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From: Paul Durrant <Paul.Durrant@citrix.com>
To: 'Jan Beulich' <JBeulich@suse.com>
Cc: xen-devel <xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org>,
	Kevin Tian <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
	George Dunlap <George.Dunlap@citrix.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 08/14] vtd: add lookup_page method to iommu_ops
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2018 09:15:56 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <82baab81955d48ae9a2c50b964c2ca34@AMSPEX02CL03.citrite.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5B98D89A02000078001E7B14@prv1-mh.provo.novell.com>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jan Beulich [mailto:JBeulich@suse.com]
> Sent: 12 September 2018 10:13
> To: Paul Durrant <Paul.Durrant@citrix.com>
> Cc: George Dunlap <George.Dunlap@citrix.com>; Kevin Tian
> <kevin.tian@intel.com>; xen-devel <xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org>
> Subject: RE: [PATCH v6 08/14] vtd: add lookup_page method to iommu_ops
> 
> >>> On 12.09.18 at 11:05, <Paul.Durrant@citrix.com> wrote:
> >> From: Jan Beulich [mailto:JBeulich@suse.com]
> >> Sent: 12 September 2018 10:03
> >>
> >> A HVM guest using the PV IOMMU is quite fine, but it shouldn't talk to
> >> it in terms of MFNs.
> >>
> >
> > Well, it has to talk MFNs at some level, surely? The output of the IOMMU is
> > not subject to EPT/NPT, right?
> 
> Yes to the second question, but no to the first: The GFN -> MFN translation
> should still be done inside Xen in the HVM case, imo (in the course of
> manufacturing the PTE).

Indeed. This function is very much internal to Xen (it's simply an abstraction on top of a vendor implementation), so why should it not work in terms of MFNs? There's no hypercall that allows this to be blindly called by an HVM guest.

