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From: Yu Zhang <yu.c.zhang@linux.intel.com>
To: Jan Beulich <JBeulich@suse.com>,
	George Dunlap <george.dunlap@citrix.com>
Cc: Kevin Tian <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
	George Dunlap <george.dunlap@eu.citrix.com>,
	Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
	Tim Deegan <tim@xen.org>,
	xen-devel@lists.xen.org, Paul Durrant <paul.durrant@citrix.com>,
	zhiyuan.lv@intel.com, JunNakajima <jun.nakajima@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 3/3] x86/ioreq server: Add HVMOP to map guest ram with p2m_ioreq_server to an ioreq server.
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2016 17:30:55 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <576271CF.8020202@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5761485002000078000F536B@prv-mh.provo.novell.com>



On 6/15/2016 6:21 PM, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>>> On 15.06.16 at 11:50, <george.dunlap@citrix.com> wrote:
>> On 14/06/16 14:31, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>>>>> On 14.06.16 at 15:13, <george.dunlap@citrix.com> wrote:
>>>> On 14/06/16 11:45, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>>>> Locking is somewhat strange here: You protect against the "set"
>>>>> counterpart altering state while you retrieve it, but you don't
>>>>> protect against the returned data becoming stale by the time
>>>>> the caller can consume it. Is that not a problem? (The most
>>>>> concerning case would seem to be a race of hvmop_set_mem_type()
>>>>> with de-registration of the type.)
>>>> How is that different than calling set_mem_type() first, and then
>>>> de-registering without first unmapping all the types?
>>> Didn't we all agree this is something that should be disallowed
>>> anyway (not that I've seen this implemented, i.e. just being
>>> reminded of it by your reply)?
>> I think I suggested it as a good idea, but Paul and Yang both thought it
>> wasn't necessary.  Do you think it should be a requirement?
> I think things shouldn't be left in a half-adjusted state.
>
>> We could have the de-registering operation fail in those circumstances;
>> but probably a more robust thing to do would be to have Xen go change
>> all the ioreq_server entires back to ram_rw (since if the caller just
>> ignores the failure, things are in an even worse state).
> If that's reasonable to do without undue delay (e.g. by using
> the usual "recalculate everything" forced to trickle down through
> the page table levels, then that's as good.

Thanks for your advices, Jan & George.

Previously in the 2nd version, I used p2m_change_entry_type_global() to 
reset the
outstanding p2m_ioreq_server entries back to p2m_ram_rw asynchronously after
the de-registration. But we realized later that this approach means we 
can not support
live migration. And to recalculate the whole p2m table forcefully when 
de-registration
happens means too much cost.

And further discussion with Paul was that we can leave the 
responsibility to reset p2m type
to the device model side, and even a device model fails to do so, the 
affected one will only
be the current VM, neither other VM nor hypervisor will get hurt.

I thought we have reached agreement in the review process of version 2, 
so I removed
this part from version 3.

>
>>>>>> +    uint32_t flags;     /* IN - types of accesses to be forwarded to the
>>>>>> +                           ioreq server. flags with 0 means to unmap the
>>>>>> +                           ioreq server */
>>>>>> +#define _HVMOP_IOREQ_MEM_ACCESS_READ 0
>>>>>> +#define HVMOP_IOREQ_MEM_ACCESS_READ \
>>>>>> +    (1u << _HVMOP_IOREQ_MEM_ACCESS_READ)
>>>>>> +
>>>>>> +#define _HVMOP_IOREQ_MEM_ACCESS_WRITE 1
>>>>>> +#define HVMOP_IOREQ_MEM_ACCESS_WRITE \
>>>>>> +    (1u << _HVMOP_IOREQ_MEM_ACCESS_WRITE)
>>>>> Is there any use for these _HVMOP_* values? The more that they
>>>>> violate standard C name space rules?
>>>> I assume he's just going along with what he sees in params.h.
>>>> "Violating standard C name space rules" by having #defines which start
>>>> with a single _ seems to be a well-established policy for Xen. :-)
>>> Sadly, and I'm trying to prevent matters becoming worse.
>>> Speaking of which - there are XEN_ prefixes missing here too.
>> Right, so in that case I think I would have said, "I realize that lots
>> of other places in the Xen interface use this sort of template for
>> flags, but I think it's a bad idea and I'm trying to stop it expanding.
>>   Is there any actual need to have the bit numbers defined separately?
>> If not, please just define each flag as (1u << 0), &c."
> Actually my coding style related comment wasn't for these two
> stage definitions - for those I simply questioned whether they're
> needed. My style complaint was for the <underscore><uppercase>
> name pattern (which would simply be avoided by not having the
> individual bit number #define-s).
>
>> I think you've tripped over "changing coding styles" in unfamiliar code
>> before too, so you know how frustrating it is to try to follow the
>> existing coding style only to be told that you did it wrong. :-)
> Agreed, you caught me on this one. Albeit with the slight
> difference that in the public interface we can't as easily correct
> old mistakes to aid people who simply clone surrounding code
> when adding new bits (the possibility of adding #ifdef-ery doesn't
> seem very attractive to me there, unless we got reports of actual
> name space collisions).
>

