* [PATCH 0/2] bitbake-setup docs fixes
@ 2026-03-31 8:14 Antonin Godard
2026-03-31 8:14 ` [PATCH 1/2] bitbake-setup: rename "abort" rebase conflict stragegy to "halt" Antonin Godard
2026-03-31 8:14 ` [PATCH 2/2] doc/bitbake-user-manual-environment-setup.rst: replace shell blocks by console Antonin Godard
0 siblings, 2 replies; 17+ messages in thread
From: Antonin Godard @ 2026-03-31 8:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: bitbake-devel; +Cc: Thomas Petazzoni, docs, Antonin Godard
Signed-off-by: Antonin Godard <antonin.godard@bootlin.com>
---
Antonin Godard (2):
bitbake-setup: rename "abort" rebase conflict stragegy to "halt"
doc/bitbake-user-manual-environment-setup.rst: replace shell blocks by console
bin/bitbake-setup | 8 ++---
.../bitbake-user-manual-environment-setup.rst | 36 +++++++++++-----------
.../bitbake-user-manual-fetching.rst | 2 +-
lib/bb/tests/setup.py | 8 ++---
4 files changed, 27 insertions(+), 27 deletions(-)
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base-commit: 7cf11787ee7942a00ba7e8fa2c590a2563070c38
change-id: 20260331-docs-fixes-0dcb4e95b16f
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread* [PATCH 1/2] bitbake-setup: rename "abort" rebase conflict stragegy to "halt" 2026-03-31 8:14 [PATCH 0/2] bitbake-setup docs fixes Antonin Godard @ 2026-03-31 8:14 ` Antonin Godard 2026-03-31 9:00 ` [docs] " Quentin Schulz 2026-03-31 8:14 ` [PATCH 2/2] doc/bitbake-user-manual-environment-setup.rst: replace shell blocks by console Antonin Godard 1 sibling, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: Antonin Godard @ 2026-03-31 8:14 UTC (permalink / raw) To: bitbake-devel; +Cc: Thomas Petazzoni, docs, Antonin Godard As per [1], do not use the word "abort" and replace it with "halt" for the rebase conflicts strategy. This is something we try to follow in our documentation. [1]: https://inclusivenaming.org/word-lists/tier-1/abort/ Signed-off-by: Antonin Godard <antonin.godard@bootlin.com> --- bin/bitbake-setup | 8 ++++---- doc/bitbake-user-manual/bitbake-user-manual-environment-setup.rst | 6 +++--- doc/bitbake-user-manual/bitbake-user-manual-fetching.rst | 2 +- lib/bb/tests/setup.py | 8 ++++---- 4 files changed, 12 insertions(+), 12 deletions(-) diff --git a/bin/bitbake-setup b/bin/bitbake-setup index b02cbc2b1c4..33cbefb4914 100755 --- a/bin/bitbake-setup +++ b/bin/bitbake-setup @@ -167,7 +167,7 @@ def _get_remotes(r_remote): return remotes -def checkout_layers(layers, confdir, layerdir, d, rebase_conflicts_strategy='abort'): +def checkout_layers(layers, confdir, layerdir, d, rebase_conflicts_strategy='halt'): def _checkout_git_remote(r_remote, repodir, layers_fixed_revisions): rev = r_remote['rev'] branch = r_remote.get('branch', None) @@ -458,7 +458,7 @@ def merge_overrides_into_sources(sources, overrides): layers[k] = v return layers -def update_build(config, confdir, setupdir, layerdir, d, update_bb_conf="prompt", init_vscode=False, rebase_conflicts_strategy='abort'): +def update_build(config, confdir, setupdir, layerdir, d, update_bb_conf="prompt", init_vscode=False, rebase_conflicts_strategy='halt'): layer_config = merge_overrides_into_sources(config["data"]["sources"], config["source-overrides"]["sources"]) sources_fixed_revisions = checkout_layers(layer_config, confdir, layerdir, d, rebase_conflicts_strategy=rebase_conflicts_strategy) bitbake_config = config["bitbake-config"] @@ -1273,9 +1273,9 @@ def main(): parser_update = subparsers.add_parser('update', help='Update a setup to be in sync with configuration') add_setup_dir_arg(parser_update) parser_update.add_argument('--update-bb-conf', choices=['prompt', 'yes', 'no'], default='prompt', help='Update bitbake configuration files (bblayers.conf, local.conf) (default: prompt)') - parser_update.add_argument('--rebase-conflicts-strategy', choices=['abort', 'backup'], default='abort', + parser_update.add_argument('--rebase-conflicts-strategy', choices=['halt', 'backup'], default='halt', help="What to do when a layer repository has local modifications that prevent " - "an in-place update: 'abort' (default) aborts with an error message; " + "an in-place update: 'halt' (default) halts with an error message; " "'backup' renames the directory to a timestamped backup and re-clones from upstream.") parser_update.set_defaults(func=build_update) diff --git a/doc/bitbake-user-manual/bitbake-user-manual-environment-setup.rst b/doc/bitbake-user-manual/bitbake-user-manual-environment-setup.rst index c22e19bd665..c7b73001404 100644 --- a/doc/bitbake-user-manual/bitbake-user-manual-environment-setup.rst +++ b/doc/bitbake-user-manual/bitbake-user-manual-environment-setup.rst @@ -458,9 +458,9 @@ In addition, the command can take the following arguments: local modifications or commits that prevent an in-place update. Accepted values are: - - ``abort`` (default): stop with an error message describing the problem. + - ``halt`` (default): stop with an error message describing the problem. The repository is left in its previous state (the failed rebase is - automatically aborted). The error message includes a hint to re-run with + automatically halted). The error message includes a hint to re-run with ``--rebase-conflicts-strategy=backup``. - ``backup``: rename the conflicting layer directory to a timestamped ``<name>-backup-<timestamp>`` path (preserving local work), then @@ -523,7 +523,7 @@ In addition, the command can take the following arguments: - This example shows what happens when a layer directory contains local commits that conflict with the incoming upstream changes. The failed rebase - is automatically aborted, and the ``dldir`` remote is left in the repository + is automatically halted, and the ``dldir`` remote is left in the repository for manual resolution: .. code-block:: shell diff --git a/doc/bitbake-user-manual/bitbake-user-manual-fetching.rst b/doc/bitbake-user-manual/bitbake-user-manual-fetching.rst index c2747c40124..fbfc9600f12 100644 --- a/doc/bitbake-user-manual/bitbake-user-manual-fetching.rst +++ b/doc/bitbake-user-manual/bitbake-user-manual-fetching.rst @@ -223,7 +223,7 @@ The method raises an error if: - The working tree contains staged or unstaged changes to tracked files (``LocalModificationsError``). - Local commits cannot be cleanly rebased onto the new upstream - revision (``RebaseError``). A failed rebase is automatically aborted + revision (``RebaseError``). A failed rebase is automatically halted before the exception is raised. - The download cache does not contain a sufficiently recent clone of the repository, or the checkout is a shallow clone. diff --git a/lib/bb/tests/setup.py b/lib/bb/tests/setup.py index 638d56d3bb3..c85013eb4d4 100644 --- a/lib/bb/tests/setup.py +++ b/lib/bb/tests/setup.py @@ -639,14 +639,14 @@ print("BBPATH is {{}}".format(os.environ["BBPATH"])) """Test the --rebase-conflicts-strategy option for the update command. Covers three scenarios not exercised by test_setup: - 1. Uncommitted tracked-file change (LocalModificationsError) + default 'abort' + 1. Uncommitted tracked-file change (LocalModificationsError) + default 'halt' strategy → clean error message containing 'has uncommitted changes' and a hint at --rebase-conflicts-strategy=backup; no backup directory is created. 2. Same uncommitted change + 'backup' strategy → directory is renamed to a timestamped backup and the layer is re-cloned cleanly. 3. Committed local change that conflicts with an incoming upstream commit (RebaseError): - a. Default 'abort' strategy → error containing 'Merge conflict' and the + a. Default 'halt' strategy → error containing 'Merge conflict' and the --rebase-conflicts-strategy=backup hint; no backup directory is created. b. 'backup' strategy → backup + re-clone instead of a hard failure. """ @@ -663,7 +663,7 @@ print("BBPATH is {{}}".format(os.environ["BBPATH"])) layer_path = os.path.join(setuppath, 'layers', 'test-repo') layers_path = os.path.join(setuppath, 'layers') - # Scenario 1: uncommitted tracked change, default 'abort' strategy + # Scenario 1: uncommitted tracked change, default 'halt' strategy # Advance upstream so an update is required. self.add_file_to_testrepo('test-file', 'upstream-v2\n') # Modify the same tracked file in the layer without committing. @@ -677,7 +677,7 @@ print("BBPATH is {{}}".format(os.environ["BBPATH"])) self.assertIn('--rebase-conflicts-strategy=backup', str(ctx.exception)) # No backup directory must have been created. self.assertEqual(self._count_layer_backups(layers_path), 0, - "abort strategy must not create any backup") + "halt strategy must not create any backup") # Scenario 2: same uncommitted change, 'backup' strategy out = self.runbbsetup("update --update-bb-conf='no' --rebase-conflicts-strategy=backup") -- 2.53.0 ^ permalink raw reply related [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: [docs] [PATCH 1/2] bitbake-setup: rename "abort" rebase conflict stragegy to "halt" 2026-03-31 8:14 ` [PATCH 1/2] bitbake-setup: rename "abort" rebase conflict stragegy to "halt" Antonin Godard @ 2026-03-31 9:00 ` Quentin Schulz 2026-03-31 10:43 ` Richard Purdie 0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: Quentin Schulz @ 2026-03-31 9:00 UTC (permalink / raw) To: antonin.godard, bitbake-devel; +Cc: Thomas Petazzoni, docs Hi Antonin, On 3/31/26 10:14 AM, Antonin Godard via lists.yoctoproject.org wrote: > As per [1], do not use the word "abort" and replace it with "halt" for > the rebase conflicts strategy. This is something we try to follow in our > documentation. > > [1]: https://inclusivenaming.org/word-lists/tier-1/abort/ > > Signed-off-by: Antonin Godard <antonin.godard@bootlin.com> > --- > bin/bitbake-setup | 8 ++++---- > doc/bitbake-user-manual/bitbake-user-manual-environment-setup.rst | 6 +++--- > doc/bitbake-user-manual/bitbake-user-manual-fetching.rst | 2 +- > lib/bb/tests/setup.py | 8 ++++---- > 4 files changed, 12 insertions(+), 12 deletions(-) > > diff --git a/bin/bitbake-setup b/bin/bitbake-setup > index b02cbc2b1c4..33cbefb4914 100755 > --- a/bin/bitbake-setup > +++ b/bin/bitbake-setup > @@ -167,7 +167,7 @@ def _get_remotes(r_remote): > > return remotes > > -def checkout_layers(layers, confdir, layerdir, d, rebase_conflicts_strategy='abort'): > +def checkout_layers(layers, confdir, layerdir, d, rebase_conflicts_strategy='halt'): > def _checkout_git_remote(r_remote, repodir, layers_fixed_revisions): > rev = r_remote['rev'] > branch = r_remote.get('branch', None) > @@ -458,7 +458,7 @@ def merge_overrides_into_sources(sources, overrides): > layers[k] = v > return layers > > -def update_build(config, confdir, setupdir, layerdir, d, update_bb_conf="prompt", init_vscode=False, rebase_conflicts_strategy='abort'): > +def update_build(config, confdir, setupdir, layerdir, d, update_bb_conf="prompt", init_vscode=False, rebase_conflicts_strategy='halt'): > layer_config = merge_overrides_into_sources(config["data"]["sources"], config["source-overrides"]["sources"]) > sources_fixed_revisions = checkout_layers(layer_config, confdir, layerdir, d, rebase_conflicts_strategy=rebase_conflicts_strategy) > bitbake_config = config["bitbake-config"] > @@ -1273,9 +1273,9 @@ def main(): > parser_update = subparsers.add_parser('update', help='Update a setup to be in