  Paul

> 
> Jan
> 


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Thread overview: 111+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-08-23  9:46 [PATCH v6 00/14] paravirtual IOMMU interface Paul Durrant
2018-08-23  9:46 ` [PATCH v6 01/14] iommu: introduce the concept of BFN Paul Durrant
2018-08-30 15:59   ` Jan Beulich
2018-09-03  8:23     ` Paul Durrant
2018-09-03 11:46       ` Jan Beulich
2018-09-04  6:48         ` Tian, Kevin
2018-09-04  8:32           ` Jan Beulich
2018-09-04  8:37             ` Tian, Kevin
2018-09-04  8:47               ` Jan Beulich
2018-09-04  8:49                 ` Paul Durrant
2018-09-04  9:08                   ` Jan Beulich
2018-09-05  0:42                     ` Tian, Kevin
2018-09-05  6:48                       ` Jan Beulich
2018-09-05  6:56                         ` Tian, Kevin
2018-09-05  7:11                           ` Jan Beulich
2018-09-05  9:13                             ` Paul Durrant
2018-09-05  9:38                               ` Jan Beulich
2018-09-06 10:36                                 ` Paul Durrant
2018-09-06 13:13                                   ` Jan Beulich
2018-09-06 14:54                                     ` Paul Durrant
2018-09-07  1:47                                       ` Tian, Kevin
2018-09-07  6:24                                         ` Jan Beulich
2018-09-07  8:13                                           ` Paul Durrant
2018-09-07  8:16                                             ` Tian, Kevin
2018-09-07  8:25                                               ` Paul Durrant
2018-08-23  9:46 ` [PATCH v6 02/14] iommu: make use of type-safe BFN and MFN in exported functions Paul Durrant
2018-09-04 10:29   ` Jan Beulich
2018-08-23  9:47 ` [PATCH v6 03/14] iommu: push use of type-safe BFN and MFN into iommu_ops Paul Durrant
2018-09-04 10:32   ` Jan Beulich
2018-08-23  9:47 ` [PATCH v6 04/14] iommu: don't domain_crash() inside iommu_map/unmap_page() Paul Durrant
2018-09-04 10:38   ` Jan Beulich
2018-09-04 10:39     ` Paul Durrant
2018-08-23  9:47 ` [PATCH v6 05/14] public / x86: introduce __HYPERCALL_iommu_op Paul Durrant
2018-09-04 11:50   ` Jan Beulich
2018-09-04 12:23     ` Paul Durrant
2018-09-04 12:55       ` Jan Beulich
2018-09-04 13:17         ` Paul Durrant
2018-09-07 10:52   ` Jan Beulich
2018-08-23  9:47 ` [PATCH v6 06/14] iommu: track reserved ranges using a rangeset Paul Durrant
2018-09-07 10:40   ` Jan Beulich
2018-09-11  9:28     ` Paul Durrant
2018-08-23  9:47 ` [PATCH v6 07/14] x86: add iommu_op to query reserved ranges Paul Durrant
2018-09-07 11:01   ` Jan Beulich
2018-09-11  9:34     ` Paul Durrant
2018-09-11  9:43       ` Jan Beulich
2018-09-13  6:11     ` Tian, Kevin
2018-08-23  9:47 ` [PATCH v6 08/14] vtd: add lookup_page method to iommu_ops Paul Durrant
2018-09-07 11:11   ` Jan Beulich
2018-09-07 12:36     ` Paul Durrant
2018-09-07 14:56       ` Jan Beulich
2018-09-07 15:24         ` Paul Durrant
2018-09-07 15:52           ` Jan Beulich
2018-09-12  8:31     ` Paul Durrant
2018-09-12  8:43       ` Jan Beulich
2018-09-12  8:45         ` Paul Durrant
2018-09-12  8:51           ` Paul Durrant
2018-09-12  8:53             ` Paul Durrant
2018-09-12  9:03               ` Jan Beulich
2018-09-12  9:05                 ` Paul Durrant
2018-09-12  9:12                   ` Jan Beulich
2018-09-12  9:15                     ` Paul Durrant [this message]
2018-09-12  9:21                       ` Jan Beulich
2018-09-12  9:30                         ` Paul Durrant
2018-09-12 10:07                           ` Jan Beulich
2018-09-12 10:09                             ` Paul Durrant
2018-09-12 12:15                               ` Jan Beulich
2018-09-12 12:22                                 ` Paul Durrant
2018-09-12 12:39                                   ` Jan Beulich
2018-09-12 12:53                                     ` Paul Durrant
2018-09-12 13:19                                       ` Jan Beulich
2018-09-12 13:25                                         ` Paul Durrant
2018-09-12 13:39                                           ` Jan Beulich
2018-09-12 13:43                                             ` Paul Durrant
2018-09-12  8:59           ` Jan Beulich
2018-08-23  9:47 ` [PATCH v6 09/14] mm / iommu: include need_iommu() test in iommu_use_hap_pt() Paul Durrant
2018-09-07 11:20   ` Jan Beulich
2018-09-11  9:39     ` Paul Durrant
2018-09-11  9:47       ` Jan Beulich
2018-09-13  6:23         ` Tian, Kevin
2018-09-13  8:34           ` Paul Durrant
2018-08-23  9:47 ` [PATCH v6 10/14] mm / iommu: split need_iommu() into has_iommu_pt() and need_iommu_pt_sync() Paul Durrant
2018-08-23 11:10   ` Razvan Cojocaru
2018-09-11 14:31   ` Jan Beulich
2018-09-11 15:40     ` Paul Durrant
2018-09-12  6:45       ` Jan Beulich
2018-09-12  8:07         ` Paul Durrant
2018-08-23  9:47 ` [PATCH v6 11/14] x86: add iommu_op to enable modification of IOMMU mappings Paul Durrant
2018-09-11 14:48   ` Jan Beulich
2018-09-11 15:52     ` Paul Durrant
2018-09-12  6:53       ` Jan Beulich
2018-09-12  8:04         ` Paul Durrant
2018-08-23  9:47 ` [PATCH v6 12/14] memory: add get_paged_gfn() as a wrapper Paul Durrant
2018-08-23 10:24   ` Julien Grall
2018-08-23 10:30     ` Paul Durrant
2018-09-11 14:56   ` Jan Beulich
2018-09-12  9:10     ` Paul Durrant
2018-09-12  9:15       ` Jan Beulich
2018-09-12 10:01         ` George Dunlap
2018-09-12 10:08           ` Paul Durrant
2018-09-12 10:10           ` Jan Beulich
2018-08-23  9:47 ` [PATCH v6 13/14] x86: add iommu_ops to modify and flush IOMMU mappings Paul Durrant
2018-09-11 15:15   ` Jan Beulich
2018-09-12  7:03   ` Jan Beulich
2018-09-12  8:02     ` Paul Durrant
2018-09-12  8:27       ` Jan Beulich
2018-09-13  6:41       ` Tian, Kevin
2018-09-13  8:32         ` Paul Durrant
2018-09-13  8:49         ` Jan Beulich
2018-08-23  9:47 ` [PATCH v6 14/14] x86: extend the map and unmap iommu_ops to support grant references Paul Durrant
2018-09-12 14:12   ` Jan Beulich
2018-09-12 16:28     ` Paul Durrant

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