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From: Paul Durrant <Paul.Durrant@citrix.com>
Cc: "xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org" <xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org>,
	Wei Liu <wei.liu2@citrix.com>,
	Ian Jackson <Ian.Jackson@citrix.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RESEND] tools/libxl: add support for emulated NVMe drives
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2017 12:15:22 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e825a93b3d4b4a8ba41f79e88cac5d17@AMSPEX02CL03.citrite.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170118120222.GT5089@citrix.com>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wei Liu [mailto:wei.liu2@citrix.com]
> Sent: 18 January 2017 12:02
> To: Paul Durrant <Paul.Durrant@citrix.com>
> Cc: Wei Liu <wei.liu2@citrix.com>; xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org; Ian
> Jackson <Ian.Jackson@citrix.com>
> Subject: Re: [PATCH RESEND] tools/libxl: add support for emulated NVMe
> drives
> 
[snip]
> > > >
> > > > -   For HVM guests, each whole-disk hd* and and sd* device is made
> > > > -   available _both_ via emulated IDE resp. SCSI controller, _and_ as a
> > > > -   Xen VBD.  The HVM guest is entitled to assume that the IDE or SCSI
> > > > -   disks available via the emulated IDE controller target the same
> > > > +   For HVM guests, each whole-disk hd*, sd* or nvme* device is made
> > > > +   available _both_ via emulated IDE, SCSI controller or NVMe drive
> > > > +   respectively _and_ as a Xen VBD.  The HVM guest is entitled to
> > > > +   assume that the disks available via the emulation target the same
> > >
> > > How do you expect the guest to deal with multipath NVMe devices?
> Maybe
> > > we need to add unplug support for NVMe devices in QEMU?
> >
> > That's true. For convenience, there would need to a QEMU patch for
> unplug to allow displacement of the emulated device with PV. I can
> document this as a shortcoming at the moment, if that's ok?
> >
> 
> The unplug functionality, as I understand, is crucial to data integrity.
> Documenting this as shortcoming doesn't seem to be good enough.  Do we
> need to wait until QEMU is ready before we can apply this patch?

It will take time to get a patch into QEMU and if you're going to use PV drivers then you have little interest in the emulation model. I think just documenting it would be ok. For safety I guess I could explore the possibility of having libxl not create a PV backend for this vdev type.

  Paul

> 
> Wei.
> 
> 
> >   Paul

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-01-18 12:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-01-13 14:00 [PATCH RESEND] tools/libxl: add support for emulated NVMe drives Paul Durrant
2017-01-18 10:28 ` Wei Liu
2017-01-18 10:51   ` Paul Durrant
2017-01-18 12:02     ` Wei Liu
2017-01-18 12:15       ` Paul Durrant [this message]
2017-01-18 12:20         ` Wei Liu
2017-01-18 15:07           ` Wei Liu
2017-01-19  8:58             ` Paul Durrant
2017-01-19 11:18               ` Wei Liu
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2017-03-22 13:09 Paul Durrant
2017-03-22 14:16 ` Ian Jackson
2017-03-22 14:22   ` Paul Durrant
2017-03-22 15:01     ` Ian Jackson
2017-03-22 15:21       ` Paul Durrant
2017-03-22 16:03         ` Ian Jackson
2017-03-22 16:31           ` Paul Durrant
2017-03-22 16:45             ` Paul Durrant
2017-03-22 17:02             ` Ian Jackson
2017-03-22 17:16               ` Paul Durrant
2017-03-22 17:31                 ` Ian Jackson
2017-03-22 17:41                   ` Paul Durrant
2017-03-22 17:48                     ` Ian Jackson
2017-03-23  8:55                       ` Paul Durrant

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