sync with configuration') > add_setup_dir_arg(parser_update) > parser_update.add_argument('--update-bb-conf', choices=['prompt', 'yes', 'no'], default='prompt', help='Update bitbake configuration files (bblayers.conf, local.conf) (default: prompt)') > - parser_update.add_argument('--rebase-conflicts-strategy', choices=['abort', 'backup'], default='abort', > + parser_update.add_argument('--rebase-conflicts-strategy', choices=['halt', 'backup'], default='halt', > help="What to do when a layer repository has local modifications that prevent " > - "an in-place update: 'abort' (default) aborts with an error message; " > + "an in-place update: 'halt' (default) halts with an error message; " > "'backup' renames the directory to a timestamped backup and re-clones from upstream.") > parser_update.set_defaults(func=build_update) > > diff --git a/doc/bitbake-user-manual/bitbake-user-manual-environment-setup.rst b/doc/bitbake-user-manual/bitbake-user-manual-environment-setup.rst > index c22e19bd665..c7b73001404 100644 > --- a/doc/bitbake-user-manual/bitbake-user-manual-environment-setup.rst > +++ b/doc/bitbake-user-manual/bitbake-user-manual-environment-setup.rst > @@ -458,9 +458,9 @@ In addition, the command can take the following arguments: > local modifications or commits that prevent an in-place update. Accepted > values are: > > - - ``abort`` (default): stop with an error message describing the problem. > + - ``halt`` (default): stop with an error message describing the problem. > The repository is left in its previous state (the failed rebase is > - automatically aborted). The error message includes a hint to re-run with > + automatically halted). The error message includes a hint to re-run with This is not what halt means. Maybe 'reset' would be a better choice? Or if you really want to follow the recommendations from that website, I guess "cancel"? Cheers, Quentin ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: [docs] [PATCH 1/2] bitbake-setup: rename "abort" rebase conflict stragegy to "halt" 2026-03-31 9:00 ` [docs] " Quentin Schulz @ 2026-03-31 10:43 ` Richard Purdie 2026-03-31 11:36 ` [bitbake-devel] " Alexander Kanavin 0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: Richard Purdie @ 2026-03-31 10:43 UTC (permalink / raw) To: quentin.schulz, antonin.godard, bitbake-devel; +Cc: Thomas Petazzoni, docs On Tue, 2026-03-31 at 11:00 +0200, Quentin Schulz via lists.yoctoproject.org wrote: > Hi Antonin, > > On 3/31/26 10:14 AM, Antonin Godard via lists.yoctoproject.org wrote: > > As per [1], do not use the word "abort" and replace it with "halt" for > > the rebase conflicts strategy. This is something we try to follow in our > > documentation. > > > > [1]: https://inclusivenaming.org/word-lists/tier-1/abort/ > > > > Signed-off-by: Antonin Godard <antonin.godard@bootlin.com> > > --- > > bin/bitbake-setup | 8 ++++---- > > doc/bitbake-user-manual/bitbake-user-manual-environment-setup.rst | 6 +++--- > > doc/bitbake-user-manual/bitbake-user-manual-fetching.rst | 2 +- > > lib/bb/tests/setup.py | 8 ++++---- > > 4 files changed, 12 insertions(+), 12 deletions(-) > > > > diff --git a/bin/bitbake-setup b/bin/bitbake-setup > > index b02cbc2b1c4..33cbefb4914 100755 > > --- a/bin/bitbake-setup > > +++ b/bin/bitbake-setup > > @@ -167,7 +167,7 @@ def _get_remotes(r_remote): > > > > return remotes > > > > -def checkout_layers(layers, confdir, layerdir, d, rebase_conflicts_strategy='abort'): > > +def checkout_layers(layers, confdir, layerdir, d, rebase_conflicts_strategy='halt'): > > def _checkout_git_remote(r_remote, repodir, layers_fixed_revisions): > > rev = r_remote['rev'] > > branch = r_remote.get('branch', None) > > @@ -458,7 +458,7 @@ def merge_overrides_into_sources(sources, overrides): > > layers[k] = v > > return layers > > > > -def update_build(config, confdir, setupdir, layerdir, d, update_bb_conf="prompt", init_vscode=False, rebase_conflicts_strategy='abort'): > > +def update_build(config, confdir, setupdir, layerdir, d, update_bb_conf="prompt", init_vscode=False, rebase_conflicts_strategy='halt'): > > layer_config = merge_overrides_into_sources(config["data"]["sources"], config["source-overrides"]["sources"]) > > sources_fixed_revisions = checkout_layers(layer_config, confdir, layerdir, d, rebase_conflicts_strategy=rebase_conflicts_strategy) > > bitbake_config = config["bitbake-config"] > > @@ -1273,9 +1273,9 @@ def main(): > > parser_update = subparsers.add_parser('update', help='Update a setup to be in sync with configuration') > > add_setup_dir_arg(parser_update) > > parser_update.add_argument('--update-bb-conf', choices=['prompt', 'yes', 'no'], default='prompt', help='Update bitbake configuration files (bblayers.conf, local.conf) (default: prompt)') > > - parser_update.add_argument('--rebase-conflicts-strategy', choices=['abort', 'backup'], default='abort', > > + parser_update.add_argument('--rebase-conflicts-strategy', choices=['halt', 'backup'], default='halt', > > help="What to do when a layer repository has local modifications that prevent " > > - "an in-place update: 'abort' (default) aborts with an error message; " > > + "an in-place update: 'halt' (default) halts with an error message; " > > "'backup' renames the directory to a timestamped backup and re-clones from upstream.") > > parser_update.set_defaults(func=build_update) > > > > diff --git a/doc/bitbake-user-manual/bitbake-user-manual-environment-setup.rst b/doc/bitbake-user-manual/bitbake-user-manual-environment-setup.rst > > index c22e19bd665..c7b73001404 100644 > > --- a/doc/bitbake-user-manual/bitbake-user-manual-environment-setup.rst > > +++ b/doc/bitbake-user-manual/bitbake-user-manual-environment-setup.rst > > @@ -458,9 +458,9 @@ In addition, the command can take the following arguments: > > local modifications or commits that prevent an in-place update. Accepted > > values are: > > > > - - ``abort`` (default): stop with an error message describing the problem. > > + - ``halt`` (default): stop with an error message describing the problem. > > The repository is left in its previous state (the failed rebase is > > - automatically aborted). The error message includes a hint to re-run with > > + automatically halted). The error message includes a hint to re-run with > > This is not what halt means. Maybe 'reset' would be a better choice? Or > if you really want to follow the recommendations from that website, I > guess "cancel"? The trouble is none of these alternatives really match what abort means, reset and cancel do mean something different. "abandon" might be closer but still isn't right. "attempt" maybe? If we get too creative with this, users just won't understand what it means :( Cheers, Richard ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: [bitbake-devel] [docs] [PATCH 1/2] bitbake-setup: rename "abort" rebase conflict stragegy to "halt" 2026-03-31 10:43 ` Richard Purdie @ 2026-03-31 11:36 ` Alexander Kanavin 2026-04-03 8:07 ` Antonin Godard 0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: Alexander Kanavin @ 2026-03-31 11:36 UTC (permalink / raw) To: richard.purdie Cc: quentin.schulz, antonin.godard, bitbake-devel, Thomas Petazzoni, docs [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 5842 bytes --] There’s a simpler rationale too: this follows ‘git rebase —abort’. If git upstream finds a better word, we will follow. And I agree that all of the proposed alternatives are less accurate. Alex On Tue 31. Mar 2026 at 12.43, Richard Purdie via lists.openembedded.org <richard.purdie=linuxfoundation.org@lists.openembedded.org> wrote: > On Tue, 2026-03-31 at 11:00 +0200, Quentin Schulz via > lists.yoctoproject.org wrote: > > Hi Antonin, > > > > On 3/31/26 10:14 AM, Antonin Godard via lists.yoctoproject.org wrote: > > > As per [1], do not use the word "abort" and replace it with "halt" for > > > the rebase conflicts strategy. This is something we try to follow in > our > > > documentation. > > > > > > [1]: https://inclusivenaming.org/word-lists/tier-1/abort/ > > > > > > Signed-off-by: Antonin Godard <antonin.godard@bootlin.com> > > > --- > > > bin/bitbake-setup | > 8 ++++---- > > > doc/bitbake-user-manual/bitbake-user-manual-environment-setup.rst | > 6 +++--- > > > doc/bitbake-user-manual/bitbake-user-manual-fetching.rst | > 2 +- > > > lib/bb/tests/setup.py | > 8 ++++---- > > > 4 files changed, 12 insertions(+), 12 deletions(-) > > > > > > diff --git a/bin/bitbake-setup b/bin/bitbake-setup > > > index b02cbc2b1c4..33cbefb4914 100755 > > > --- a/bin/bitbake-setup > > > +++ b/bin/bitbake-setup > > > @@ -167,7 +167,7 @@ def _get_remotes(r_remote): > > > > > > return remotes > > > > > > -def checkout_layers(layers, confdir, layerdir, d, > rebase_conflicts_strategy='abort'): > > > +def checkout_layers(layers, confdir, layerdir, d, > rebase_conflicts_strategy='halt'): > > > def _checkout_git_remote(r_remote, repodir, > layers_fixed_revisions): > > > rev = r_remote['rev'] > > > branch = r_remote.get('branch', None) > > > @@ -458,7 +458,7 @@ def merge_overrides_into_sources(sources, > overrides): > > > layers[k] = v > > > return layers > > > > > > -def update_build(config, confdir, setupdir, layerdir, d, > update_bb_conf="prompt", init_vscode=False, > rebase_conflicts_strategy='abort'): > > > +def update_build(config, confdir, setupdir, layerdir, d, > update_bb_conf="prompt", init_vscode=False, > rebase_conflicts_strategy='halt'): > > > layer_config = > merge_overrides_into_sources(config["data"]["sources"], > config["source-overrides"]["sources"]) > > > sources_fixed_revisions = checkout_layers(layer_config, confdir, > layerdir, d, rebase_conflicts_strategy=rebase_conflicts_strategy) > > > bitbake_config = config["bitbake-config"] > > > @@ -1273,9 +1273,9 @@ def main(): > > > parser_update = subparsers.add_parser('update', help='Update a > setup to be in sync with configuration') > > > add_setup_dir_arg(parser_update) > > > parser_update.add_argument('--update-bb-conf', > choices=['prompt', 'yes', 'no'], default='prompt', help='Update bitbake > configuration files (bblayers.conf, local.conf) (default: prompt)') > > > - parser_update.add_argument('--rebase-conflicts-strategy', > choices=['abort', 'backup'], default='abort', > > > + parser_update.add_argument('--rebase-conflicts-strategy', > choices=['halt', 'backup'], default='halt', > > > help="What to do when a layer repository has > local modifications that prevent " > > > - "an in-place update: 'abort' (default) > aborts with an error message; " > > > + "an in-place update: 'halt' (default) > halts with an error message; " > > > "'backup' renames the directory to a > timestamped backup and re-clones from upstream.") > > > parser_update.set_defaults(func=build_update) > > > > > > diff --git > a/doc/bitbake-user-manual/bitbake-user-manual-environment-setup.rst > b/doc/bitbake-user-manual/bitbake-user-manual-environment-setup.rst > > > index c22e19bd665..c7b73001404 100644 > > > --- a/doc/bitbake-user-manual/bitbake-user-manual-environment-setup.rst > > > +++ b/doc/bitbake-user-manual/bitbake-user-manual-environment-setup.rst > > > @@ -458,9 +458,9 @@ In addition, the command can take the following > arguments: > > > local modifications or commits that prevent an in-place update. > Accepted > > > values are: > > > > > > - - ``abort`` (default): stop with an error message describing the > problem. > > > + - ``halt`` (default): stop with an error message describing the > problem. > > > The repository is left in its previous state (the failed > rebase is > > > - automatically aborted). The error message includes a hint to > re-run with > > > + automatically halted). The error message includes a hint to > re-run with > > > > This is not what halt means. Maybe 'reset' would be a better choice? Or > > if you really want to follow the recommendations from that website, I > > guess "cancel"? > > The trouble is none of these alternatives really match what abort > means, reset and cancel do mean something different. "abandon" might be > closer but still isn't right. "attempt" maybe? If we get too creative > with this, users just won't understand what it means :( > > Cheers, > > Richard > > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. > View/Reply Online (#19290): > https://lists.openembedded.org/g/bitbake-devel/message/19290 > Mute This Topic: https://lists.openembedded.org/mt/118593422/1686489 > Group Owner: bitbake-devel+owner@lists.openembedded.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.openembedded.org/g/bitbake-devel/unsub [ > alex.kanavin@gmail.com] > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > > [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 8265 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: [bitbake-devel] [docs] [PATCH 1/2] bitbake-setup: rename "abort" rebase conflict stragegy to "halt" 2026-03-31 11:36 ` [bitbake-devel] " Alexander Kanavin @ 2026-04-03 8:07 ` Antonin Godard 2026-04-03 10:04 ` Alexander Kanavin 0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: Antonin Godard @ 2026-04-03 8:07 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Alexander Kanavin, richard.purdie Cc: quentin.schulz, bitbake-devel, Thomas Petazzoni, docs On Tue Mar 31, 2026 at 1:36 PM CEST, Alexander Kanavin wrote: > There’s a simpler rationale too: this follows ‘git rebase —abort’. If git > upstream finds a better word, we will follow. And I agree that all of the > proposed alternatives are less accurate. This goes against previous efforts to convert the documentation and other components to not use these words :/ https://lists.openembedded.org/g/openembedded-architecture/topic/inclusive_language_summary/75821819 [...] >> > This is not what halt means. Maybe 'reset' would be a better choice? Or >> > if you really want to follow the recommendations from that website, I >> > guess "cancel"? >> >> The trouble is none of these alternatives really match what abort >> means, reset and cancel do mean something different. "abandon" might be >> closer but still isn't right. "attempt" maybe? If we get too creative >> with this, users just won't understand what it means :( I had the impression, from the documentation, that bitbake-setup would leave the repository in the middle of a rebase, to let you deal with conflict, and then continue on the next bitbake-setup update call. It appears to use --abort instead, so a misunderstanding from my part. Out of these options, I think "reset" might be the best one, I agree with Quentin. But I'm not a native speaker, so I might not have an understanding as subtle as others. I'll let Richard decide on what to do here. Antonin ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: [bitbake-devel] [docs] [PATCH 1/2] bitbake-setup: rename "abort" rebase conflict stragegy to "halt" 2026-04-03 8:07 ` Antonin Godard @ 2026-04-03 10:04 ` Alexander Kanavin 2026-04-03 10:16 ` Richard Purdie 0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: Alexander Kanavin @ 2026-04-03 10:04 UTC (permalink / raw) To: antonin.godard Cc: richard.purdie, quentin.schulz, bitbake-devel, Thomas Petazzoni, docs [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 2543 bytes --] The trouble with ‘reset’ is that it means resetting the whole system to its initial state. ‘Abort’ is about a stopping a particular operation such that the system is returned to the state before the operation started. I have no idea how INI has utterly failed to catch these nuances in its rationale you linked, and is even accusing the term of ‘lacking technical clarity’, but it certainly doesn’t help the cause. Alex On Fri 3. Apr 2026 at 10.07, Antonin Godard via lists.yoctoproject.org <antonin.godard=bootlin.com@lists.yoctoproject.org> wrote: > On Tue Mar 31, 2026 at 1:36 PM CEST, Alexander Kanavin wrote: > > There’s a simpler rationale too: this follows ‘git rebase —abort’. If git > > upstream finds a better word, we will follow. And I agree that all of the > > proposed alternatives are less accurate. > > This goes against previous efforts to convert the documentation and other > components to not use these words :/ > > https://lists.openembedded.org/g/openembedded-architecture/topic/inclusive_language_summary/75821819 > > [...] > >> > This is not what halt means. Maybe 'reset' would be a better choice? > Or > >> > if you really want to follow the recommendations from that website, I > >> > guess "cancel"? > >> > >> The trouble is none of these alternatives really match what abort > >> means, reset and cancel do mean something different. "abandon" might be > >> closer but still isn't right. "attempt" maybe? If we get too creative > >> with this, users just won't understand what it means :( > > I had the impression, from the documentation, that bitbake-setup would > leave the > repository in the middle of a rebase, to let you deal with conflict, and > then > continue on the next bitbake-setup update call. > > It appears to use --abort instead, so a misunderstanding from my part. > > Out of these options, I think "reset" might be the best one, I agree with > Quentin. But I'm not a native speaker, so I might not have an > understanding as > subtle as others. > > I'll let Richard decide on what to do here. > > Antonin > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. > View/Reply Online (#9173): > https://lists.yoctoproject.org/g/docs/message/9173 > Mute This Topic: https://lists.yoctoproject.org/mt/118594590/1686489 > Group Owner: docs+owner@lists.yoctoproject.