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From: Keir Fraser <keir@xen.org>
To: Jan Beulich <JBeulich@novell.com>
Cc: George Dunlap <George.Dunlap@eu.citrix.com>,
	Christoph Egger <Christoph.Egger@amd.com>,
	"xen-devel@lists.xensource.com" <xen-devel@lists.xensource.com>
Subject: Re: regression from c/s 22071:c5aed2e049bc (ept: Put locks around ept_get_entry) ?
Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2010 16:42:46 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <C92FF206.D1D6%keir@xen.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4D0A4AC90200007800028731@vpn.id2.novell.com>

On 16/12/2010 16:22, "Jan Beulich" <JBeulich@novell.com> wrote:

>> Probably a similar assumption to what we make in x86_64's pte_write_atomic()
>> implementation? Possibly pte_{read,write}_atomic() should cast the pte
>> pointer to volatile, and the EPT reads/writes should be similarly wrapped in
>> macros which do casting. I'm sure we make various other assumptions about
>> read/write atomicity in Xen, but aiming to fix them as we find them is maybe
>> not a bad idea.
>> 
>> If that sounds good, I can propose a patch?
> 
> Oh, yes. I didn't even consider there might be more places.
> 
> What I'm surprised about is you suggesting to take the "volatile"
> route instead of the barrier() one...

I don't think barrier() would solve the problem at hand. The idiom we are
dealing with is something like:
 x = *px;
 [barrier()]
 <mess with fields in x>
 [barrier()]
 *px = x;

I don't see that adding the bracketed barrier() calls above ensures that the
access to *px are done in a single atomic instruction. There's nothing
touching non-local variables between the two barrier()s, so for example the
code that messes with x could be moved after the second barrier() and then
the compiler could choose to mess with *px directly if it wishes.

The issue is not one of serialisation or code ordering. It is one of
memory-access atomicity. Thus it seems to me that volatile is the correct
approach therefore. Perhaps *(volatile type *)px = x or, really, even better
I should define some {read,write}_atomic{8,16,32,64} accessor functions
which use inline asm to absolutely definitely emit a single atomic 'mov'
instruction.

Make sense?

 -- Keir

  reply	other threads:[~2010-12-16 16:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-12-14  8:39 regression from c/s 22071:c5aed2e049bc (ept: Put locks around ept_get_entry) ? Jan Beulich
2010-12-14 10:47 ` George Dunlap
2010-12-14 10:48   ` George Dunlap
2010-12-14 12:37   ` Jan Beulich
2010-12-14 14:32     ` George Dunlap
2010-12-14 14:34       ` George Dunlap
2010-12-14 14:50         ` Jan Beulich
2010-12-16 15:51   ` Jan Beulich
2010-12-16 16:12     ` Keir Fraser
2010-12-16 16:22       ` Jan Beulich
2010-12-16 16:42         ` Keir Fraser [this message]
2010-12-16 16:50           ` Jan Beulich
2010-12-16 17:03             ` Keir Fraser
2010-12-16 20:34               ` Keir Fraser
2010-12-17 11:15                 ` Tim Deegan
2010-12-20 16:24                   ` George Dunlap
2010-12-17 14:03               ` Olaf Hering
2010-12-17 14:18                 ` Keir Fraser
2010-12-16 16:59           ` Keir Fraser

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