From: Paul Durrant <Paul.Durrant@citrix.com>
To: Jan Beulich <JBeulich@suse.com>
Cc: Kevin Tian <kevin.tian@intel.com>, Wei Liu <wei.liu2@citrix.com>,
Ian Campbell <Ian.Campbell@citrix.com>,
Andrew Cooper <Andrew.Cooper3@citrix.com>,
Zhang Yu <yu.c.zhang@linux.intel.com>,
"xen-devel@lists.xen.org" <xen-devel@lists.xen.org>,
Stefano Stabellini <Stefano.Stabellini@citrix.com>,
"zhiyuan.lv@intel.com" <zhiyuan.lv@intel.com>,
Ian Jackson <Ian.Jackson@citrix.com>,
"Keir (Xen.org)" <keir@xen.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 3/3] tools: introduce parameter max_wp_ram_ranges.
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2016 13:07:26 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <9467b97e15bc4cb1b8d6c948ad4fc926@AMSPEX02CL03.citrite.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <56B207EA02000078000CE0A8@prv-mh.provo.novell.com>
> -----Original Message-----
[snip]
> >> >> I'm getting the impression that we're moving in circles. A blanket
> >> >> limit above the 256 one for all domains is _not_ going to be
> >> >> acceptable; going to 8k will still need host admin consent. With
> >> >> your rangeset performance improvement patch, each range is
> >> >> going to be tracked by a 40 byte structure (up from 32), which
> >> >> already means an overhead increase for all the other ranges. 8k
> >> >> of wp ranges implies an overhead beyond 448k (including the
> >> >> xmalloc() overhead), which is not _that_ much, but also not
> >> >> negligible.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > ... which means we are still going to need a toolstack parameter to set
> the
> >> > limit. We already have a parameter for VRAM size so is having a
> parameter
> >> for
> >> > max. GTT shadow ranges such a bad thing?
> >>
> >> It's workable, but not nice (see also Ian's earlier response).
> >>
> >> > Is the fact that the memory comes
> >> > from xenheap rather than domheap the real problem?
> >>
> >> Not the primary one, since except on huge memory machines
> >> both heaps are identical. To me the primary one is the quite
> >> more significant resource consumption in the first place (I'm not
> >> going to repeat what I've written in already way too many
> >> replies before).
> >
> > Ok. Well the only way round tracking specific ranges for emulation (and
> > consequently suffering the overhead) is tracking by type. For XenGT I
> guess
> > it would be possible to live with a situation where a single ioreq server can
> > register all wp mem emulations for a given VM. I can't say I particularly
> > like that way of doing things but if it's the only way forward then I guess
> > we may have to live with it.
>
> Well, subject to Ian not objecting (still awaiting some follow-up by
> him), I didn't mean to say doing it the proposed way is a no-go.
> All that I really insist on is that this larger resource consumption
> won't go without some form of host admin consent.
>
Would you be ok with purely host admin consent e.g. just setting the limit via boot command line?
Paul
> Jan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-02-03 13:07 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 109+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-01-29 10:45 [PATCH v12 0/3] Refactor ioreq server for better performance Yu Zhang
2016-01-29 10:45 ` [PATCH v12 1/3] Refactor rangeset structure " Yu Zhang
2016-01-29 10:45 ` [PATCH v12 2/3] Differentiate IO/mem resources tracked by ioreq server Yu Zhang