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.yoctoproject.org/g/docs/unsub [ > alex.kanavin@gmail.com] > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > > [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 3859 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: [bitbake-devel] [docs] [PATCH 1/2] bitbake-setup: rename "abort" rebase conflict stragegy to "halt" 2026-04-03 10:04 ` Alexander Kanavin @ 2026-04-03 10:16 ` Richard Purdie 2026-04-04 7:34 ` Adam Blank 0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: Richard Purdie @ 2026-04-03 10:16 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Alexander Kanavin, antonin.godard Cc: quentin.schulz, bitbake-devel, Thomas Petazzoni, docs On Fri, 2026-04-03 at 12:04 +0200, Alexander Kanavin wrote: > The trouble with ‘reset’ is that it means resetting the whole system > to its initial state. ‘Abort’ is about a stopping a particular > operation such that the system is returned to the state before the > operation started. > > I have no idea how INI has utterly failed to catch these nuances in > its rationale you linked, and is even accusing the term of ‘lacking > technical clarity’, but it certainly doesn’t help the cause. "reset" also struggles as "git reset" means something quite different. "attempt" is probably the closest other option we have since that describes what it does rather than the way it recovers, the recovery is then just implied. I am torn on this, I recognise the concern around the word, equally, the word does have two meanings and we do clearly fit one of the cases, as Alex mentions, we are inheriting the issue from git too. I fear any change we make here will hurt usability. Cheers, Richard ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: [bitbake-devel] [docs] [PATCH 1/2] bitbake-setup: rename "abort" rebase conflict stragegy to "halt" 2026-04-03 10:16 ` Richard Purdie @ 2026-04-04 7:34 ` Adam Blank 2026-04-04 15:33 ` Alexander Kanavin 0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: Adam Blank @ 2026-04-04 7:34 UTC (permalink / raw) To: docs [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 263 bytes --] Personally I don't have any specific preference, but as a hint for you guys: for a non-native English speaker (of a Slavic origin at least), "abandon" would convey a practically identical sense to "abort" and would be some sort of a compromise. Thanks, Adam [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 313 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: [bitbake-devel] [docs] [PATCH 1/2] bitbake-setup: rename "abort" rebase conflict stragegy to "halt" 2026-04-04 7:34 ` Adam Blank @ 2026-04-04 15:33 ` Alexander Kanavin 2026-04-04 15:58 ` Adam Blank 0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: Alexander Kanavin @ 2026-04-04 15:33 UTC (permalink / raw) To: adam.blank.g; +Cc: docs [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 919 bytes --] ‘Abandon’ doesn’t revert the state to how it was. It just leaves the mess as it is. Alex On Sat 4. Apr 2026 at 9.34, Adam Blank via lists.yoctoproject.org <adam.blank.g=gmail.com@lists.yoctoproject.org> wrote: > Personally I don't have any specific preference, but as a hint for you > guys: for a non-native English speaker (of a Slavic origin at least), > "abandon" would convey a practically identical sense to "abort" and would > be some sort of a compromise. > > Thanks, > Adam > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. > View/Reply Online (#9177): > https://lists.yoctoproject.org/g/docs/message/9177 > Mute This Topic: https://lists.yoctoproject.org/mt/118594590/1686489 > Group Owner: docs+owner@lists.yoctoproject.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.yoctoproject.org/g/docs/unsub [ > alex.kanavin@gmail.com] > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > > [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 1854 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: [bitbake-devel] [docs] [PATCH 1/2] bitbake-setup: rename "abort" rebase conflict stragegy to "halt" 2026-04-04 15:33 ` Alexander Kanavin @ 2026-04-04 15:58 ` Adam Blank 2026-04-04 16:16 ` Alexander Kanavin [not found] ` <18A333954F38AD11.657799@lists.yoctoproject.org> 0 siblings, 2 replies; 17+ messages in thread From: Adam Blank @ 2026-04-04 15:58 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Alexander Kanavin; +Cc: docs [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1556 bytes --] On Sat, 4 Apr 2026, 17:34 Alexander Kanavin, <alex.kanavin@gmail.com> wrote: > ‘Abandon’ doesn’t revert the state to how it was. It just leaves the mess > as it is. > > After Merriam-Webster: Abort means to stop, cancel, or terminate a process, project, or mission before its completion. It is often used to describe abandoning a dangerous or flawed plan (e.g., "abort the mission") or ending a pregnancy prematurely. It also refers to a technical stoppage in computing or aerospace. Synonyms for Abort: Terminate/Stop: Halt, end, cease, discontinue, break off. Cancel/Abandon: Scrub, scrap, call off, abandon. 