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From: Julien Grall <julien.grall@arm.com>
To: Boris Ostrovsky <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com>,
	Shannon Zhao <shannon.zhao@linaro.org>,
	Wei Liu <wei.liu2@citrix.com>
Cc: ian.jackson@eu.citrix.com,
	Stefano Stabellini <sstabellini@kernel.org>,
	xen-devel@lists.xen.org, peter.huangpeng@huawei.com,
	Shannon Zhao <zhaoshenglong@huawei.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 16/17] libxc/xc_dom_arm: Copy ACPI tables to guest space
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2016 17:10:34 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <91a22152-cc3e-7e60-cf05-415a9c56c71f@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ec2b23ff-9748-625e-1872-2b1b9eca3398@oracle.com>

Hello,

On 12/07/2016 16:08, Boris Ostrovsky wrote:
> On 07/12/2016 10:57 AM, Shannon Zhao wrote:
>> On 2016年07月12日 22:50, Wei Liu wrote:
>>> On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 10:42:07PM +0800, Shannon Zhao wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does it mean we would need to update the slack to take into account the ACPI
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blob?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, we need to take into account the ACPI blob. Probably not in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> slack but directly in mam_memkb.
>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry, I'm not sure understand this. I found the b_info->max_memkb but
>>>>>>>>>>> didn't find the slack you said. And how to fix this? Update
>>>>>>>>>>> b_info->max_memkb or the slack?
>>>>>>> Can you calculate the size of your payload and add that to max_memkb?
>>>>>>>
>>>>> Yeah, but the size will be changed if we change the tables in the future
>>>>> and this also should consider x86, right?
>>> That could easily be solved by introducing a function to calculate the
>>> size, right?
>> Oh, I'm not familiar with this. Let's clarify on this. It can add the
>> size to max_memkb after generating the ACPI tables and before loading
>> the tables to guest space and it doesn't have to add the size at
>> libxl__domain_build_info_setdefault(), right?
>
> This was discussed before: ACPI tables are part of RAM whose size is
> specified by the config file (and is reflected in max_memkb I believe).
> It may not be presented to the guest as RAM (i.e. on x86 it is labeled
> by BIOS (or whoever) as a dedicated type in e820) but it still resides
> in DIMMs.

I don't think this was the conclusion of the thread. IHMO, "maxmem" is 
the amount of RAM a guest could effectively use.

Whilst the ACPI tables will be in the DIMM from the host point of view. 
 From a guest point of view it will be a ROM.

It will affect some others part of the guest if we don't increment the 
"maxmem" requested by the user. For ARM the ACPI blob will be exposed at 
a specific address that is outside of the guest RAM (see the guest 
memory layout in public/arch-arm.h).

We chose this solution over putting in the RAM because the ACPI tables 
are not easily relocatable (compare to the device tree, initrd and 
kernel) so we could not take advantage of superpage in both stage-2 
(hypervisor) and stage-1 (kernel) page table.

To give you a concrete example. When the user requests 1 gigabytes of 
memory, Xen will try to allocate a 1 gigabytes superpage.

If few kilobytes is removed from this 1 gigabytes, then we would have to 
use 2MB superpage which will impact both performance and memory usage.

So I think we should take into account the size of the ACPI blob in 
libxl and not reduce the memory requested by the user.

