From: Keir Fraser <keir@xen.org>
To: Haitao Shan <maillists.shan@gmail.com>, Jan Beulich <JBeulich@suse.com>
Cc: "Liu, Jinsong" <jinsong.liu@intel.com>,
Shaohua Li <shaohua.li@intel.com>,
"keir.xen@gmail.com" <keir.xen@gmail.com>,
xen-devel <xen-devel@lists.xen.org>,
Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: Core parking feature enable
Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2012 11:00:00 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CB7658B0.3AB7D%keir@xen.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFQ2Z+eqXt61TWV_+3xDWR+A9RgEGm9UbRoDNpy+D-QkujsUuQ@mail.gmail.com>
On 02/03/2012 09:42, "Haitao Shan" <maillists.shan@gmail.com> wrote:
> I would really doubt the need to create a new interface of receiving
> ACPI event and sending to user land (other than existing native
> kernel) specifically for Xen. What's the benefit and why kernel people
> should buy-in that?
> Core parking is a platform feature, not virtualization feature.
> Naturally following native approach is the most efficient. Why do you
> want to create yet another interface for Xen to do that?
While I sympathise with your position rather more than Jan does, the fact is
that it's *you* who are suggesting yet-another-Xen-interface. Whereas doing
it in userspace requires only existing hypercalls I believe.
-- Keir
> Shan Haitao
>
> 2012/3/1 Jan Beulich <JBeulich@suse.com>:
>>>>> On 01.03.12 at 15:31, "Liu, Jinsong" <jinsong.liu@intel.com> wrote:
>>> Jan Beulich wrote:
>>>>>>> On 01.03.12 at 12:14, "Liu, Jinsong" <jinsong.liu@intel.com> wrote:
>>>>> Unfortunately, yes, though cumbersome is not basic reason user space
>>>>> approach is not preferred. Core parking is a power management staff,
>>>>> based on dynamic physical details like cpu topologies and maps owned
>>>>> by hypervisor. It's natural to implement
>>>>
>>>> CPU topology is available to user space, and as far as I recall your
>>>> hypervisor patch didn't really manipulate any maps - all it did was
>>>> pick what CPU to bring up/down, and then carry out that decision.
>>>
>>> No. threads_per_core and cores_per_socket exposed to userspace is pointless
>>> to us (and, it's questionable need fixup).
>>
>> Sure this would be insufficient. But what do you think did
>> XEN_SYSCTL_topologyinfo get added for?
>>
>>> Core parking depends on following physical info (no matter where it
>>> implement):
>>> 1. cpu_online_map;
>>> 2. cpu_present_map;
>>> 3. cpu_core_mask;
>>> 4. cpu_sibling_mask;
>>> all of them are *dynamic*, especially, 3/4 are varied per cpu and per
>>> online/offline ops.
>>
>> Afaict all of these can be reconstructed using (mostly sysctl)
>> hypercalls.
>>
>> Jan
>>
>>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-03-02 11:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-02-17 8:54 Core parking feature enable Liu, Jinsong
2012-02-17 9:41 ` Jan Beulich
2012-02-17 17:48 ` Liu, Jinsong
2012-02-21 8:03 ` Jan Beulich
2012-02-22 3:19 ` Liu, Jinsong
[not found] ` <DE8DF0795D48FD4CA783C40EC82923350A7F35@SHSMSX101.ccr.corp.intel.com>
2012-02-29 12:41 ` Liu, Jinsong
2012-02-29 12:47 ` Liu, Jinsong
2012-02-29 13:47 ` Jan Beulich
2012-03-01 8:20 ` Liu, Jinsong
2012-03-01 8:50 ` Jan Beulich
2012-03-01 11:14 ` Liu, Jinsong
2012-03-01 11:21 ` Jan Beulich
2012-03-01 14:31 ` Liu, Jinsong
2012-03-01 15:11 ` Jan Beulich
2012-03-02 9:42 ` Haitao Shan
2012-03-02 11:00 ` Keir Fraser [this message]
2012-03-05 21:27 ` Haitao Shan
2012-03-05 21:50 ` Keir Fraser
2012-03-02 11:46 ` Jan Beulich
2012-03-04 15:48 ` Liu, Jinsong
2012-03-05 10:57 ` Jan Beulich
2012-03-05 15:50 ` Liu, Jinsong
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