'Abort' carries no notion of reverting the mess either. > Alex > > On Sat 4. Apr 2026 at 9.34, Adam Blank via lists.yoctoproject.org > <adam.blank.g=gmail.com@lists.yoctoproject.org> wrote: > >> Personally I don't have any specific preference, but as a hint for you >> guys: for a non-native English speaker (of a Slavic origin at least), >> "abandon" would convey a practically identical sense to "abort" and would >> be some sort of a compromise. >> >> Thanks, >> Adam >> >> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- >> Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. >> View/Reply Online (#9177): >> https://lists.yoctoproject.org/g/docs/message/9177 >> Mute This Topic: https://lists.yoctoproject.org/mt/118594590/1686489 >> Group Owner: docs+owner@lists.yoctoproject.org >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.yoctoproject.org/g/docs/unsub [ >> alex.kanavin@gmail.com] >> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- >> >> >> [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 3305 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: [bitbake-devel] [docs] [PATCH 1/2] bitbake-setup: rename "abort" rebase conflict stragegy to "halt" 2026-04-04 15:58 ` Adam Blank @ 2026-04-04 16:16 ` Alexander Kanavin 2026-04-04 16:25 ` Adam Blank [not found] ` <18A333954F38AD11.657799@lists.yoctoproject.org> 1 sibling, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: Alexander Kanavin @ 2026-04-04 16:16 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Adam Blank; +Cc: docs [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1828 bytes --] Please include a link to any citations. Because this is not what it says: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/abort Alex On Sat 4. Apr 2026 at 17.58, Adam Blank <adam.blank.g@gmail.com> wrote: > On Sat, 4 Apr 2026, 17:34 Alexander Kanavin, <alex.kanavin@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> ‘Abandon’ doesn’t revert the state to how it was. It just leaves the mess >> as it is. >> >> > After Merriam-Webster: > > Abort means to stop, cancel, or terminate a process, project, or mission > before its completion. It is often used to describe abandoning a dangerous > or flawed plan (e.g., "abort the mission") or ending a pregnancy > prematurely. It also refers to a technical stoppage in computing or > aerospace. > > Synonyms for Abort: > Terminate/Stop: Halt, end, cease, discontinue, break off. > Cancel/Abandon: Scrub, scrap, call off, abandon. > > 'Abort' carries no notion of reverting the mess either. > > >> Alex >> >> On Sat 4. Apr 2026 at 9.34, Adam Blank via lists.yoctoproject.org >> <adam.blank.g=gmail.com@lists.yoctoproject.org> wrote: >> >>> Personally I don't have any specific preference, but as a hint for you >>> guys: for a non-native English speaker (of a Slavic origin at least), >>> "abandon" would convey a practically identical sense to "abort" and would >>> be some sort of a compromise. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Adam >>> >>> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- >>> Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. >>> View/Reply Online (#9177): >>> https://lists.yoctoproject.org/g/docs/message/9177 >>> Mute This Topic: https://lists.yoctoproject.org/mt/118594590/1686489 >>> Group Owner: docs+owner@lists.yoctoproject.org >>> Unsubscribe: https://lists.yoctoproject.org/g/docs/unsub [ >>> alex.kanavin@gmail.com] >>> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- >>> >>> >>> [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 4318 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: [bitbake-devel] [docs] [PATCH 1/2] bitbake-setup: rename "abort" rebase conflict stragegy to "halt" 2026-04-04 16:16 ` Alexander Kanavin @ 2026-04-04 16:25 ` Adam Blank 0 siblings, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread From: Adam Blank @ 2026-04-04 16:25 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Alexander Kanavin; +Cc: docs [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 2385 bytes --] That's a digest collected by Google's AI (formerly known as Google Dictionary) from a number of dictionaries (it refers to Merriam-Webster, Collins, Vocabulary.com and Cambridge Dictionary to name some). My quotation came directly from it. I have verified that this link is not personallised, so you also should be able to see what I see in it: https://share.google/aimode/jeaW8oAhhQAOL4d0A Thanks, Adam On Sat, 4 Apr 2026, 18:16 Alexander Kanavin, <alex.kanavin@gmail.com> wrote: > Please include a link to any citations. Because this is not what it says: > https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/abort > > > Alex > > On Sat 4. Apr 2026 at 17.58, Adam Blank <adam.blank.g@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On Sat, 4 Apr 2026, 17:34 Alexander Kanavin, <alex.kanavin@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> ‘Abandon’ doesn’t revert the state to how it was. It just leaves the >>> mess as it is. >>> >>> >> After Merriam-Webster: >> >> Abort means to stop, cancel, or terminate a process, project, or mission >> before its completion. It is often used to describe abandoning a dangerous >> or flawed plan (e.g., "abort the mission") or ending a pregnancy >> prematurely. It also refers to a technical stoppage in computing or >> aerospace. >> >> Synonyms for Abort: >> Terminate/Stop: Halt, end, cease, discontinue, break off. >> Cancel/Abandon: Scrub, scrap, call off, abandon. >> >> 'Abort' carries no notion of reverting the mess either. >> >> >>> Alex >>> >>> On Sat 4. Apr 2026 at 9.34, Adam Blank via lists.yoctoproject.org >>> <adam.blank.g=gmail.com@lists.yoctoproject.org> wrote: >>> >>>> Personally I don't have any specific preference, but as a hint for you >>>> guys: for a non-native English speaker (of a Slavic origin at least), >>>> "abandon" would convey a practically identical sense to "abort" and would >>>> be some sort of a compromise. