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From: Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>
To: Jan Beulich <JBeulich@suse.com>
Cc: Xen-devel <xen-devel@lists.xen.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/7] Fixes to pagetable handling
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2017 16:32:06 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <99a3e41c-3d33-fe1e-4d67-f43a08064ea2@citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <58B703E3020000780013EE2C@prv-mh.provo.novell.com>

On 01/03/17 16:24, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>>> On 27.02.17 at 15:03, <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com> wrote:
>> Outstanding hardware issues discovered include:
>>   1) There is an observable delay in AMD Fam 10h processors between loading a
>>      segment selector, and the results of the LDT/GDT memory access being
>>      visible in the pagetables (via the Access bits being set).
> Are you saying the processor continues executing instructions
> while the accessed bits are still clear? Or just that it takes very
> long to complete the instruction doing the descriptor table access?

The processor does continue to execute instructions before the access
bit gets set.  I discovered this because my XTF test which checks for
the correct behaviour of the A/D bits tripped over it.  (On that note, I
really need to clean up that test and post it.)

Even a 1000-nop loop isn't always enough of a delay to observe the
access bit becoming set.  OTOH, a serialising instruction, or forcing a
memory access through the newly-loaded segment reliably cause the
effects of the load to become visible.

The memory access definitely occurs at the point of the implicit load,
because #GP are raised properly for bad segment descriptor settings...

~Andrew

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-03-01 16:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-02-27 14:03 [PATCH 0/7] Fixes to pagetable handling Andrew Cooper
2017-02-27 14:03 ` [PATCH 1/7] x86/hvm: Correctly identify implicit supervisor accesses Andrew Cooper
2017-03-01 15:05   ` Jan Beulich
2017-03-02 16:14   ` Tim Deegan
2017-03-07 10:46   ` George Dunlap
2017-03-07 10:51   ` Andrew Cooper
2017-03-07 15:00   ` Paul Durrant
2017-02-27 14:03 ` [PATCH 2/7] x86/shadow: Try to correctly " Andrew Cooper
2017-03-01 15:11   ` Jan Beulich
2017-03-02 16:14   ` Tim Deegan
2017-03-07 11:26   ` George Dunlap
2017-03-07 11:55     ` Andrew Cooper
2017-02-27 14:03 ` [PATCH 3/7] x86/pagewalk: Helpers for reserved bit handling Andrew Cooper
2017-03-01 15:57   ` Jan Beulich
2017-03-02 12:23     ` Andrew Cooper
2017-03-02 14:12   ` Tim Deegan
2017-03-02 14:17     ` Andrew Cooper
2017-03-02 15:09       ` Tim Deegan
2017-03-02 15:14         ` Andrew Cooper
2017-03-02 16:15   ` Tim Deegan
2017-02-27 14:03 ` [PATCH 4/7] x86/hvm: Adjust hvm_nx_enabled() to match how Xen behaves Andrew Cooper
2017-03-01 16:00   ` Jan Beulich
2017-02-27 14:03 ` [PATCH 5/7] x86/shadow: Use the pagewalk reserved bits helpers Andrew Cooper
2017-03-01 16:03   ` Jan Beulich
2017-03-02 12:26     ` Andrew Cooper
2017-03-02 12:51       ` Jan Beulich
2017-03-02 12:56         ` Andrew Cooper
2017-03-02 13:19           ` Jan Beulich
2017-03-02 14:32             ` Andrew Cooper
2017-03-06  9:26       ` Tim Deegan
2017-03-02 14:33   ` Tim Deegan
2017-02-27 14:03 ` [PATCH 6/7] x86/pagewalk: Consistently use guest_walk_*() helpers for translation Andrew Cooper
2017-03-01 16:22   ` Jan Beulich
2017-03-01 16:33     ` Andrew Cooper
2017-03-01 16:41       ` Jan Beulich
2017-03-02 16:15   ` Tim Deegan
2017-03-06 18:25   ` George Dunlap
2017-02-27 14:03 ` [PATCH 7/7] x86/pagewalk: Re-implement the pagetable walker Andrew Cooper
2017-03-02 11:52   ` Jan Beulich
2017-03-02 12:00     ` Andrew Cooper
2017-03-02 12:54       ` Jan Beulich
2017-03-02 16:16   ` Tim Deegan
2017-03-06 18:28   ` George Dunlap
2017-03-06 18:33     ` Andrew Cooper
2017-03-06 18:39       ` George Dunlap
2017-03-07 12:57   ` George Dunlap
2017-03-01 16:24 ` [PATCH 0/7] Fixes to pagetable handling Jan Beulich
2017-03-01 16:32   ` Andrew Cooper [this message]
2017-03-06 16:42 ` [RFC XTF PATCH] Pagetable Emulation testing Andrew Cooper
2017-03-13 15:45   ` Jan Beulich
2017-03-13 17:48     ` Andrew Cooper
2017-03-14 11:17       ` Jan Beulich

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