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From: Tamas K Lengyel <tamas.lengyel@zentific.com>
To: Julien Grall <julien.grall@linaro.org>
Cc: Ian Campbell <ian.campbell@citrix.com>, Tim Deegan <tim@xen.org>,
	Ian Jackson <ian.jackson@eu.citrix.com>,
	"xen-devel@lists.xen.org" <xen-devel@lists.xen.org>,
	Stefano Stabellini <stefano.stabellini@citrix.com>,
	Andres Lagar-Cavilla <andres@lagarcavilla.org>,
	Jan Beulich <jbeulich@suse.com>,
	Daniel De Graaf <dgdegra@tycho.nsa.gov>,
	Tamas K Lengyel <tklengyel@sec.in.tum.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 09/17] xen/arm: p2m type definitions and changes
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 22:20:24 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAErYnsh2J1yjVCTO1juh2YutY4Cb11g3gPi0agHxiHrKyyWYYg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <54134C4C.10806@linaro.org>


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On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 9:41 PM, Julien Grall <julien.grall@linaro.org>
wrote:

> Hello Tamas,
>
> On 12/09/14 01:31, Tamas K Lengyel wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 10:49 PM, Julien Grall <julien.grall@linaro.org
>> <mailto:julien.grall@linaro.org>> wrote:
>>
>>     Hi Tamas,
>>
>>     On 10/09/14 06:28, Tamas K Lengyel wrote:
>>       >   static lpae_t mfn_to_p2m_entry(unsigned long mfn, unsigned int
>>     mattr,
>>
>>         -                               p2m_type_t t)
>>         +                               p2m_type_t t, p2m_access_t a)
>>            {
>>                paddr_t pa = ((paddr_t) mfn) << PAGE_SHIFT;
>>                /* sh, xn and write bit will be defined in the following
>>         switches
>>         @@ -347,7 +350,7 @@ static int p2m_create_table(struct domain
>>         *d, lpae_t *entry,
>>                     for ( i=0 ; i < LPAE_ENTRIES; i++ )
>>                     {
>>                         pte = mfn_to_p2m_entry(base_pfn +
>>         (i<<(level_shift-LPAE_SHIFT)),
>>         -                                    MATTR_MEM, t);
>>         +                                    MATTR_MEM, t,
>>         p2m->default_access);
>>
>>
>>     I though I've talked about it in an earlier version. I don't think
>>     we should use the default_access to the P2M table.
>>
>>     Let assume a user decides to set default to another access type than
>>     p2m_access_rwx, Xen will receive the same trap forever for the
>>     domain because the access is not store in the radix tree (see your
>>     patch #12). Therefore the guest will try to access back to the
>>     guest, but the page attribute has not changed.
>>
>>     Also, you can't associate a PFN to this page because the table is
>>     internal to Xen.
>>
>>     IHMO, I would use p2m_access_rwx for the table L1 and L2 tables. For
>>     L3, you will have to set the permission in the radix tree.
>>
>>
>> I'm not sure I follow exactly what you are saying. Setting
>> default_access only effects pages created after the fact and I see that
>> if a large page is created this still causes a problem.. Is that what
>> you mean? A better solution would be to only allow creating 4k pages if
>> default_access != rwx IMHO and then store the setting in the radix tree
>> automatically.
>>
>
> That what I was trying to say.
>
> You can do it easily in the function is_mapping_aligned.
>
> But for the intermediate page table (see the mfn_to_p2m_entry(...,...,
> p2m_invalid), you should not use default_access but directly access_rwx.
>

Ack.


>
>
>
>> I was also contemplating if it would make sense if a setting was not
>> found in the radix tree, to check the violation against the
>> default_access.
>>
>
> The violation of the page may be different than the default access. I
> think it could be a mess for the guest. The radix tree should containe very
> pte where the access != rwx.
>
>
>  That way we would not have to store those entries in the
>> radix tree that are the same as the default_access (and rwx of course
>> would not go in the radix tree either). Might cut down the size of the
>> tree.
>>
>
> The default_access may change after the insertion of the PTE. How will you
> handle this case? IHMO, I don't think there is simple solution.
>
>
Yea, I gave it some thought today and it became quite complex so it's not
worth the trouble.


