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From: Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>
To: Jan Beulich <JBeulich@suse.com>, Ian Jackson <Ian.Jackson@eu.citrix.com>
Cc: kevin.tian@intel.com, wei.liu2@citrix.com,
	ian.campbell@citrix.com, stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com,
	xen-devel@lists.xen.org, Paul.Durrant@citrix.com,
	Zhang Yu <yu.c.zhang@linux.intel.com>,
	zhiyuan.lv@intel.com, keir@xen.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 3/3] tools: introduce parameter max_wp_ram_ranges.
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2016 11:31:52 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <56B093A8.6020209@citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <56B093B802000078000CD5FE@prv-mh.provo.novell.com>

On 02/02/16 10:32, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>>> On 01.02.16 at 18:05, <Ian.Jackson@eu.citrix.com> wrote:
>> Having said that, if the hypervisor maintainers are happy with a
>> situation where this value is configured explicitly, and the
>> configurations where a non-default value is required is expected to be
>> rare, then I guess we can live with it.
> Well, from the very beginning I have been not very happy with
> the introduction of this, and I still consider it half way acceptable
> only because of not seeing any good alternative. If we look at
> it strictly, it's in violation of the rule we set forth after XSA-77:
> No introduction of new code making the system susceptible to
> bad (malicious) tool stack behavior

Lets take a step back here.

If your toolstack is malicious, you have already lost.  Coding Xen
around this is a waste of time.

The XSM case is for splitting out some of the privileged domains
responsibilities to less privileged domains.  In these cases, we do
indeed want to assure that the somewhat-privileged entity cannot abuse
anything outside its area of privilege.

This specific issue concerns resource allocation during domain building
and is an area which can never ever be given to a less privileged entity.

