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From: Oleksandr Tyshchenko <olekstysh@gmail.com>
To: Jan Beulich <JBeulich@suse.com>
Cc: Ian Jackson <ian.jackson@eu.citrix.com>,
	Julien Grall <julien.grall@arm.com>,
	Stefano Stabellini <sstabellini@kernel.org>,
	Wei Liu <wei.liu2@citrix.com>,
	xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 02/10] iommu: Add extra order argument to the IOMMU APIs and platform callbacks
Date: Wed, 17 May 2017 18:28:25 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPD2p-m4GXr57PRmhNfJt_gqZ8kUifDeB_jB3MtFnrfLv3Sywg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <591B1691020000780015A353@prv-mh.provo.novell.com>

Hi, Jan.

On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 4:11 PM, Jan Beulich <JBeulich@suse.com> wrote:
>>>> On 16.05.17 at 14:48, <olekstysh@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 3:33 PM, Jan Beulich <JBeulich@suse.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On 15.05.17 at 12:43, <olekstysh@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Indeed, there was some misunderstanding from my side on this.
>>>> Let me elaborate a bit more on this:
>>>> 1. Yes, this TODO shouldn't be just dropped, but needs to be
>>>> addressed, so at least I will have them back in the patch
>>>> 2. I am not a x86 guy and not familiar with the Intel/AMD IOMMUs, so
>>>> it makes me lots of work to do this change
>>>> properly, so this is not only the question of testing the code, but rather
>>>> having it written.
>>>> 3. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but these are all *optimizations* which
>>>> I am mentioning in that TODO, not something that breaks x86 or affects it
>>>> in any way.
>>>>
>>>> That being said, can we postpone implementation of the *optimizations*
>>>> in question
>>>> and have those as a separate activity?
>>>> Or if these *optimizations* must be present in the current patch
>>>> series, could you, please, provide me with some hints how
>>>> these TODO should be properly implemented?
>>>
>>> I'm puzzled. When I first commented on these TODOs I did say
>>> "While I appreciate this not being done in the already large patch,
>>> I don't think such a TODO should be left around. If need be (e.g.
>>> because you can't test the change), get in touch with the
>>> maintainer(s)." Of course the "e.g." extends to the actual
>>> implementation. IOW I'm not saying you need to do this work
>>> immediately and all by yourself, but there should be a clear plan
>>> on getting these items addressed. We shouldn't ship several
>>> releases with them still present. I'm sorry this hits you, but we've
>>> had too bad experience in the past with people leaving todo or
>>> fixme notes in the code, perhaps even promising to address them
>>> without ever doing so.
>> I see. You are right about leaving TODO)
>> Don't mind to get these items addressed *within current patch series*
>> as separate patch or patches.
>> So, we have to address for three IOMMUs: Intel/AMD and SMMU. I will
>> leave SMMU for myself.
>>
>> Could you, please, provide me with some hints how these TODO should be
>> properly implemented?
>
> I have to admit that I don't really understand the request. Quite
> clearly we want to use large pages in the case that hardware
> supports them.
>
>> I was thinking I can even just squash *pages with *page and send you a
>> draft as we need to start from somewhere.
>
> I'm afraid I've lost too much of the context to see what you mean
> here.
Sorry if I was unclear.

At the moment patch contains three TODOs in the following files:
1. a/xen/drivers/passthrough/vtd/iommu.c
2. a/xen/drivers/passthrough/amd/iommu_map.c
3. a/xen/drivers/passthrough/arm/smmu.c

And the *optimization* which I mentioned in that TODO is same for all
three files.
+/* TODO: Optimize by squashing map_pages/unmap_pages with
map_page/unmap_page */

I think that I could try to address this TODO by myself as I imagine
it should be addressed and send you a draft or post RFC patch.
As the result of this RFC patch we would have map_pages/unmap_pages
callbacks only, but still iterate 4K pages.

We need to start from somewhere and this patch would be a base point
for continue optimizing.
What do you think? Or you have another opinion?