2016-01-29 10:45 ` [PATCH v3 3/3] tools: introduce parameter max_wp_ram_ranges Yu Zhang
2016-01-29 16:33 ` Jan Beulich
2016-01-30 14:38 ` Yu, Zhang
2016-02-01 7:52 ` Jan Beulich
2016-02-01 12:02 ` Wei Liu
2016-02-01 12:15 ` Jan Beulich
2016-02-01 12:49 ` Wei Liu
2016-02-01 13:07 ` Jan Beulich
2016-02-01 15:14 ` Yu, Zhang
2016-02-01 16:16 ` Jan Beulich
2016-02-01 16:33 ` Yu, Zhang
2016-02-01 16:19 ` Yu, Zhang
2016-02-01 16:35 ` Jan Beulich
2016-02-01 16:37 ` Yu, Zhang
2016-02-01 17:05 ` Ian Jackson
2016-02-02 8:04 ` Yu, Zhang
2016-02-02 11:51 ` Wei Liu
2016-02-02 13:56 ` Yu, Zhang
2016-02-02 10:32 ` Jan Beulich
2016-02-02 10:56 ` Yu, Zhang
2016-02-02 11:12 ` Jan Beulich
2016-02-02 14:01 ` Yu, Zhang
2016-02-02 14:42 ` Jan Beulich
2016-02-02 15:00 ` Yu, Zhang
2016-02-02 15:21 ` Jan Beulich
2016-02-02 15:19 ` Yu, Zhang
2016-02-03 7:10 ` Yu, Zhang
2016-02-03 8:32 ` Jan Beulich
2016-02-03 12:20 ` Paul Durrant
2016-02-03 12:35 ` Jan Beulich
2016-02-03 12:50 ` Paul Durrant
2016-02-03 13:00 ` Jan Beulich
2016-02-03 13:07 ` Paul Durrant [this message]
2016-02-03 13:17 ` Jan Beulich
2016-02-03 13:18 ` Paul Durrant
2016-02-03 14:43 ` Ian Jackson
2016-02-03 15:10 ` Paul Durrant
2016-02-03 17:50 ` George Dunlap
2016-02-04 8:50 ` Yu, Zhang
2016-02-03 17:41 ` George Dunlap
2016-02-03 18:21 ` George Dunlap
2016-02-03 18:26 ` George Dunlap
2016-02-03 18:39 ` Andrew Cooper
2016-02-03 19:12 ` George Dunlap
2016-02-04 8:51 ` Yu, Zhang
2016-02-04 10:49 ` George Dunlap
2016-02-04 11:08 ` Ian Campbell
2016-02-04 11:19 ` Ian Campbell
2016-02-04 8:50 ` Yu, Zhang
2016-02-04 9:28 ` Paul Durrant
2016-02-04 9:38 ` Yu, Zhang
2016-02-04 9:49 ` Paul Durrant
2016-02-04 10:34 ` Jan Beulich
2016-02-04 13:33 ` Ian Jackson
2016-02-04 13:47 ` Paul Durrant
2016-02-04 14:12 ` Jan Beulich
2016-02-04 14:25 ` Paul Durrant
2016-02-04 15:06 ` Ian Jackson
2016-02-04 15:51 ` Paul Durrant
2016-02-05 3:47 ` Tian, Kevin
2016-02-05 3:35 ` Tian, Kevin
2016-02-04 14:08 ` Jan Beulich
2016-02-04 17:12 ` George Dunlap
2016-02-05 4:18 ` Tian, Kevin
2016-02-05 8:41 ` Yu, Zhang
2016-02-05 8:32 ` Jan Beulich
2016-02-05 9:24 ` Paul Durrant
2016-02-05 10:41 ` Jan Beulich
2016-02-05 11:14 ` George Dunlap
2016-02-05 11:24 ` Paul Durrant
2016-02-16 7:22 ` Tian, Kevin
2016-02-16 8:50 ` Paul Durrant
2016-02-16 10:33 ` Jan Beulich
2016-02-16 11:11 ` Paul Durrant
2016-02-17 3:18 ` Tian, Kevin
2016-02-17 8:58 ` Paul Durrant
2016-02-17 9:32 ` Jan Beulich
2016-02-17 9:58 ` Tian, Kevin
2016-02-17 10:03 ` Paul Durrant
2016-02-17 10:22 ` Jan Beulich
2016-02-17 10:24 ` Paul Durrant
2016-02-17 10:25 ` Tian, Kevin
2016-02-17 11:01 ` George Dunlap
2016-02-17 11:12 ` Paul Durrant
2016-02-22 15:56 ` George Dunlap
2016-02-22 16:02 ` Paul Durrant
2016-02-22 16:45 ` George Dunlap
2016-02-22 17:01 ` Paul Durrant
2016-02-22 17:23 ` George Dunlap
2016-02-22 17:34 ` Paul Durrant
2016-02-05 8:41 ` Yu, Zhang
2016-02-04 11:06 ` George Dunlap
2016-02-05 2:01 ` Zhiyuan Lv
2016-02-05 3:44 ` Tian, Kevin
2016-02-05 8:38 ` Jan Beulich
2016-02-05 11:05 ` George Dunlap
2016-02-05 15:13 ` Zhiyuan Lv
2016-02-05 20:14 ` George Dunlap
2016-02-05 8:40 ` Yu, Zhang
2016-02-04 10:06 ` Ian Campbell
2016-02-05 3:31 ` Tian, Kevin
2016-02-02 11:31 ` Andrew Cooper
2016-02-02 11:43 ` Jan Beulich
2016-02-02 14:20 ` Andrew Cooper
2016-02-01 11:57 ` Wei Liu
2016-02-01 15:15 ` Yu, Zhang
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