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From: Sarah Newman <srn@prgmr.com>
To: Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
	Jan Beulich <JBeulich@suse.com>
Cc: xen-devel@lists.xen.org
Subject: Re: Can't always start 32 bit domains after 64 bit domains
Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2016 13:06:46 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <dd9a4dba-a4ea-9edf-491f-30f68ca94636@prgmr.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fd1dec0f-cb92-54a6-e7d2-db6051edb187@prgmr.com>

On 11/21/2016 11:37 AM, Sarah Newman wrote:
> On 11/21/2016 05:21 AM, Andrew Cooper wrote:
>> On 21/11/16 10:05, Jan Beulich wrote:
> 
>>>>> Back in the xend days someone here had invented a (crude) mechanism
>>>>> to set aside memory for 32-bit PV domains, but I don't think dealing with
>>>>> this situation in xl has ever seen any interest.
>>>> If I wanted to add that, where would it go?
>>> I don't know, that's a question for xl folks I guess.
>>
>> IIRC, given no other constraints, the Xen heap allocation allocates from
>> the top down to help this exact case.
> 
> Yes, that's what I thought it did too, though I can't find my source information for that.
> 
>>
>> I suspect that libxl's preference towards NUMA allocation of domains
>> interferes with this, by adding a NUMA constraints to memory allocations
>> for 64bit PV guests.
> 
> I ran xl info -n (which I didn't know about before) and that shows the problem much more clearly.
> 
> If that's the reason not all the higher memory is being used first: is a potential workaround to pin 64 bit domains to the second physical core on
> boot, and 32 bit domains to the first physical core on boot, and then change the allowed cores with 'xl vcpu-pin' after the domain is loaded?

Free memory on a test server with no domains:
node:    memsize    memfree    distances
   0:    148480     142983      10,21
   1:    147456     144645      21,10

Free memory booting 116 256M 64-bit domains, limited to cpus='all,^0-1' on boot:
node:    memsize    memfree    distances
   0:    148480     128416      10,21
   1:    147456     129669      21,10

Free memory booting 116 256M 64-bit domains, limited to cpus='12-23' on boot:
node:    memsize    memfree    distances
   0:    148480     143397      10,21
   1:    147456     114693      21,10

This looks like a viable workaround. Where should I document it?

--Sarah

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Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <3423fa13-18bd-ff7b-f44a-af015eda2eb7@prgmr.com>
2016-11-19 21:22 ` Can't always start 32 bit domains after 64 bit domains Sarah Newman
2016-11-21  8:20   ` Jan Beulich
2016-11-21  9:45     ` Sarah Newman
2016-11-21 10:05       ` Jan Beulich
2016-11-21 13:21         ` Andrew Cooper
2016-11-21 19:37           ` Sarah Newman
2016-11-21 21:06             ` Sarah Newman [this message]
2016-11-22 18:46               ` Dario Faggioli
2016-11-22 19:37                 ` Sarah Newman
2016-11-22 21:40                   ` Dario Faggioli
2016-11-27  1:14                     ` Dario Faggioli
2016-11-27  2:46                       ` Sarah Newman
2016-11-22 18:37             ` Dario Faggioli

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