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From: Javier Marcet <jmarcet@gmail.com>
To: Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad@kernel.org>
Cc: Xen Devel Mailing list <xen-devel@lists.xen.org>
Subject: Re: Xen 4.2.0-rc4 issues with DVB tuner
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 10:41:37 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAAnFQG9PuzRLSsCS8m_0VUeV+ZaCwK3zsbinxtuFBfdSihJknw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAAnFQG9s=Yh4od18q8xDOD7ukA4uurxCKWiLrULFkP66Zc+iPg@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 2:08 AM, Javier Marcet <jmarcet@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,

> Still nothing. Not even enabling the debug options within the DVB
> subsystem I get
> anything which doesn't look perfectly normal, exactly like when it's
> working fine.
>
> I have just posted a message on the linux media mailing list looking
> for some help
> from the dvb maintainers.

I have some news from the linux-media mailing list. There, Devin Heitmueller,
said this:

"""
> Initially I thought Xen would be the cause of the problem, but after
> having written on
> the Xen development mailing list and talked about it with a couple
> developers, it isn't
> very clear where the problem is. So far I haven't been able to get the
> smallest warning
> or error.

This is a very common problem when attempting to use any PCI/PCIe
tuner under a hypervisor.  Essentially the issue is all of the
virtualization solutions provide very poor interrupt latency, which
results in the data being lost.

Devices delivering a high bitrate stream of data in realtime are much
more likely for this problem to be visible since such devices have
very little buffering (it's not like a hard drive controller where it
can just deliver the data slower).  The problem is not specific to the
cx23885 - pretty much all of the PCI/PCIe bridges used in tuner cards
work this way, and they cannot really be blamed for expecting to run
in an environment with really crappy interrupt latency.

I won't go as far as to say, "abandon all hope", but you're not really
likely to find any help in this forum.
"""

What I don´t understand is how graphics pass through even works
and a tuner card has problems due to the introduced latencies in the
IRQs.

Do you have any more info about this?


-- 
Javier Marcet <jmarcet@gmail.com>

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  reply	other threads:[~2012-09-18  8:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-09-13 12:01 Xen 4.2.0-rc4 issues with DVB tuner Javier Marcet
2012-09-14 20:47 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-09-16 14:57   ` Javier Marcet
2012-09-17 14:28     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-09-17 15:02       ` Javier Marcet
2012-09-17 20:09       ` Javier Marcet
2012-09-17 20:56         ` Javier Marcet
2012-09-18  0:08           ` Javier Marcet
2012-09-18  8:41             ` Javier Marcet [this message]
2012-09-18  8:57               ` Keir Fraser
2012-09-18 10:52                 ` Javier Marcet
2012-09-18 14:33                   ` Sander Eikelenboom
2012-09-18 15:12                     ` Javier Marcet
2012-09-18 16:08                       ` Sander Eikelenboom
2012-09-18 16:22                         ` Javier Marcet
2012-09-18 17:17               ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-09-18 18:26                 ` Javier Marcet
2012-09-18 19:34                   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-09-18 19:57                     ` Javier Marcet
2012-12-05 22:06                     ` The neverending load increase Carsten Schiers
2013-01-07 16:29                       ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk

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