From: Dan Magenheimer <dan.magenheimer@oracle.com>
To: Keir Fraser <keir.xen@gmail.com>,
Olivier Hanesse <olivier.hanesse@gmail.com>,
Jan Beulich <JBeulich@novell.com>
Cc: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>,
xen-devel@lists.xensource.com, Keir Fraser <keir@xen.org>,
Xen Users <xen-users@lists.xensource.com>,
Mark Adams <mark@campbell-lange.net>
Subject: RE: [Xen-devel] Xen 4 TSC problems
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 09:43:22 -0800 (PST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <68c41dd8-9195-41b0-83d7-9242b8eff809@default> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <C98C2113.13CA9%keir.xen@gmail.com>
Just a wild guess, but this in Olivier's posted output:
(XEN) Platform timer appears to have unexpectedly wrapped 10 or more times.
and the fact that a 32-bit HPET wrap is ~300 seconds and, with the
"10 or more times", 10 * 300 seconds is 3000 seconds, might be a clue
(or a complete red herring, but I thought it worth mentioning).
Mark and Olivier, it would be interesting to know if you are
using the same processor/system.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Keir Fraser [mailto:keir.xen@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 7:52 AM
> To: Olivier Hanesse; Jan Beulich
> Cc: Mark Adams; Jeremy Fitzhardinge; xen-devel@lists.xensource.com; Xen
> Users; Dan Magenheimer; Keir Fraser
> Subject: Re: [Xen-devel] Xen 4 TSC problems
>
> On 24/02/2011 14:20, "Olivier Hanesse" <olivier.hanesse@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Both dom0 and domUs are affected by this" jump".
> >
> > I expect to see something like "TSC marked as reliable, warp = 0".
> > I got this on newer hardware with same config/distros.
>
> It depends on the CPU itself, older CPUs do not have the super-stable
> TSC
> features. But that should never cause a massive 3000s time jump.
>
> > Is there a way to measure if it is a TSC warp ? to point out a cpu
> tsc issue ?
>
> The TSC warps or out-of-sync issues that we could reasonably expect
> would be
> on the order of microseconds. A 3000s warp is something else entirely.
> Xen
> is very confused and/or some TSC or platform timer has jumped a long
> way
> (indicating a hardware/firmware issue).
>
> -- Keir
>
> >
> > 2011/2/24 Jan Beulich <JBeulich@novell.com>
> >>>>> On 24.02.11 at 12:57, Olivier Hanesse <olivier.hanesse@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>> I tried to turn off cstates with max_cstate=0 without success
> (still "not
> >>> reliable").
> >>>
> >>> With cpuidle=0, I also got :
> >>>
> >>> (XEN) TSC has constant rate, deep Cstates possible, so not
> reliable,
> >>> warp=3022 (count=1)
> >>
> >> This message by itself isn't telling much I believe.
> >>
> >>> xm info | grep command
> >>> xen_commandline : dom0_mem=512M cpuidle=0 loglvl=all
> guest_loglvl=all
> >>> dom0_max_vcpus=1 dom0_vcpus_pin console=vga,com1 com1=19200,8n1
> >>>
> >>> Keir :
> >>>
> >>> Using clocksource=pit :
> >>>
> >>> (XEN) Platform timer is 1.193MHz PIT
> >>>
> >>> I also got :
> >>>
> >>> (XEN) TSC has constant rate, deep Cstates possible, so not
> reliable,
> >>> warp=3262 (count=2)
> >>
> >> The question is whether any of this eliminates the time jumps seen
> >> by your DomU-s (from your past mails I wasn't actually sure whether
> >> Dom0 also experienced this problem, albeit it would be odd if it
> didn't).
