11 19:55       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-12-15 22:16 ` [RFC v1 7/8] x86/init: user linker table for ce4100 " Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-01-20 21:14   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2015-12-15 22:16 ` [RFC v1 8/8] x86/init: use linker table for mid " Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-01-20 21:15   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2015-12-15 22:59 ` [RFC v1 0/8] x86/init: Linux linker tables H. Peter Anvin
2015-12-17 20:38 ` H. Peter Anvin
2015-12-17 23:46   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-12-17 23:58     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-12-18  4:25     ` H. Peter Anvin
2015-12-18  4:40       ` H. Peter Anvin
2016-01-21 20:19         ` H. Peter Anvin
2016-01-21 20:33           ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-01-21 21:37             ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-01-21 22:25               ` [Xen-devel] " Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-01-21 23:56                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2016-01-22  0:28                   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-01-22  8:15               ` Michael Brown
2016-01-22 13:44           ` Michael Matz
2016-01-22 19:06             ` H. Peter Anvin
2016-01-22 21:52               ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-02-03  0:22                 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-02-03  0:25                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2016-02-03  0:28                     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-02-03  0:48                       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-02-02 23:48             ` H. Peter Anvin
2016-02-03  0:15               ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-12-18 18:50       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-12-18 18:58         ` H. Peter Anvin
2016-01-20 21:16 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-01-20 21:49   ` Luis R. Rodriguez

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