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From: Paul Durrant <Paul.Durrant@citrix.com>
To: Kevin Tian <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
	"xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org" <xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org>
Cc: Stefano Stabellini <sstabellini@kernel.org>,
	Wei Liu <wei.liu2@citrix.com>,
	Andrew Cooper <Andrew.Cooper3@citrix.com>,
	"Tim (Xen.org)" <tim@xen.org>,
	George Dunlap <George.Dunlap@citrix.com>,
	Jan Beulich <jbeulich@suse.com>,
	Ian Jackson <Ian.Jackson@citrix.com>,
	Daniel De Graaf <dgdegra@tycho.nsa.gov>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/7] public / x86: introduce __HYPERCALL_iommu_op
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2018 09:41:09 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6c5e1abad397407e8dbed6e3945c68be@AMSPEX02CL03.citrite.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AADFC41AFE54684AB9EE6CBC0274A5D19101540B@SHSMSX101.ccr.corp.intel.com>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tian, Kevin [mailto:kevin.tian@intel.com]
> Sent: 23 February 2018 05:17
> To: Paul Durrant <Paul.Durrant@citrix.com>; xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org
> Cc: Stefano Stabellini <sstabellini@kernel.org>; Wei Liu
> <wei.liu2@citrix.com>; George Dunlap <George.Dunlap@citrix.com>;
> Andrew Cooper <Andrew.Cooper3@citrix.com>; Ian Jackson
> <Ian.Jackson@citrix.com>; Tim (Xen.org) <tim@xen.org>; Jan Beulich
> <jbeulich@suse.com>; Daniel De Graaf <dgdegra@tycho.nsa.gov>
> Subject: RE: [Xen-devel] [PATCH 5/7] public / x86: introduce
> __HYPERCALL_iommu_op
> 
> > From: Paul Durrant [mailto:Paul.Durrant@citrix.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 5:23 PM
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Tian, Kevin [mailto:kevin.tian@intel.com]
> > > Sent: 13 February 2018 06:43
> > > To: Paul Durrant <Paul.Durrant@citrix.com>; xen-
> > devel@lists.xenproject.org
> > > Cc: Stefano Stabellini <sstabellini@kernel.org>; Wei Liu
> > > <wei.liu2@citrix.com>; George Dunlap <George.Dunlap@citrix.com>;
> > > Andrew Cooper <Andrew.Cooper3@citrix.com>; Ian Jackson
> > > <Ian.Jackson@citrix.com>; Tim (Xen.org) <tim@xen.org>; Jan Beulich
> > > <jbeulich@suse.com>; Daniel De Graaf <dgdegra@tycho.nsa.gov>
> > > Subject: RE: [Xen-devel] [PATCH 5/7] public / x86: introduce
> > > __HYPERCALL_iommu_op
> > >
> > > > From: Paul Durrant
> > > > Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 6:47 PM
> > > >
> > > > This patch introduces the boilerplate for a new hypercall to allow a
> > > > domain to control IOMMU mappings for its own pages.
> > > > Whilst there is duplication of code between the native and compat
> > entry
> > > > points which appears ripe for some form of combination, I think it is
> > > > better to maintain the separation as-is because the compat entry point
> > > > will necessarily gain complexity in subsequent patches.
> > > >
> > > > NOTE: This hypercall is only implemented for x86 and is currently
> > > >       restricted by XSM to dom0 since it could be used to cause IOMMU
> > > >       faults which may bring down a host.
> > > >
> > > > Signed-off-by: Paul Durrant <paul.durrant@citrix.com>
> > > [...]
> > > > +
> > > > +
> > > > +static bool can_control_iommu(void)
> > > > +{
> > > > +    struct domain *currd = current->domain;
> > > > +
> > > > +    /*
> > > > +     * IOMMU mappings cannot be manipulated if:
> > > > +     * - the IOMMU is not enabled or,
> > > > +     * - the IOMMU is passed through or,
> > > > +     * - shared EPT configured or,
> > > > +     * - Xen is maintaining an identity map.
> > >
> > > "for dom0"
> > >
> > > > +     */
> > > > +    if ( !iommu_enabled || iommu_passthrough ||
> > > > +         iommu_use_hap_pt(currd) || need_iommu(currd) )
> > >
> > > I guess it's clearer to directly check iommu_dom0_strict here
> >
> > Well, the problem with that is that it totally ties this interface to dom0.
> > Whilst, in practice, that is the case at the moment (because of the xsm
> > check) I do want to leave the potential to allow other PV domains to control
> > their IOMMU mappings, if that make sense in future.
> >
> 
> first it's inconsistent from the comments - "Xen is maintaining
> an identity map" which only applies to dom0.

That's not true. If I assign a PCI device to an HVM domain, for instance, then need_iommu() is true for that domain and indeed Xen maintains a 1:1 BFN:GFN map for that domain.

