From: David <admin@dmarkey.com>
To: "Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>
Cc: "xen-devel@lists.xensource.com" <xen-devel@lists.xensource.com>,
Vincent Hanquez <vincent.hanquez@eu.citrix.com>,
Thiago Camargo Martins Cordeiro <thiagocmartinsc@gmail.com>,
Stefano Stabellini <Stefano.Stabellini@eu.citrix.com>
Subject: Re: Porting SPICE to Xen
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2010 00:46:50 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <6894a6471001071646g558957d4u43e1c066c34e63b3@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100107111620.GG16032@redhat.com>
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HVM would be a good start. It would be a good way for Xen to break into the
VDI space easily, unless there's something I haven't come across?
As far as I understand, if the QXL driver isn't installed, it will fall back
to standard VGA. The spice client will still be able to connect, but it just
wont be accelerated.
The spice protocol doesn't just handle graphics, but sound and USB is in the
pipeline.
The guest QXL driver is available for windows anyway, so that will be HVM
only, I'm not sure about the status of the X guest driver.
2010/1/7 Daniel P. Berrange <berrange@redhat.com>
> On Thu, Jan 07, 2010 at 11:01:39AM +0000, Vincent Hanquez wrote:
> > On 01/07/2010 04:33 AM, Thiago Camargo Martins Cordeiro wrote:
> > >If this happen, it will work with paravirtualized domUs too? Or maybe
> > >it is only for HVM domains?!
> > SPICE is 2 differents parts, the part that expose the PCI device to the
> > guest and "replace" the graphic card IIRC, and the actual remote desktop
> > protocol.
>
> That's not entirely accurate terminology. SPICE is the remote desktop
> protocol & client/server side libraries. When SPICE is integrated into
> QEMU, it takes advantage of a new graphics card called "QXL", and the
> corresponding guest OS drivers. IIUC, currently SPICE can't use the
> Cirrus card, and the QXL card doesn't work with VNC, but those are both
> just artifacts of the current integration of SPICE with QEMU, not problems
> of SPICE or QXL themselves, which from an architectural POV are both
> separate things.
>
> > at the moment the 2 are fairly intertwined, so it would only work with
> > HVM domains [1], but depending on how the things get de-intertwined
> > (which is something qemu people want), it might be possible to have it
> > on PV. I wouldn't hold my breath on PV domain though.
>
> It depends what you'd want from PV domain integration. I expect you could
> make SPICE "work" with the PVFB, but it probably wouldn't offer much of a
> performance benefit over VNC, because it'll be limited to dumb framebuffer
> mode. To take full advantage of SPICE requries a graphics card supporting
> the various advanced operations, which is what QXL supplies. Enhancing
> PVFB to support some of the advanced QXL features would be where the
> significant work arrives
>
> Daniel
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Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-12-28 16:50 Porting SPICE to Xen David
2010-01-06 12:25 ` Stefano Stabellini
2010-01-07 4:33 ` Thiago Camargo Martins Cordeiro
2010-01-07 11:01 ` Vincent Hanquez
2010-01-07 11:16 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-01-08 0:46 ` David [this message]
2010-01-11 11:27 ` Vincent Hanquez
2010-01-11 11:57 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-01-11 11:57 ` David
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-11-30 9:40 Porting Spice " Yanjun Wu
2010-11-30 10:36 ` Stefano Stabellini
2011-04-07 10:54 Porting spice to xen ZhouPeng
2011-04-07 11:39 ` Stefano Stabellini
2011-04-08 2:13 ` ZhouPeng
2011-04-08 12:23 ` Stefano Stabellini
2011-04-09 10:27 ` ZhouPeng
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