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From: Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>
To: Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net>, xen-devel <xen-devel@lists.xen.org>
Subject: Re: Possible to prevent dom0 accessing guest memory?
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2016 15:06:12 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ff23faef-fdb1-0cb3-e0db-cfec532768d4@citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20161114145134.GJ1804@bitfolk.com>

On 14/11/16 14:51, Andy Smith wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Please forgive me if this is a naive question but I do not know this
> low-level stuff very well.
>
> If the ability of the toolstack to dump a guest's memory (e.g. xl
> dump-core) were disabled on the hypervisor side, would there be any
> other way to do so from dom0 without rebooting the machine into a
> hypervisor that had the capability re-enabled?
>
> I understand dom0 has privileges to map devices to guests; does that
> give it a way to read arbitrary memory without need of toolstack
> support?
>
> The purpose of my question is in seeing if disk encryption in VMs
> can be made slightly more useful. If there were no way for root in
> dom0 to read guest memory without rebooting into a different
> hypervisor then I think that would be a useful step.

You have misunderstood a step.

Dom0 can map all of guest memory.  This is how `xl dump-core` is
implemented, as well as how Qemu emulates devices for the guest.

However, it is also a strict requirement for Dom0 to construct the
domain in the first place, so you can't simply disable it in the
hypervisor and end up with a working system.

Even if it were possible to exclude this in Xen, Dom0 by default has a
number of powers which can alter hypervisor code, such as loading a
crash kernel or a livepatch.

~Andrew

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  reply	other threads:[~2016-11-14 15:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-11-14 14:51 Possible to prevent dom0 accessing guest memory? Andy Smith
2016-11-14 15:06 ` Andrew Cooper [this message]
2016-11-14 15:29   ` Andy Smith
2016-11-14 17:09     ` George Dunlap
2016-11-14 20:35       ` Andy Smith

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