Regards,

-- 
Julien Grall

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-07-12 16:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 130+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-06-23  3:16 [PATCH v2 00/17] Xen ARM DomU ACPI support Shannon Zhao
2016-06-23  3:16 ` [PATCH v2 01/17] libxl/arm: Factor out codes for generating DTB Shannon Zhao
2016-06-23  3:16 ` [PATCH v2 02/17] libxc: Add placeholders for ACPI tables blob and size Shannon Zhao
2016-06-23  3:16 ` [PATCH v2 03/17] libxl/arm: Add a configuration option for ARM DomU ACPI Shannon Zhao
2016-06-23 13:39   ` Stefano Stabellini
2016-06-23 14:34     ` Shannon Zhao
2016-06-27 10:40       ` Julien Grall
2016-07-07 15:30         ` Wei Liu
2016-07-12  3:40           ` Shannon Zhao
2016-07-12  9:22             ` Julien Grall
2016-07-12 11:33               ` Wei Liu
2016-07-12 14:17                 ` Shannon Zhao
2016-07-12 14:33                   ` Wei Liu
2016-07-12 14:45                     ` Shannon Zhao
2016-07-13  7:54                 ` Shannon Zhao
2016-07-13  9:20                   ` Julien Grall
2016-07-13  9:48                     ` Shannon Zhao
2016-07-13 10:03                       ` Julien Grall
2016-07-15  8:00                         ` Shannon Zhao
2016-07-15  8:07                           ` Shannon Zhao
2016-07-18 19:40                             ` Stefano Stabellini
2016-07-19 10:40                               ` Wei Liu
2016-07-19 10:44                               ` Ian Jackson
2016-06-23 15:53   ` Julien Grall
2016-06-23  3:16 ` [PATCH v2 04/17] libxl/arm: prepare for constructing ACPI tables Shannon Zhao
2016-06-23 13:37   ` Stefano Stabellini
2016-06-23 14:23     ` Shannon Zhao
2016-06-23 14:27       ` Stefano Stabellini
2016-06-23 16:18   ` Julien Grall
2016-06-23  3:16 ` [PATCH v2 05/17] libxl/arm: Construct ACPI RSDP table Shannon Zhao
2016-06-23  3:16 ` [PATCH v2 06/17] libxl/arm: Construct ACPI XSDT table Shannon Zhao
2016-06-23  3:16 ` [PATCH v2 07/17] libxl/arm: Construct ACPI GTDT table Shannon Zhao
2016-06-23 15:00   ` Stefano Stabellini
2016-06-23 16:19     ` Julien Grall
2016-06-23 16:26   ` Julien Grall
2016-06-23 16:58     ` Julien Grall
2016-06-27  1:44     ` Shannon Zhao
2016-06-27 10:17       ` Julien Grall
2016-06-29  9:29         ` Shannon Zhao
2016-06-29  9:42           ` Julien Grall
2016-06-29 13:41             ` Shannon Zhao
2016-07-05 16:42         ` Stefano Stabellini
2016-07-06  9:50           ` Julien Grall
2016-07-06 10:16             ` Stefano Stabellini
2016-06-23  3:16 ` [PATCH v2 08/17] libxl/arm: Factor MPIDR computing codes out as a helper Shannon Zhao
2016-06-23 16:29   ` Julien Grall
2016-06-23  3:16 ` [PATCH v2 09/17] libxl/arm: Construct ACPI MADT table Shannon Zhao
2016-06-23 16:36   ` Julien Grall
2016-06-23  3:16 ` [PATCH v2 10/17] libxl/arm: Construct ACPI FADT table Shannon Zhao
2016-06-23  3:16 ` [PATCH v2 11/17] libxl/arm: Construct ACPI DSDT table Shannon Zhao
2016-06-23 14:50   ` Stefano Stabellini
2016-06-23 16:42     ` Julien Grall
2016-06-27  1:50       ` Shannon Zhao
2016-06-23 17:03   ` Julien Grall
2016-06-27  6:01     ` Shannon Zhao
2016-06-27 10:29       ` Julien Grall
2016-06-27 12:05         ` Boris Ostrovsky
2016-06-28 11:03           ` Shannon Zhao
2016-06-28 13:41             ` Boris Ostrovsky
2016-06-29 18:58               ` Boris Ostrovsky
2016-07-01  7:58                 ` Shannon Zhao
2016-07-01 10:18                   ` Julien Grall
2016-07-01 14:42                     ` Boris Ostrovsky
2016-07-01 15:14                       ` Julien Grall
2016-06-23  3:16 ` [PATCH v2 12/17] libxl/arm: Add a helper to calculate the ACPI table checksum Shannon Zhao
2016-06-23 17:05   ` Julien Grall
2016-06-23  3:17 ` [PATCH v2 13/17] libxl/arm: Link all ACPI tables into one buffer Shannon Zhao
2016-06-23 17:10   ` Julien Grall
2016-06-23  3:17 ` [PATCH v2 14/17] libxl/arm: Factor finalise_one_memory_node as a gerneric function Shannon Zhao
2016-06-23  3:17 ` [PATCH v2 15/17] libxl/arm: Add ACPI module Shannon Zhao
