From: Keir Fraser <keir.xen@gmail.com>
To: Dan Magenheimer <dan.magenheimer@oracle.com>,
Jan Beulich <JBeulich@novell.com>
Cc: xen-devel@lists.xensource.com
Subject: Re: [xen-unstable test] 6947: regressions - trouble: broken/fail/pass
Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 18:07:51 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <C9E4A377.1718F%keir.xen@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <57c7db22-3761-4c60-9277-2fab94cee60a@default>
On 02/05/2011 17:36, "Dan Magenheimer" <dan.magenheimer@oracle.com> wrote:
> I won't claim to understand RCU very well either, but I
> actually explicitly chose a pre-RCU version of the Linux
> radix tree code because tmem (which was the only user of
> the radix tree code at the time IIRC) is write-often
> AND read-often and my understanding of RCU is that it
> works best for read-often-write-infrequently trees.
That is where it gives the best performance boost (because it obviates the
need for read-side locking, with its associated overheads). But there can be
other reasons for using a lock-free synchronisation strategy -- our current
motivation, sync'ing with interrupt handlers (or, similarly, signal handlers
in Unix processes), is another common one.
In terms of the cost of switching to an RCU radix-tree implementation, for
those users that don't need it (i.e., tmem, because you have full lock-based
synchronisation) it looks like node deletions unconditionally wait for an
RCU grace period before freeing the old node. If tmem is doing a reasonable
rate of deletion it might make sense for us to make that optional, selected
when the tree is first initialised. It would be easy enough to add an
'rcu_safe' flag for that purpose. There's also a rcu_head struct added to
every tree node. Not so much we can do about that. It's only 16 bytes,
hopefully not too bad an issue for tmem.
-- Keir
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-05-02 17:07 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-05-01 19:56 [xen-unstable test] 6947: regressions - trouble: broken/fail/pass xen.org
2011-05-01 20:48 ` Keir Fraser
2011-05-02 9:01 ` Jan Beulich
2011-05-02 11:22 ` Keir Fraser
2011-05-02 12:00 ` Jan Beulich
2011-05-02 12:13 ` Keir Fraser
2011-05-02 12:24 ` Jan Beulich
2011-05-02 12:19 ` Keir Fraser
2011-05-02 12:29 ` Jan Beulich
2011-05-02 13:14 ` Keir Fraser
2011-05-02 13:39 ` Keir Fraser
2011-05-02 14:04 ` Jan Beulich
2011-05-02 15:45 ` Keir Fraser
2011-05-02 16:36 ` Dan Magenheimer
2011-05-02 17:07 ` Keir Fraser [this message]
2011-05-03 9:35 ` Jan Beulich
2011-05-03 10:09 ` Keir Fraser
2011-05-03 13:36 ` Jan Beulich
2011-05-03 14:09 ` Keir Fraser
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