> >>
> >> Jan
> >>
> >> Jan
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-02-24 17:43 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 81+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-02-23 10:49 Xen 4 TSC problems Olivier Hanesse
2011-02-23 16:16 ` [Xen-devel] " Dan Magenheimer
2011-02-23 17:19 ` Keir Fraser
2011-02-23 19:04 ` Olivier Hanesse
2011-02-24 7:16 ` Keir Fraser
2011-02-24 9:59 ` Olivier Hanesse
2011-02-24 10:59 ` Jan Beulich
2011-02-24 11:30 ` [Xen-devel] " Keir Fraser
2011-02-24 11:57 ` Olivier Hanesse
2011-02-24 12:37 ` Jan Beulich
2011-02-24 14:20 ` Olivier Hanesse
2011-02-24 14:52 ` [Xen-devel] " Keir Fraser
2011-02-24 17:43 ` Dan Magenheimer [this message]
2011-02-24 17:58 ` Olivier Hanesse
2011-02-24 19:01 ` [Xen-devel] " Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2011-02-28 14:37 ` Olivier Hanesse
2011-02-28 15:00 ` Keir Fraser
2011-02-28 15:14 ` [Xen-devel] " Dan Magenheimer
2011-02-28 15:23 ` Olivier Hanesse
2011-02-28 15:30 ` Dan Magenheimer
2011-02-28 15:54 ` Olivier Hanesse
2011-04-15 7:51 ` andre.arnold
2011-04-15 16:31 ` Olivier Hanesse
2012-09-27 15:54 ` [Xen-devel] " Mauro
2012-09-27 19:27 ` [Xen-users] " Dan Magenheimer
2012-09-27 21:28 ` Olivier Hanesse
2012-09-27 21:42 ` [Xen-devel] " Mauro
2012-09-29 8:08 ` [Xen-users] " Olivier Hanesse
2012-09-29 9:41 ` [Xen-devel] " Mauro
2012-09-29 12:19 ` Mauro
2012-09-30 15:13 ` [Xen-users] " Pasi Kärkkäinen
2012-09-30 19:23 ` [Xen-devel] " Mauro
2012-09-30 20:19 ` Mauro
2012-10-15 7:39 ` [Xen-users] " Olivier Hanesse
2012-10-15 8:05 ` Philippe.Simonet
2012-10-15 9:39 ` Mauro
2012-10-15 10:32 ` Jan Beulich
2012-10-15 11:24 ` [Xen-devel] " Mauro
2012-10-15 12:49 ` [Xen-users] " Jan Beulich
2012-10-15 14:25 ` Mauro
2012-10-17 16:15 ` Keir Fraser
2012-10-18 7:40 ` Ian Campbell
2012-10-18 7:55 ` Keir Fraser
2012-10-18 8:33 ` Ian Campbell
2012-10-18 8:56 ` [Xen-devel] " Mauro
2012-10-18 9:36 ` [Xen-users] " Ian Campbell
2012-10-18 13:45 ` Philippe.Simonet
2012-10-18 16:43 ` Keir Fraser
2012-10-21 20:52 ` [Xen-devel] " Mauro
2012-10-22 6:54 ` [Xen-users] " Jan Beulich
2012-10-22 9:17 ` [Xen-devel] " Mauro
2012-10-22 9:27 ` [Xen-users] " Jan Beulich
2012-10-22 10:40 ` [Xen-devel] " Mauro
2012-10-22 12:06 ` [Xen-users] " Jan Beulich
2012-10-23 7:19 ` Mauro
[not found] ` <CAE17a0VU3H8UmUWZv1+t98ME8LFgCZAWWBC1nhzM=ecbu6_GaQ@mail.gmail.com>
2012-10-23 7:58 ` Jan Beulich
2012-10-23 8:40 ` Mauro
2012-10-23 8:50 ` Jan Beulich
2012-10-23 11:50 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-10-23 14:07 ` Mauro
2012-10-23 14:43 ` Jan Beulich
2012-10-23 14:46 ` Mauro
2012-10-23 15:34 ` Mauro
2012-10-23 15:49 ` Jan Beulich
2012-10-01 11:39 ` Zary Matej
2011-02-28 15:39 ` [Xen-devel] " Keir Fraser
2012-09-29 15:13 ` Mauro
2011-09-13 7:16 ` Philippe Simonet
2011-09-15 8:23 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2011-09-15 8:24 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2011-09-15 16:24 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2011-09-16 6:03 ` Philippe.Simonet
2011-09-16 22:40 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2011-09-19 5:45 ` Philippe Simonet
2011-09-15 10:36 ` George Dunlap
2011-09-15 18:38 ` Dan Magenheimer
2011-09-19 10:39 ` George Dunlap
2011-09-22 12:07 ` Jan Beulich
2011-09-30 6:33 ` Philippe.Simonet
2011-09-30 9:36 ` tommics
2011-09-30 17:16 ` Dan Magenheimer
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