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From: Keir Fraser <keir.xen@gmail.com>
To: Christoph Egger <Christoph.Egger@amd.com>
Cc: "xen-devel@lists.xensource.com" <xen-devel@lists.xensource.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] nestedhvm: ASID emulation
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 17:22:30 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <C9CB8C56.164B6%keir.xen@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4DA5BEF4.3060504@amd.com>

On 13/04/2011 16:19, "Christoph Egger" <Christoph.Egger@amd.com> wrote:

> On 04/13/11 17:05, Keir Fraser wrote:
>> On 13/04/2011 15:26, "Christoph Egger"<Christoph.Egger@amd.com>  wrote:
>> 
>> Is this measurable on a macro benchmark?
> 
> I measured this with xentrace while l2 guest is booting.
> 
> The speedup is noticable on the end-user side just by the feeling on how
> fast the l2 guest reacts on user input.

Yikes. Does nestedhvm suck really badly then? I can't believe this patch
alone gets you from sucky to good performance. Is it an improvement from
sucky to not-quite-as-sucky?

>> I mean this looks like a micro-optimisation on a feature that noone is going
>> to use for serious performance work anyway.
>> 
>>> 4. nestedhvm is enabled and we are going to run l2 guest
>>> 
>>> We run the l1 guest in the last call. The asid generation may have
>>> changed by then. In this case the current nv_n2asid number is stale
>>> and the value of data->next_asid is<= of nv->nv_n2asid.
>> 
>> How do you know for sure that next_asid will be<= nv_n2asid in this case?
>> What if other VCPUs have run meanwhile, and next_asid has been incremented
>> multiple times until it is greather than nv_n2asid?
> 
> In that case  curr->arch.hvm_vcpu.asid_generation is not equal to
> data->core_asid_generation  and a new hw ASID number is assigned
> regardless of the values of data->next_asid and nv_n2asid.

What if nv_n2asid wast last assigned on a previous generation, but nv_n1asid
was assigned from the current generation? Then you'd have next_asid >
nv_n2asid, but nv_n2asid is stale.

 -- Keir

> Christoph
> 
>> 
>>   -- Keir
>> 
>>> The the value of nv->nv_n2asid is valid if l1 guest doesn't change
>>> the virtual asid (= asid number in the virtual vmcb) and
>>> data->next_asid is larger than nv->nv_n2asid. In this case
>>> just reuse the same hw ASID that has been used from the last
>>> VMRUN emulation.
>>> 
>>> 5. nestedhvm is enabled and we are going to run l2 guest again
>>> 
>>> The same hw ASID should be reused unless the generation changed because
>>> the nestedp2m got flushed or the vcpu moved to a different physical cpu,
>>> for example.
>>> But the hw ASID number may never match the hw ASID used to run the l1 guest.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> In all cases we have to verify that the
>>> 
>>>> I wouldn't bother fixing #2 unless there's a convincing answer for #1.
>>>> 
>>>>    -- Keir
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2011-04-13 16:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-04-13 10:37 [PATCH] nestedhvm: ASID emulation Christoph Egger
2011-04-13 13:27 ` Keir Fraser
2011-04-13 14:26   ` Christoph Egger
2011-04-13 15:05     ` Keir Fraser
2011-04-13 15:19       ` Christoph Egger
2011-04-13 16:22         ` Keir Fraser [this message]
2011-04-14  9:26           ` Christoph Egger
2011-04-14 10:28             ` Keir Fraser
2011-04-14 14:01               ` Christoph Egger
2011-04-14 14:43                 ` Keir Fraser
2011-04-15  8:20                   ` Christoph Egger
2011-04-15  9:05                     ` Keir Fraser
2011-04-15  9:08                       ` Christoph Egger
2011-04-15  9:24                         ` Keir Fraser
2011-04-15  9:57                           ` Christoph Egger
2011-04-15 12:53                             ` Keir Fraser
2011-04-15 12:49                               ` Christoph Egger
2011-04-15 13:40                               ` Christoph Egger
2011-04-13 13:51 ` Christoph Egger
2011-04-13 14:48   ` Christoph Egger
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2011-04-13  8:57 Christoph Egger
2011-04-13  9:18 ` Keir Fraser

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