Hah, I guess these 2 #defines are just cloned from similar ones, and I 
did not expected
they would receive so much comments. Anyway, I admire your preciseness 
and thanks
for pointing this out. :)

Since the bit number #defines have no special meaning, I'd like to just 
define the flags
directly:

#define HVMOP_IOREQ_MEM_ACCESS_READ (1u << 0)
#define HVMOP_IOREQ_MEM_ACCESS_WRITE (1u << 1)


B.R.
Yu

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-06-16  9:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-05-19  9:05 [PATCH v4 0/3] x86/ioreq server: Introduce HVMMEM_ioreq_server mem type Yu Zhang
2016-05-19  9:05 ` [PATCH v4 1/3] x86/ioreq server: Rename p2m_mmio_write_dm to p2m_ioreq_server Yu Zhang
2016-06-14 10:04   ` Jan Beulich
2016-06-14 13:14     ` George Dunlap
2016-06-15 10:51     ` Yu Zhang
2016-05-19  9:05 ` [PATCH v4 2/3] x86/ioreq server: Add new functions to get/set memory types Yu Zhang
2016-05-19  9:05 ` [PATCH v4 3/3] x86/ioreq server: Add HVMOP to map guest ram with p2m_ioreq_server to an ioreq server Yu Zhang
2016-06-14 10:45   ` Jan Beulich
2016-06-14 13:13     ` George Dunlap
2016-06-14 13:31       ` Jan Beulich
2016-06-15  9:50         ` George Dunlap
2016-06-15 10:21           ` Jan Beulich
2016-06-15 11:28             ` George Dunlap
2016-06-16  9:30             ` Yu Zhang [this message]
2016-06-16  9:55               ` Jan Beulich
2016-06-17 10:17                 ` George Dunlap
2016-06-20  9:03                   ` Yu Zhang
2016-06-20 10:10                     ` George Dunlap
2016-06-20 10:25                       ` Jan Beulich
2016-06-20 10:32                         ` George Dunlap
2016-06-20 10:55                           ` Jan Beulich
2016-06-20 11:28                             ` Yu Zhang
2016-06-20 13:13                               ` George Dunlap
2016-06-21  7:42                                 ` Yu Zhang
2016-06-20 10:30                       ` Yu Zhang
2016-06-20 10:43                         ` George Dunlap
2016-06-20 10:45                         ` Jan Beulich
2016-06-20 11:06                           ` Yu Zhang
2016-06-20 11:20                             ` Jan Beulich
2016-06-20 12:06                               ` Yu Zhang
2016-06-20 13:38                                 ` Jan Beulich
2016-06-21  7:45                                   ` Yu Zhang
2016-06-21  8:22                                     ` Jan Beulich
2016-06-21  9:16                                       ` Yu Zhang
2016-06-21  9:47                                         ` Jan Beulich
2016-06-21 10:00                                           ` Yu Zhang
2016-06-21 14:38                                           ` George Dunlap
2016-06-22  6:39                                             ` Jan Beulich
2016-06-22  8:38                                               ` Yu Zhang
2016-06-22  9:11                                                 ` Jan Beulich
2016-06-22  9:16                                               ` George Dunlap
2016-06-22  9:29                                                 ` Jan Beulich
2016-06-22  9:47                                                   ` George Dunlap
2016-06-22 10:07                                                     ` Yu Zhang
2016-06-22 11:33                                                       ` George Dunlap
2016-06-23  7:37                                                         ` Yu Zhang
2016-06-23 10:33                                                           ` George Dunlap
2016-06-24  4:16                                                             ` Yu Zhang
2016-06-24  6:12                                                               ` Jan Beulich
2016-06-24  7:12                                                                 ` Yu Zhang
2016-06-24  8:01                                                                   ` Jan Beulich
2016-06-24  9:57                                                                     ` Yu Zhang
2016-06-24 10:27                                                                       ` Jan Beulich
2016-06-22 10:10                                                     ` Jan Beulich
2016-06-22 10:15                                                       ` George Dunlap
2016-06-22 11:50                                                         ` Jan Beulich
2016-06-15 10:52     ` Yu Zhang
2016-06-15 12:26       ` Jan Beulich
2016-06-16  9:32         ` Yu Zhang
2016-06-16 10:02           ` Jan Beulich
2016-06-16 11:18             ` Yu Zhang
2016-06-16 12:43               ` Jan Beulich
2016-06-20  9:05             ` Yu Zhang
2016-06-14 13:14   ` George Dunlap
2016-05-27  7:52 ` [PATCH v4 0/3] x86/ioreq server: Introduce HVMMEM_ioreq_server mem type Zhang, Yu C
2016-05-27 10:00   ` Jan Beulich
2016-05-27  9:51     ` Zhang, Yu C
2016-05-27 10:02     ` George Dunlap

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