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From: George Dunlap <george.dunlap@citrix.com>
To: Jan Beulich <JBeulich@suse.com>, Roger Pau Monne <roger.pau@citrix.com>
Cc: Stefano Stabellini <sstabellini@kernel.org>,
	Wei Liu <wei.liu2@citrix.com>,
	George Dunlap <George.Dunlap@eu.citrix.com>,
	Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
	Ian Jackson <ian.jackson@eu.citrix.com>, Tim Deegan <tim@xen.org>,
	xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org,
	Boris Ostrovsky <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH for-4.8] docs: document ACPI usage in PVHv2 guests
Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2016 16:06:08 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6676f973-ad9f-448d-bc05-f098530ae3be@citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <581B6C1B020000780011C088@prv-mh.provo.novell.com>

On 03/11/16 15:55, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>>> On 03.11.16 at 16:38, <roger.pau@citrix.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, Nov 03, 2016 at 07:06:14AM -0600, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>>>>> On 03.11.16 at 13:19, <roger.pau@citrix.com> wrote:
>>>> --- a/docs/misc/hvmlite.markdown
>>>> +++ b/docs/misc/hvmlite.markdown
>>>> @@ -64,3 +64,14 @@ The following VCPU hypercalls can be used in order to 
>> bring up secondary vCPUs:
>>>>   * `VCPUOP_down` is used to bring down a vCPU.
>>>>  
>>>>   * `VCPUOP_is_up` is used to scan the number of available vCPUs.
>>>> +
>>>> +## Hardware description ##
>>>> +
>>>> +PVHv2 guests that have access to hardware (either emulated or real) will also
>>>> +have ACPI tables with the description of the hardware that's available to the
>>>> +guest. This applies to both privileged and unprivileged guests. A hint of
>>>> +the position of the RSDP in memory (if present) can be fetched from the start
>>>> +info structure that's passed at boot time (field rsdp_paddr).
>>>
>>> Why "hint"?
>>
>> Hm, maybe that's not the best word? (my English is clearly lacking 
>> sometimes). What I meant is that this is a pointer to the RSDP. I've 
>> probably used "hint" here because in FreeBSD the position of the RSDP is 
>> passed from the loader to the kernel as "hint.acpi.0.rsdp". Let me know if 
>> you would like me to rephrase this.
> 
> I indeed think this should be re-worded. After all that start info field
> is iirc the _only_ way to get the pointer.

In plain English, a "hint" is a bit of information that is meant to help
you reach the answer to a puzzle more quickly; but without which you
should (in theory) be able to solve it yourself.  If a student was
struggling with a mathematical proof, the teacher might say something
like, "Here's a hint: x is never negative." (Or whatever.)  Or if you
had hidden something for someone to find, you might say, "Here's a hint:
It's near something blue."

But if you wanted to come visit me, I couldn't say, "Here's a hint: My
address is 123 Easy St", because I certainly wasn't expecting you to
figure out what my address was by doing a brute-force search. :-)

 -George

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      parent reply	other threads:[~2016-11-03 16:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-11-03 12:19 [PATCH for-4.8] docs: document ACPI usage in PVHv2 guests Roger Pau Monne
2016-11-03 12:22 ` Andrew Cooper
2016-11-03 12:34   ` Wei Liu
2016-11-03 13:06 ` Jan Beulich
2016-11-03 15:38   ` Roger Pau Monne
2016-11-03 15:55     ` Jan Beulich
2016-11-03 16:00       ` George Dunlap
2016-11-03 16:06       ` George Dunlap [this message]

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