From: Paul Durrant <Paul.Durrant@citrix.com>
To: Paul Durrant <Paul.Durrant@citrix.com>,
Ian Jackson <Ian.Jackson@citrix.com>
Cc: "xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org" <xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org>,
Wei Liu <wei.liu2@citrix.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RESEND] tools/libxl: add support for emulated NVMe drives
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2017 16:45:49 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <c299570a30794466b8b633c0d4a05129@AMSPEX02CL03.citrite.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6a44fdab4945492bb7ee4f5096c3cee1@AMSPEX02CL03.citrite.net>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Xen-devel [mailto:xen-devel-bounces@lists.xen.org] On Behalf Of
> Paul Durrant
> Sent: 22 March 2017 16:32
> To: Ian Jackson <Ian.Jackson@citrix.com>
> Cc: xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org; Wei Liu <wei.liu2@citrix.com>
> Subject: Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH RESEND] tools/libxl: add support for
> emulated NVMe drives
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ian Jackson [mailto:ian.jackson@eu.citrix.com]
> > Sent: 22 March 2017 16:03
> > To: Paul Durrant <Paul.Durrant@citrix.com>
> > Cc: xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org; Wei Liu <wei.liu2@citrix.com>
> > Subject: RE: [PATCH RESEND] tools/libxl: add support for emulated NVMe
> > drives
> >
> > Paul Durrant writes ("RE: [PATCH RESEND] tools/libxl: add support for
> > emulated NVMe drives"):
> > > > Oh, wait, I have just noticed that you have reused an entry in this
> > > > table!
> > > >
> > > > 1 << 28 | disk << 8 | partition xvd, disks or partitions 16 onwards
> > > > ...
> > > > > + 1 << 28 | disk << 8 nvme, all disks, whole disk only
> > >
> > > Yes, that was intentional. No need for a new concrete encoding if we
> > > ignore namespaces, as I said in the commit comment. If you want to
> > > support namespaces then it would need something new... which doesn't
> > > seem worth it since QEMU has no support.
> >
> > That's not my point. The purpose of this table is to advise guests
> > what the conventional in-guest device name ought to be for a certain
> > vbd.
>
> Yes, and xvd<something> is a perfectly fine name for a PV device in pretty
> much every case. It's already the case that emulated IDE disks are exposed to
> guests using xvd* numbering.
>
> >
> > We can't have one single numerical encoding mapping to two device
> > names. That makes no sense.
> >
> > Presumably these NVME devices should be subject to the same vbd and
> > unplug approach as scsi and ide disks.
>
> Yes, that's what the QEMU patch does.
>
> > In which case guests need to
> > be told that the device name for the vbd should be "nvme<something>",
> > which can only be done by using a different number.
> >
>
> That means modifications to PV frontends would be needed, which is going
> to make things more difficult. Most OS find disks by UUID these days anyway
> so I'm still not sure that just using xvd* numbering would really be a problem.
>
Also, if we're going to go for distinct numbering then I guess the QEMU patch is probably wrong because we'd want guests with non-aware PV frontend to leave emulated NVMe devices plugged in.
Paul
> Paul
>
> > Ian.
>
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Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-03-22 13:09 [PATCH RESEND] tools/libxl: add support for emulated NVMe drives Paul Durrant
2017-03-22 14:16 ` Ian Jackson
2017-03-22 14:22 ` Paul Durrant
2017-03-22 15:01 ` Ian Jackson
2017-03-22 15:21 ` Paul Durrant
2017-03-22 16:03 ` Ian Jackson
2017-03-22 16:31 ` Paul Durrant
2017-03-22 16:45 ` Paul Durrant [this message]
2017-03-22 17:02 ` Ian Jackson
2017-03-22 17:16 ` Paul Durrant
2017-03-22 17:31 ` Ian Jackson
2017-03-22 17:41 ` Paul Durrant
2017-03-22 17:48 ` Ian Jackson
2017-03-23 8:55 ` Paul Durrant
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2017-01-13 14:00 Paul Durrant
2017-01-18 10:28 ` Wei Liu
2017-01-18 10:51 ` Paul Durrant
2017-01-18 12:02 ` Wei Liu
2017-01-18 12:15 ` Paul Durrant
2017-01-18 12:20 ` Wei Liu
2017-01-18 15:07 ` Wei Liu
2017-01-19 8:58 ` Paul Durrant
2017-01-19 11:18 ` Wei Liu
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