> Regards,
>
> --
> Julien Grall
>

Thanks!
Tamas

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Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-09-10 13:28 [PATCH v5 00/17] Mem_event and mem_access for ARM Tamas K Lengyel
2014-09-10 13:28 ` [PATCH v5 01/17] xen: Relocate mem_access and mem_event into common Tamas K Lengyel
2014-09-10 13:28 ` [PATCH v5 02/17] xen: Relocate p2m_mem_access_resume to mem_access common Tamas K Lengyel
2014-09-11 20:16   ` Julien Grall
2014-09-12  8:56     ` Tamas K Lengyel
2014-09-10 13:28 ` [PATCH v5 03/17] xen: Relocate struct npfec definition into common Tamas K Lengyel
2014-09-10 13:28 ` [PATCH v5 04/17] xen: Relocate mem_event_op domctl and access_op memop " Tamas K Lengyel
2014-09-10 13:44   ` Jan Beulich
2014-09-10 13:28 ` [PATCH v5 05/17] xen/mem_event: Clean out superfluous white-spaces Tamas K Lengyel
2014-09-10 13:28 ` [PATCH v5 06/17] xen/mem_event: Relax error condition on debug builds Tamas K Lengyel
2014-09-10 13:28 ` [PATCH v5 07/17] xen/mem_event: Abstract architecture specific sanity checks Tamas K Lengyel
2014-09-10 13:28 ` [PATCH v5 08/17] xen/mem_access: Abstract architecture specific sanity check Tamas K Lengyel
2014-09-10 13:28 ` [PATCH v5 09/17] xen/arm: p2m type definitions and changes Tamas K Lengyel
2014-09-11 20:25   ` Julien Grall
2014-09-12  8:15     ` Tamas K Lengyel
2014-09-12 19:23       ` Julien Grall
2014-09-12 20:25         ` Tamas K Lengyel
2014-09-11 20:49   ` Julien Grall
2014-09-12  8:31     ` Tamas K Lengyel
2014-09-12 19:41       ` Julien Grall
2014-09-12 20:20         ` Tamas K Lengyel [this message]
2014-09-10 13:28 ` [PATCH v5 10/17] xen/arm: Add set access required domctl Tamas K Lengyel
2014-09-11 20:26   ` Julien Grall
2014-09-10 13:28 ` [PATCH v5 11/17] xen/arm: Implement domain_get_maximum_gpfn Tamas K Lengyel
2014-09-11 20:28   ` Julien Grall
2014-09-12  8:58     ` Tamas K Lengyel
2014-09-10 13:28 ` [PATCH v5 12/17] xen/arm: Data abort exception (R/W) mem_events Tamas K Lengyel
2014-09-11 21:19   ` Julien Grall
2014-09-12  8:46     ` Tamas K Lengyel
2014-09-12 20:35       ` Julien Grall
2014-09-12 20:48         ` Tamas K Lengyel
2014-09-12 21:04           ` Julien Grall
2014-09-10 13:28 ` [PATCH v5 13/17] xen/arm: Instruction prefetch abort (X) mem_event handling Tamas K Lengyel
2014-09-11 21:23   ` Julien Grall
2014-09-12  8:34     ` Tamas K Lengyel
2014-09-10 13:28 ` [PATCH v5 14/17] xen/arm: Enable the compilation of mem_access and mem_event on ARM Tamas K Lengyel
2014-09-10 13:28 ` [PATCH v5 15/17] xen: Extend getdomaininfo to return the domain's max_gpfn Tamas K Lengyel
2014-09-10 13:48   ` Jan Beulich
2014-09-10 13:55     ` Tamas K Lengyel
2014-09-10 13:28 ` [PATCH v5 16/17] tools/libxc: Allocate magic page for mem access on ARM Tamas K Lengyel
2014-09-10 13:28 ` [PATCH v5 17/17] tools/tests: Enable xen-access " Tamas K Lengyel
2014-09-11 21:29   ` Julien Grall
2014-09-12  8:50     ` Tamas K Lengyel
2014-09-12  9:01     ` Tamas K Lengyel
2014-09-10 13:51 ` [PATCH v5 00/17] Mem_event and mem_access for ARM Jan Beulich
2014-09-10 14:01   ` Tamas K Lengyel
2014-09-15 22:26     ` Ian Campbell
2014-09-16  8:00       ` Jan Beulich

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