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From: Andrei Borzenkov <arvidjaar@gmail.com>
To: Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>,
	The development of GNU GRUB <grub-devel@gnu.org>
Cc: "xen-devel@lists.xensource.com" <xen-devel@lists.xensource.com>,
	Ian Campbell <Ian.Campbell@citrix.com>,
	Vladimir Serbinenko <phcoder@gmail.com>,
	Julien Grall <julien.grall@linaro.org>,
	Leif Lindholm <leif.lindholm@linaro.org>,
	Linaro UEFI Mailman List <linaro-uefi@lists.linaro.org>,
	Jon Masters <jcm@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 4/4] arm64: update the introduction of xen boot commands in docs/grub.texi
Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2016 08:10:33 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <56D28149.30907@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160227203341.GM31035@char.us.oracle.com>

27.02.2016 23:33, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk пишет:
> On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 07:15:52PM +0800, Fu Wei wrote:
>> Hi Andrei,
>>
>> On 26 February 2016 at 18:50, Andrei Borzenkov <arvidjaar@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 8:59 AM, Fu Wei <fu.wei@linaro.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>> +@subsection xen_module
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -@deffn Command xen_linux file [arguments]
>>>>>>>> -Load a dom0 kernel image for xen hypervisor at the booting process of xen.
>>>>>>>> +@deffn Command xen_module [--nounzip] file [arguments]
>>>>>>>> +Load a module for xen hypervisor at the booting process of xen.
>>>>>>>> The rest of the line is passed verbatim as the module command line.
>>>>>>>> +Each module will be identified by the order in which the modules are added.
>>>>>>>> +The 1st module: dom0 kernel image
>>>>>>>> +The 2nd module: dom0 ramdisk
>>>>>>>> +All subsequent modules: UNKNOW
>>>>>>>> @end deffn
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hmm ... from previous discussion I gathered that Xen can detect module
>>>>>>> type. What if there is no initrd for dom0? How can subsequent modules be
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now , Xen detect module type by the order. (at least on ARM64).
>>>>>> I think i386 is using Multiboot(2) protocol, so maybe this order is
>>>>>> nothing to do with i386.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Then we have obvious problem with your XSM patch (http://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/?43420) - XSM may land as the first module. That's actually something to solve on Xen side I think. It's just that so far we had just kernel and initrd, so that was non issue.
>>>>
>>>> Oh, did you mean Wei Liu's patch?
>>>>
>>>> I guess XSM may land as the third module (or the module after linux
>>>> kernel, if you don't have initrd)
>>>>
>>>> Yes, agree. (That's actually something to solve on Xen side)
>>>>
>>>> I guess xen can get xsm from a special initrd. so for now there is not
>>>> big problem on xsm.
>>>>
>>>> Please correct me if I misunderstand something. :-)
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>>>> Back to this patch, is that OK for you, or any suggestion?  Thanks !
>>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, as this is dedicated Xen loader we should document this mandatory
>>> order - first module must be kernel image, second module must be
>>> initrd. I do not think we need to mention possibility to load more
>>> than two modules until there is clear understanding how it can be done
>>> without initrd.
>>
>> Great thanks for your review, I have updated and sent the v3 patchset,
>> Hope I understood your suggestion correctly, Please check.  :-)
> 
> What if the initrd is catted to the kernel image (which you can
> do on x86)? And then the 1st module is your XSM?
> 

On x86 Xen can detect microcode and xsm modules; the first unknown
module after that is assumed to be initrd (dom0 kernel always must be
the very first module provided).

On arm there is no detection - module type is taken from FDT; if no
module type is provided, the first unknown module is assumed to be
kernel, the second - initrd.

See also http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/grub-devel/2016-02/msg00333.html

> Is this .. order dependency written somewhere in a document? In the
> Xen code-base that is?
> 


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  reply	other threads:[~2016-02-28  5:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-02-25  6:39 [PATCH v2 1/4] arm64: add "--nounzip" option support in xen_module command fu.wei
2016-02-25  6:39 ` [PATCH v2 2/4] * util/grub.d/20_linux_xen.in: Add xen_boot command support fu.wei
2016-02-25  6:39 ` [PATCH v2 3/4] i386, xen: Add xen_hypervisor and xen_module aliases for i386 fu.wei
2016-02-25  6:39 ` [PATCH v2 4/4] arm64: update the introduction of xen boot commands in docs/grub.texi fu.wei
2016-02-25 17:34   ` Andrei Borzenkov
2016-02-26  4:48     ` Fu Wei
2016-02-26  4:55       ` Fu Wei
2016-02-26  5:24       ` Andrei Borzenkov
2016-02-26  5:59         ` Fu Wei
2016-02-26 10:50           ` Andrei Borzenkov
2016-02-26 11:15             ` Fu Wei
2016-02-26 14:03               ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2016-02-27  2:43                 ` Fu Wei
2016-02-27 20:33               ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-02-28  5:10                 ` Andrei Borzenkov [this message]
2016-02-29 14:41                   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2016-03-01  4:02                     ` Andrei Borzenkov
2016-02-25 22:26   ` Doug Goldstein
2016-02-26  4:49     ` [Xen-devel] " Fu Wei

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