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From: Keir Fraser <keir.fraser@eu.citrix.com>
To: Joanna Rutkowska <joanna@invisiblethingslab.com>
Cc: "Han, Weidong" <weidong.han@intel.com>,
	"Cihula, Joseph" <joseph.cihula@intel.com>,
	"Kay, Allen M" <allen.m.kay@intel.com>,
	"xen-devel@lists.xensource.com" <xen-devel@lists.xensource.com>
Subject: Re: feature suggestion: DMAR table emulation for Xen
Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 11:48:33 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <C812E911.144DD%keir.fraser@eu.citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4BED22DA.9050904@invisiblethingslab.com>

On 14/05/2010 11:15, "Joanna Rutkowska" <joanna@invisiblethingslab.com>
wrote:

>> Yeah, actually the integrated graphics can implement all sorts of dirty
>> tricks between OS driver, video BIOS, and SMM. This can rely on fixed memory
>> areas for communication -- both for host accesses and DMA, the latter
>> requiring RMRR setup. Maybe the RMRRs are static per-chipset, but I wouldn't
>> be too sure of it.
>> 
> Hmmm... Shouldn't this affect only (and potentially) the text mode
> display? I would expect that once Dom0 Linux takes over, it would be
> using its own IGD driver that is VT-d aware and is not on the mercy of
> the evil BIOS?

Well, if you do not pass through the IGD to a domU then the issue is moot.
Dom0 gets an all-inclusive mapping below 4GB, which should be a superset of
anything the RMRRs would specify. It's when passing through to a domU that
the RMRRs matter, especially if you pass through as the primary adaptor and
hence re-execute the video BIOS in domU context.

 -- Keir

> And we can disable the (ugly) Xen debug output, and have Dom0 linux boot
> with kmodeset boot argument that would load the proper driver and switch
> to a graphics mode right at the beginning.

  reply	other threads:[~2010-05-14 10:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-05-13 14:14 feature suggestion: DMAR table emulation for Xen Joanna Rutkowska
2010-05-14  5:41 ` Kay, Allen M
2010-05-14  9:22   ` Joanna Rutkowska
2010-05-14  9:35     ` Keir Fraser
2010-05-14 10:15       ` Joanna Rutkowska
2010-05-14 10:48         ` Keir Fraser [this message]
2010-05-14 10:58           ` Joanna Rutkowska
2010-05-14 11:29             ` Keir Fraser
2010-05-14 11:47               ` philosophically about IGD pass-through (was: feature suggestion: DMAR table emulation for Xen) Joanna Rutkowska
2010-05-14 11:58                 ` James Harper
2010-05-14 12:30                 ` Keir Fraser
2010-05-14 15:57                 ` Dan Magenheimer
2010-05-14 16:43                   ` philosophically about IGD pass-through Joanna Rutkowska
2010-05-14 17:54                 ` philosophically about IGD pass-through (was: feature suggestion: DMAR table emulation for Xen) Kay, Allen M
2010-05-15 16:54             ` feature suggestion: DMAR table emulation for Xen Ian Pratt
2010-05-15 17:12               ` IGD passthrough security (was Re: feature suggestion: DMAR table emulation for Xen) Joanna Rutkowska
2010-05-14  9:41     ` feature suggestion: DMAR table emulation for Xen Barde Kaushik 00901718
2010-05-14 10:16       ` Joanna Rutkowska
2010-05-14 14:25         ` Barde Kaushik 00901718

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