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From: Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>
To: Wei Liu <wei.liu2@citrix.com>, Ian Jackson <Ian.Jackson@eu.citrix.com>
Cc: Anthony PERARD <anthony.perard@citrix.com>,
	Xen-devel <xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org>,
	George Dunlap <george.dunlap@eu.citrix.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] libxl hotplug / unplug emulated devices
Date: Fri, 20 May 2016 17:45:53 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <573F3F41.8090101@citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160520164250.GC31272@citrix.com>

On 20/05/16 17:42, Wei Liu wrote:
> On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 05:38:44PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:
>> Wei Liu writes ("[RFC] libxl hotplug / unplug emulated devices"):
>>> Recently I got a report on xen-users@ about xl network-attach not
>>> working for HVM guest.
>>>
>>> I try to use
>>>   xl network-attach jessie-hvm 'bridge=xenbr0'
>>> and vif-bridge script complains that it can't add vifXX-emu to bridge.
>>>
>>> The underlying issue is that the vif spec provided defaults to
>>> emulated nic, but libxl only populates a pv nic but doesn't call out
>>> via QMP to QEMU to populate one. Note that this issue not only affects
>>> nic device but essentially all device types.
>> Is it really sensible to offer emulated nic hotplug ?  That'd be
>> presented to the guest as pci hotplug, I guess ?
> Suppose you have a Windows guest doesn't have PV driver? Or any other
> OSes that have PCI drivers with hotplug support but not Xen drivers?

On qemu-trad, none of the devices support hotplug, so the option
shouldn't be available in xl.

I believe qemu-upstream does offer hotplug devices, but it still has to
create empty PCIe slots at boot time to hotplug into later, along with
appropriate ACPI tables.


>
> For the second question, yes, more or less the same if you're talking
> about libxl side implementation. It's going to call some QMP commands.
>
>>> I also experimented with block device:
>>>   xl block-attach jessie-hvm 'phy:/dev/DATA/disk,hdb,w'
>>> and it succeed, only pv disk is populated though.
>> That's what I would have expected.
>>
>> Maybe the fix should be that xl network-attach should default hotplug
>> nics to pv only.
>>
> I certainly am fine with this.

+1.

~Andrew

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  reply	other threads:[~2016-05-20 16:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-05-20 16:34 [RFC] libxl hotplug / unplug emulated devices Wei Liu
2016-05-20 16:38 ` Ian Jackson
2016-05-20 16:42   ` Wei Liu
2016-05-20 16:45     ` Andrew Cooper [this message]
2016-05-20 16:49       ` Wei Liu
2016-05-20 17:45   ` Wei Liu
2016-05-20 17:58     ` Ian Jackson
2016-05-20 18:04       ` Wei Liu
2016-05-20 18:05         ` Ian Jackson
2016-05-20 18:05         ` Wei Liu
2016-05-23  9:32     ` George Dunlap
2016-05-23 10:28       ` Wei Liu
2016-05-23 10:45     ` Wei Liu

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