From: Keir Fraser <keir@xen.org>
To: Jan Beulich <JBeulich@novell.com>
Cc: George Dunlap <George.Dunlap@eu.citrix.com>,
Christoph Egger <Christoph.Egger@amd.com>,
"xen-devel@lists.xensource.com" <xen-devel@lists.xensource.com>
Subject: Re: regression from c/s 22071:c5aed2e049bc (ept: Put locks around ept_get_entry) ?
Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2010 16:59:15 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <C92FF5E3.D20A%keir@xen.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <C92FF206.D1D6%keir@xen.org>
On 16/12/2010 16:42, "Keir Fraser" <keir@xen.org> wrote:
> On 16/12/2010 16:22, "Jan Beulich" <JBeulich@novell.com> wrote:
>
>>> Probably a similar assumption to what we make in x86_64's pte_write_atomic()
>>> implementation? Possibly pte_{read,write}_atomic() should cast the pte
>>> pointer to volatile, and the EPT reads/writes should be similarly wrapped in
>>> macros which do casting. I'm sure we make various other assumptions about
>>> read/write atomicity in Xen, but aiming to fix them as we find them is maybe
>>> not a bad idea.
>>>
>>> If that sounds good, I can propose a patch?
>>
>> Oh, yes. I didn't even consider there might be more places.
>>
>> What I'm surprised about is you suggesting to take the "volatile"
>> route instead of the barrier() one...
>
> I don't think barrier() would solve the problem at hand. The idiom we are
> dealing with is something like:
> x = *px;
> [barrier()]
> <mess with fields in x>
> [barrier()]
> *px = x;
>
> I don't see that adding the bracketed barrier() calls above ensures that the
> access to *px are done in a single atomic instruction. There's nothing
> touching non-local variables between the two barrier()s, so for example the
> code that messes with x could be moved after the second barrier() and then
> the compiler could choose to mess with *px directly if it wishes.
Or in George's EPT changes, I think the issue was getting an atomic snapshot
of some P2M flags (populate-on-demand vs. valid vs. ...). Again, barrier()
would not help since <mess with fields in x> could be moved before the first
barrier(), and again the compiler can then do a number of direct reads on
*px. So, again, the right fix is to make the memory read properly atomic via
use of volatile, and preferably a snippet of inline asm to guarantee we emit
the desired single mov instruction.
-- Keir
> The issue is not one of serialisation or code ordering. It is one of
> memory-access atomicity. Thus it seems to me that volatile is the correct
> approach therefore. Perhaps *(volatile type *)px = x or, really, even better
> I should define some {read,write}_atomic{8,16,32,64} accessor functions
> which use inline asm to absolutely definitely emit a single atomic 'mov'
> instruction.
>
> Make sense?
>
> -- Keir
>
>
prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-12-16 16:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-12-14 8:39 regression from c/s 22071:c5aed2e049bc (ept: Put locks around ept_get_entry) ? Jan Beulich
2010-12-14 10:47 ` George Dunlap
2010-12-14 10:48 ` George Dunlap
2010-12-14 12:37 ` Jan Beulich
2010-12-14 14:32 ` George Dunlap
2010-12-14 14:34 ` George Dunlap
2010-12-14 14:50 ` Jan Beulich
2010-12-16 15:51 ` Jan Beulich
2010-12-16 16:12 ` Keir Fraser
2010-12-16 16:22 ` Jan Beulich
2010-12-16 16:42 ` Keir Fraser
2010-12-16 16:50 ` Jan Beulich
2010-12-16 17:03 ` Keir Fraser
2010-12-16 20:34 ` Keir Fraser
2010-12-17 11:15 ` Tim Deegan
2010-12-20 16:24 ` George Dunlap
2010-12-17 14:03 ` Olaf Hering
2010-12-17 14:18 ` Keir Fraser
2010-12-16 16:59 ` Keir Fraser [this message]
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