2016-06-23 18:35   ` Julien Grall
2016-06-25  3:22     ` Shannon Zhao
2016-06-27  9:48       ` Julien Grall
2016-06-23  3:17 ` [PATCH v2 16/17] libxc/xc_dom_arm: Copy ACPI tables to guest space Shannon Zhao
2016-06-23 18:46   ` Julien Grall
2016-06-27  6:25     ` Shannon Zhao
2016-06-27 10:49       ` Julien Grall
2016-06-27 12:11         ` Boris Ostrovsky
2016-07-05 17:13     ` Stefano Stabellini
2016-07-06  9:46       ` Julien Grall
2016-07-06 10:12         ` Stefano Stabellini
2016-07-12  3:47           ` Shannon Zhao
2016-07-12  9:25             ` Julien Grall
2016-07-12 11:35             ` Wei Liu
2016-07-12 14:42               ` Shannon Zhao
2016-07-12 14:50                 ` Wei Liu
2016-07-12 14:57                   ` Shannon Zhao
2016-07-12 15:08                     ` Boris Ostrovsky
2016-07-12 15:13                       ` Wei Liu
2016-07-12 15:21                         ` Boris Ostrovsky
2016-07-12 16:05                           ` Wei Liu
2016-07-12 16:10                       ` Julien Grall [this message]
2016-07-12 16:58                         ` Boris Ostrovsky
2016-07-13 15:22                           ` Julien Grall
2016-07-13 17:08                             ` Boris Ostrovsky
2016-07-14 11:15                               ` Wei Liu
2016-07-15  9:39                                 ` Shannon Zhao
2016-07-19 10:38                                   ` Wei Liu
2016-07-20  6:52                                     ` Shannon Zhao
2016-07-20  9:32                                       ` Wei Liu
2016-07-25  7:56                                         ` Shannon Zhao
2016-07-28 11:10                                           ` Julien Grall
2016-07-14 11:29                               ` Julien Grall
2016-07-14 13:37                             ` Stefano Stabellini
2016-07-20 12:33                               ` Julien Grall
2016-07-20 13:33                                 ` Boris Ostrovsky
2016-07-20 13:41                                   ` Julien Grall
2016-07-20 14:09                                     ` Boris Ostrovsky
2016-07-20 17:28                                       ` Stefano Stabellini
2016-07-20 19:51                                         ` Boris Ostrovsky
2016-07-21 17:53                                           ` Stefano Stabellini
2016-07-21 18:23                                             ` Julien Grall
2016-07-21 18:54                                               ` Stefano Stabellini
2016-07-21 19:14                                                 ` Julien Grall
2016-07-21 21:15                                                   ` Stefano Stabellini
2016-07-25  8:38                                                     ` George Dunlap
2016-07-25  9:46                                                       ` Julien Grall
2016-07-25 22:06                                                       ` Stefano Stabellini
2016-07-25 22:46                                                         ` Boris Ostrovsky
2016-07-25 23:40                                                           ` Stefano Stabellini
2016-07-26  1:17                                                             ` Boris Ostrovsky
2016-07-28 11:06                                                               ` Julien Grall
2016-07-28 12:42                                                                 ` Shannon Zhao
2016-08-02 11:01                                                                   ` Wei Liu
2016-08-03 19:20                                                                     ` Julien Grall
2016-08-04 10:17                                                                       ` Wei Liu
2016-08-02 11:01                                                                 ` Wei Liu
2016-07-07 15:35     ` Wei Liu
2016-06-23  3:17 ` [PATCH v2 17/17] libxl/arm: Initialize domain param HVM_PARAM_CALLBACK_IRQ Shannon Zhao
2016-06-23 18:48   ` Julien Grall

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