>
> Jan
>



-- 
Regards,

Oleksandr Tyshchenko

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Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-05-10 14:03 [PATCH v1 00/10] "Non-shared" IOMMU support on ARM Oleksandr Tyshchenko
2017-05-10 14:03 ` [PATCH v1 01/10] xen/device-tree: Add dt_count_phandle_with_args helper Oleksandr Tyshchenko
2017-05-10 14:50   ` Jan Beulich
2017-05-10 15:06     ` Oleksandr Tyshchenko
2017-05-10 14:03 ` [PATCH v1 02/10] iommu: Add extra order argument to the IOMMU APIs and platform callbacks Oleksandr Tyshchenko
2017-05-12 14:23   ` Jan Beulich
2017-05-12 15:50     ` Oleksandr Tyshchenko
2017-05-12 16:17       ` Jan Beulich
2017-05-12 16:25         ` Oleksandr Tyshchenko
2017-05-15  7:22           ` Jan Beulich
2017-05-15 10:43             ` Oleksandr Tyshchenko
2017-05-15 12:33               ` Jan Beulich
2017-05-16 12:48                 ` Oleksandr Tyshchenko
2017-05-16 13:11                   ` Jan Beulich
2017-05-17 15:28                     ` Oleksandr Tyshchenko [this message]
2017-05-17 15:39                       ` Jan Beulich
2017-05-17 18:49                         ` Oleksandr Tyshchenko
2017-05-10 14:03 ` [PATCH v1 03/10] xen/arm: p2m: Add helper to convert p2m type to IOMMU flags Oleksandr Tyshchenko
2017-05-10 14:03 ` [PATCH v1 04/10] xen/arm: p2m: Update IOMMU mapping whenever possible if page table is not shared Oleksandr Tyshchenko
2017-05-11 11:24   ` Julien Grall
2017-05-11 14:19     ` Oleksandr Tyshchenko
2017-05-10 14:03 ` [PATCH v1 05/10] iommu/arm: Re-define iommu_use_hap_pt(d) as iommu_hap_pt_share Oleksandr Tyshchenko
2017-05-11 11:28   ` Julien Grall
2017-05-11 14:38     ` Oleksandr Tyshchenko
2017-05-11 17:58       ` Julien Grall
2017-05-11 18:21         ` Oleksandr Tyshchenko
2017-05-10 14:03 ` [PATCH v1 06/10] iommu: Add extra use_iommu argument to iommu_domain_init() Oleksandr Tyshchenko
2017-05-12 14:31   ` Jan Beulich
2017-05-12 17:00     ` Oleksandr Tyshchenko
2017-05-15  7:27       ` Jan Beulich
2017-05-17 19:52     ` Julien Grall
2017-05-18  8:38       ` Jan Beulich
2017-05-18 17:41         ` Oleksandr Tyshchenko
2017-05-19  6:30           ` Jan Beulich
2017-05-19  8:56             ` Oleksandr Tyshchenko
2017-05-10 14:03 ` [PATCH v1 07/10] iommu/arm: Add alloc_page_table platform callback Oleksandr Tyshchenko
2017-05-11 11:38   ` Julien Grall
2017-05-11 14:00     ` Oleksandr Tyshchenko
2017-05-11 18:06       ` Julien Grall
2017-05-11 18:43         ` Oleksandr Tyshchenko
2017-05-12 14:36         ` Jan Beulich
2017-05-10 14:03 ` [PATCH v1 08/10] iommu: Split iommu_hwdom_init() into arch specific parts Oleksandr Tyshchenko
2017-05-12 14:41   ` Jan Beulich
2017-05-12 15:25     ` Oleksandr Tyshchenko
2017-05-12 15:34       ` Jan Beulich
2017-05-15  7:20         ` Jan Beulich
2017-05-15  7:42           ` Julien Grall
2017-05-15  8:19             ` Jan Beulich
2017-05-15 11:45               ` Julien Grall
2017-05-15 12:43                 ` Jan Beulich
2017-05-17 15:45                   ` Oleksandr Tyshchenko
2017-05-17 16:01                     ` Jan Beulich
2017-05-17 18:51                       ` Oleksandr Tyshchenko
2017-05-17 20:30                         ` Julien Grall
2017-05-18  8:53                           ` Jan Beulich
2017-05-18 18:06                             ` Oleksandr Tyshchenko
2017-05-19  6:33                               ` Jan Beulich
2017-05-10 14:03 ` [PATCH v1 09/10] xen/arm: Add use_iommu flag to xen_arch_domainconfig Oleksandr Tyshchenko
2017-05-11 11:42   ` Julien Grall
2017-05-11 14:04     ` Oleksandr Tyshchenko
2017-05-10 14:03 ` [PATCH v1 10/10] xen/arm: domain_build: Don't expose the "iommus" property to the guest Oleksandr Tyshchenko
2017-05-11 11:58   ` Julien Grall
2017-05-11 14:15     ` Oleksandr Tyshchenko
2017-05-11 18:07       ` Julien Grall
2017-05-11 18:19         ` Oleksandr Tyshchenko
2017-05-11 18:19           ` Julien Grall

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