From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: "Luis R. Rodriguez" Subject: Re: [PATCH] systemd: add support initial systemd service files Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2014 11:35:39 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1394582593-8910-1-git-send-email-mcgrof@do-not-panic.com> <532017DC.1000208@jajcus.net> <21280.16798.776010.706100@mariner.uk.xensource.com> <1394623532.21145.39.camel@kazak.uk.xensource.com> <53204837.1010806@citrix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: Received: from mail6.bemta5.messagelabs.com ([195.245.231.135]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WNo0a-0005pZ-Ri for xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org; Wed, 12 Mar 2014 18:36:05 +0000 Received: by mail-lb0-f175.google.com with SMTP id w7so6827290lbi.20 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2014 11:36:00 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <53204837.1010806@citrix.com> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: xen-devel-bounces@lists.xen.org Errors-To: xen-devel-bounces@lists.xen.org To: Andrew Cooper Cc: xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org, Ian Jackson , Ian Campbell , Jacek Konieczny , Stefano Stabellini List-Id: xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 4:42 AM, Andrew Cooper wrote: >> On the other hand if systemd using distros are carrying their own >> service files then each of them will be rediscovering the issues >> themselves, possibly after we've triaged it here for the Nth time. Even >> if the set of upstream service files are not kept completely up to date >> at least they are in a common location, with some >0 chance of getting >> update when things change. >> >> I'm not sure which way I am leaning right now. > > Speaking in my capacity as a downstream consumer, I would much prefer > upstream to carry scripts for each init system. > > IMO, the benefits of not repeatedly solving the same bug different ways, > and a wider set of eyes checking changes outweigh the problems of things > getting out of sync. My hope was also that we could work together on fixing things in one place, as terrible and imperfect as they may be right now. The other thing to keep in mind is that systemd is simply optional and the files will only be used on systems that would prefer to use them. Luis