~Andrew

  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-02-02 11:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 109+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-01-29 10:45 [PATCH v12 0/3] Refactor ioreq server for better performance Yu Zhang
2016-01-29 10:45 ` [PATCH v12 1/3] Refactor rangeset structure " Yu Zhang
2016-01-29 10:45 ` [PATCH v12 2/3] Differentiate IO/mem resources tracked by ioreq server Yu Zhang
2016-01-29 10:45 ` [PATCH v3 3/3] tools: introduce parameter max_wp_ram_ranges Yu Zhang
2016-01-29 16:33   ` Jan Beulich
2016-01-30 14:38     ` Yu, Zhang
2016-02-01  7:52       ` Jan Beulich
2016-02-01 12:02         ` Wei Liu
2016-02-01 12:15           ` Jan Beulich
2016-02-01 12:49             ` Wei Liu
2016-02-01 13:07               ` Jan Beulich
2016-02-01 15:14                 ` Yu, Zhang
2016-02-01 16:16                   ` Jan Beulich
2016-02-01 16:33                     ` Yu, Zhang
2016-02-01 16:19                   ` Yu, Zhang
2016-02-01 16:35                     ` Jan Beulich
2016-02-01 16:37                       ` Yu, Zhang
2016-02-01 17:05                         ` Ian Jackson
2016-02-02  8:04                           ` Yu, Zhang
2016-02-02 11:51                             ` Wei Liu
2016-02-02 13:56                               ` Yu, Zhang
2016-02-02 10:32                           ` Jan Beulich
2016-02-02 10:56                             ` Yu, Zhang
2016-02-02 11:12                               ` Jan Beulich
2016-02-02 14:01                                 ` Yu, Zhang
2016-02-02 14:42                                   ` Jan Beulich
2016-02-02 15:00                                     ` Yu, Zhang
2016-02-02 15:21                                       ` Jan Beulich
2016-02-02 15:19                                         ` Yu, Zhang
2016-02-03  7:10                                         ` Yu, Zhang
2016-02-03  8:32                                           ` Jan Beulich
2016-02-03 12:20                                             ` Paul Durrant
2016-02-03 12:35                                               ` Jan Beulich
2016-02-03 12:50                                                 ` Paul Durrant
2016-02-03 13:00                                                   ` Jan Beulich
2016-02-03 13:07                                                     ` Paul Durrant
2016-02-03 13:17                                                       ` Jan Beulich
2016-02-03 13:18                                                         ` Paul Durrant
2016-02-03 14:43                                                           ` Ian Jackson
2016-02-03 15:10                                                             ` Paul Durrant
2016-02-03 17:50                                                               ` George Dunlap
2016-02-04  8:50                                                                 ` Yu, Zhang
2016-02-03 17:41                                                             ` George Dunlap
2016-02-03 18:21                                                               ` George Dunlap
2016-02-03 18:26                                                                 ` George Dunlap
2016-02-03 18:39                                                                 ` Andrew Cooper
2016-02-03 19:12                                                                   ` George Dunlap
2016-02-04  8:51                                                                     ` Yu, Zhang
2016-02-04 10:49                                                                       ` George Dunlap
2016-02-04 11:08                                                                         ` Ian Campbell
2016-02-04 11:19                                                                           ` Ian Campbell
2016-02-04  8:50                                                                 ` Yu, Zhang
2016-02-04  9:28                                                                   ` Paul Durrant
2016-02-04  9:38                                                                     ` Yu, Zhang
2016-02-04  9:49                                                                       ` Paul Durrant
2016-02-04 10:34                                                                       ` Jan Beulich
2016-02-04 13:33                                                                         ` Ian Jackson
2016-02-04 13:47                                                                           ` Paul Durrant
2016-02-04 14:12                                                                             ` Jan Beulich
2016-02-04 14:25                                                                               ` Paul Durrant
2016-02-04 15:06                                                                                 ` Ian Jackson
2016-02-04 15:51                                                                                   ` Paul Durrant
2016-02-05  3:47                                                                                     ` Tian, Kevin
2016-02-05  3:35                                                                               ` Tian, Kevin
2016-02-04 14:08                                                                           ` Jan Beulich
2016-02-04 17:12                                                                             ` George Dunlap
2016-02-05  4:18                                                                               ` Tian, Kevin
2016-02-05  8:41                                                                                 ` Yu, Zhang
2016-02-05  8:32                                                                               ` Jan Beulich
2016-02-05  9:24                                                                                 ` Paul Durrant
2016-02-05 10:41                                                                                   ` Jan Beulich
2016-02-05 11:14                                                                                   ` George Dunlap
2016-02-05 11:24                                                                                     ` Paul Durrant
2016-02-16  7:22                                                                                       ` Tian, Kevin
2016-02-16  8:50                                                                                         ` Paul Durrant
2016-02-16 10:33                                                                                           ` Jan Beulich
2016-02-16 11:11                                                                                             ` Paul Durrant
2016-02-17  3:18                                                                                               ` Tian, Kevin
2016-02-17  8:58                                                                                                 ` Paul Durrant
2016-02-17  9:32                                                                                                   ` Jan Beulich
2016-02-17  9:58                                                                                                   ` Tian, Kevin
2016-02-17 10:03                                                                                                     ` Paul Durrant
2016-02-17 10:22                                                                                                     ` Jan Beulich
2016-02-17 10:24                                                                                                       ` Paul Durrant
2016-02-17 10:25                                                                                                         ` Tian, Kevin
2016-02-17 11:01                                                                                                       ` George Dunlap
2016-02-17 11:12                                                                                                         ` Paul Durrant
2016-02-22 15:56                                                                                                           ` George Dunlap
2016-02-22 16:02                                                                                                             ` Paul Durrant
2016-02-22 16:45                                                                                                               ` George Dunlap
2016-02-22 17:01                                                                                                                 ` Paul Durrant
2016-02-22 17:23                                                                                                                   ` George Dunlap
2016-02-22 17:34                                                                                                                     ` Paul Durrant
2016-02-05  8:41                                                                               ` Yu, Zhang
2016-02-04 11:06                                                                       ` George Dunlap
2016-02-05  2:01                                                                         ` Zhiyuan Lv
2016-02-05  3:44                                                                           ` Tian, Kevin
2016-02-05  8:38                                                                             ` Jan Beulich
2016-02-05 11:05                                                                             ` George Dunlap
2016-02-05 15:13                                                                               ` Zhiyuan Lv
2016-02-05 20:14                                                                                 ` George Dunlap
2016-02-05  8:40                                                                         ` Yu, Zhang
2016-02-04 10:06                                                               ` Ian Campbell
2016-02-05  3:31                                                                 ` Tian, Kevin
2016-02-02 11:31                             ` Andrew Cooper [this message]
2016-02-02 11:43                               ` Jan Beulich
2016-02-02 14:20                                 ` Andrew Cooper
2016-02-01 11:57   ` Wei Liu
2016-02-01 15:15     ` Yu, Zhang

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