Re: [Hackathon Minutes] Xen 4.4 Planning

[Gordan Bobic <gordan@bobich.net>]

 On Fri, 14 Jun 2013 15:44:50 +0100 (BST), Ian Murray 
 <murrayie@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Ian Campbell <Ian.Campbell@citrix.com>
>> To: Ian Murray <murrayie@yahoo.co.uk>
>> Cc: Alex Bligh <alex@alex.org.uk>; "xen-devel@lists.xen.org" 
>> <xen-devel@lists.xen.org>
>> Sent: Friday, 14 June 2013, 14:55
>> Subject: Re: [Xen-devel] [Hackathon Minutes] Xen 4.4 Planning
>>
>> On Fri, 2013-06-14 at 14:34 +0100, Ian Murray wrote:
>>>
>>>  >>
>>>  >>  so where is this publically available repo?
>>>  >
>>>  > repo.flexiant.com/ ..., which is installed by default for anyone 
>>> using
>>>  > our binaries.
>>>  >
>>>  > You'll obviously have found:
>>>  > http://docs.flexiant.com/display/DOCS/Open+Source+Software
>>>
>>>  Nope. Still can't find a link from the main site.
>>>
>>>  Besides, I am not sure if providing source via a repo who's 
>>> address
>>>  isn't publically published is really complying with your
>>>  resposibilities, is it?
>>
>> Assuming you are referring to the responsibilities of the GPL you 
>> should
>> probably read the license (or at least do some basic investigation 
>> of
>> the terms) to see what it actually requires before making these 
>> sorts of
>> accusations.
>>
>> There are options for applying the GPL which don't require anything 
>> like
>> what you seem to expect. There's certainly no requirement for a link 
>> on
>> ones website when one uses GPL software.
>>
>> The text of the GPL is freely available. I strongly suggest you go 
>> read
>> it, it's not all that long nor is it particularly full of legalese.
>>
>> Accusing someone of a license infringement is rather a serious 
>> matter
>> and you really should make sure you know what you are talking about
>> before doing so.
>>
>> I think you are totally out of order hounding Alex like this.
>>
>>>   Again, not a lawyer, just IMHO.
>>
>> Lawyer or otherwise I think you would be well advised to keep your
>> opinions to yourself until you've actually read the license in 
>> question.
>>
>> Ian.
>>
>
> My understanding is that source should be made available in a
> reasonable format to any 3rd party if you distribute modified code
> that is licenced to you via the GPL. Do I have that wrong?

 IANAL, but:

 Reasonable format can mean anything. For example the kernel source
 for the Toshiba AC100 (ARM based Android laptop) was provided by
 Toshiba upon request on a CD by snail mail when those of us playing
 with the device requested it.

 If nobody is requesting the source, it arguably doesn't matter.
 But if somebody is asking for it, it must be provided. That's
 about the size of it as far as I can work out.

 Gordan

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