> 
> second I'm afraid !need_iommu is not an accurate condition to represent
> PV domain. what about iommu also enabled for future PV domains?
> 

I don't quite follow... need_iommu is a per-domain flag, set for dom0 when in strict mode, set for others when passing through a device. Either way, if Xen is maintaining the IOMMU pagetables then it is clearly unsafe for the domain to also be messing with them.

  Cheers,

    Paul

> Thanks
> Kevin
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  reply	other threads:[~2018-02-23  9:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-02-12 10:47 [PATCH 0/7] paravirtual IOMMU interface Paul Durrant
2018-02-12 10:47 ` [PATCH 1/7] iommu: introduce the concept of BFN Paul Durrant
2018-03-15 13:39   ` Jan Beulich
2018-03-16 10:31     ` Paul Durrant
2018-03-16 10:39       ` Jan Beulich
2018-02-12 10:47 ` [PATCH 2/7] iommu: make use of type-safe BFN and MFN in exported functions Paul Durrant
2018-03-15 15:44   ` Jan Beulich
2018-03-16 10:26     ` Paul Durrant
2018-07-10 14:29     ` George Dunlap
2018-07-10 14:34       ` Jan Beulich
2018-07-10 14:37         ` Andrew Cooper
2018-07-10 14:58         ` George Dunlap
2018-07-10 15:19           ` Jan Beulich
2018-02-12 10:47 ` [PATCH 3/7] iommu: push use of type-safe BFN and MFN into iommu_ops Paul Durrant
2018-03-15 16:15   ` Jan Beulich
2018-03-16 10:22     ` Paul Durrant
2018-02-12 10:47 ` [PATCH 4/7] vtd: add lookup_page method to iommu_ops Paul Durrant
2018-03-15 16:54   ` Jan Beulich
2018-03-16 10:19     ` Paul Durrant
2018-03-16 10:28       ` Jan Beulich
2018-03-16 10:41         ` Paul Durrant
2018-02-12 10:47 ` [PATCH 5/7] public / x86: introduce __HYPERCALL_iommu_op Paul Durrant
2018-02-13  6:43   ` Tian, Kevin
2018-02-13  9:22     ` Paul Durrant
2018-02-23  5:17       ` Tian, Kevin
2018-02-23  9:41         ` Paul Durrant [this message]
2018-02-24  2:57           ` Tian, Kevin
2018-02-26  9:57             ` Paul Durrant
2018-02-26 11:55               ` Tian, Kevin
2018-02-27  5:05               ` Tian, Kevin
2018-02-27  9:32                 ` Paul Durrant
2018-02-28  2:53                   ` Tian, Kevin
2018-02-28  8:55                     ` Paul Durrant
2018-03-16 12:25   ` Jan Beulich
2018-06-07 11:42     ` Paul Durrant
2018-06-07 13:21       ` Jan Beulich
2018-06-07 13:45         ` George Dunlap
2018-06-07 14:06           ` Paul Durrant
2018-06-07 14:21             ` Ian Jackson
2018-06-07 15:21               ` Paul Durrant
2018-06-07 15:41                 ` Jan Beulich
2018-02-12 10:47 ` [PATCH 6/7] x86: add iommu_op to query reserved ranges Paul Durrant
2018-02-13  6:51   ` Tian, Kevin
2018-02-13  9:25     ` Paul Durrant
2018-02-23  5:23       ` Tian, Kevin
2018-02-23  9:02         ` Jan Beulich
2018-03-19 14:10   ` Jan Beulich
2018-03-19 15:13     ` Paul Durrant
2018-03-19 16:30       ` Jan Beulich
2018-03-19 15:13   ` Jan Beulich
2018-03-19 15:36     ` Paul Durrant
2018-03-19 16:31       ` Jan Beulich
2018-02-12 10:47 ` [PATCH 7/7] x86: add iommu_ops to map and unmap pages, and also to flush the IOTLB Paul Durrant
2018-02-13  6:55   ` Tian, Kevin
2018-02-13  9:55     ` Paul Durrant
2018-02-23  5:35       ` Tian, Kevin
2018-02-23  9:35         ` Paul Durrant
2018-02-24  3:01           ` Tian, Kevin
2018-02-26  9:38             ` Paul Durrant
2018-03-19 15:11   ` Jan Beulich
2018-03-19 15:34     ` Paul Durrant
2018-03-19 16:49       ` Jan Beulich
2018-03-19 16:57         ` Paul Durrant
2018-03-20  8:11           ` Jan Beulich
2018-03-20  9:32             ` Paul Durrant
2018-03-20  9:49               ` Jan Beulich
2018-02-13  6:21 ` [PATCH 0/7] paravirtual IOMMU interface Tian, Kevin
2018-02-13  9:18   ` Paul Durrant

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