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Adam >>>> >>>> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- >>>> Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. >>>> View/Reply Online (#9177): >>>> https://lists.yoctoproject.org/g/docs/message/9177 >>>> Mute This Topic: https://lists.yoctoproject.org/mt/118594590/1686489 >>>> Group Owner: docs+owner@lists.yoctoproject.org >>>> Unsubscribe: https://lists.yoctoproject.org/g/docs/unsub [ >>>> alex.kanavin@gmail.com] >>>> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- >>>> >>>> >>>> [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 5374 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
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* Re: [bitbake-devel] [docs] [PATCH 1/2] bitbake-setup: rename "abort" rebase conflict stragegy to "halt" [not found] ` <18A333954F38AD11.657799@lists.yoctoproject.org> @ 2026-04-04 16:29 ` Alexander Kanavin 2026-04-04 17:06 ` Adam Blank 0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: Alexander Kanavin @ 2026-04-04 16:29 UTC (permalink / raw) To: alex.kanavin; +Cc: Adam Blank, docs [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 2287 bytes --] Having read that, and the entry for ‘abandon’, there’s a clear difference between them. Abandoning is uncontrolled, dangerous and ungraceful. Abortion is the opposite, and does go back to a previous, ‘safe’ state in examples, if not in definition itself. Alex On Sat 4. Apr 2026 at 18.16, Alexander Kanavin via lists.yoctoproject.org <alex.kanavin=gmail.com@lists.yoctoproject.org> wrote: > Please include a link to any citations. Because this is not what it says: > https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/abort > > > Alex > > On Sat 4. Apr 2026 at 17.58, Adam Blank <adam.blank.g@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On Sat, 4 Apr 2026, 17:34 Alexander Kanavin, <alex.kanavin@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> ‘Abandon’ doesn’t revert the state to how it was. It just leaves the >>> mess as it is. >>> >>> >> After Merriam-Webster: >> >> Abort means to stop, cancel, or terminate a process, project, or mission >> before its completion. It is often used to describe abandoning a dangerous >> or flawed plan (e.g., "abort the mission") or ending a pregnancy >> prematurely. It also refers to a technical stoppage in computing or >> aerospace. >> >> Synonyms for Abort: >> Terminate/Stop: Halt, end, cease, discontinue, break off. >> Cancel/Abandon: Scrub, scrap, call off, abandon. >> >> 'Abort' carries no notion of reverting the mess either. >> >> >>> Alex >>> >>> On Sat 4. Apr 2026 at 9.34, Adam Blank via lists.yoctoproject.org >>> <adam.blank.g=gmail.com@lists.yoctoproject.org> wrote: >>> >>>> Personally I don't have any specific preference, but as a hint for you >>>> guys: for a non-native English speaker (of a Slavic origin at least), >>>> "abandon" would convey a practically identical sense to "abort" and would >>>> be some sort of a compromise. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Adam >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. > View/Reply Online (#9180): > https://lists.yoctoproject.org/g/docs/message/9180 > Mute This Topic: https://lists.yoctoproject.org/mt/118594590/1686489 > Group Owner: docs+owner@lists.yoctoproject.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.yoctoproject.org/g/docs/unsub [ > alex.kanavin@gmail.com] > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > > [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 5188 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: [bitbake-devel] [docs] [PATCH 1/2] bitbake-setup: rename "abort" rebase conflict stragegy to "halt" 2026-04-04 16:29 ` Alexander Kanavin @ 2026-04-04 17:06 ` Adam Blank 2026-04-04 17:13 ` Alexander Kanavin 0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: Adam Blank @ 2026-04-04 17:06 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Alexander Kanavin; +Cc: docs [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 2884 bytes --] On Sat, 4 Apr 2026 at 18:29, Alexander Kanavin <alex.kanavin@gmail.com> wrote: > Having read that, and the entry for ‘abandon’, there’s a clear difference > between them. > > Abandoning is uncontrolled, dangerous and ungraceful. Abortion is the > opposite, and does go back to a previous, ‘safe’ state in examples, if not > in definition itself. > > The trick with human languages is, that they are inherently subjective. It is not possible to analytically compare two ways in which a given word 'rings' to a human ear. The whole topic was not about the exact, dictionary defined meaning of the word 'abort', but rather about a human perception of it, and possibly undesired connotations it might invoke in some humans. I wanted to offer a helping hand, that all. Adam > Alex > > On Sat 4. Apr 2026 at 18.16, Alexander Kanavin via lists.yoctoproject.org > <alex.kanavin=gmail.com@lists.yoctoproject.org> wrote: > >> Please include a link to any citations. Because this is not what it says: >> https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/abort >> >> >> Alex >> >> On Sat 4. Apr 2026 at 17.58, Adam Blank <adam.blank.g@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> On Sat, 4 Apr 2026, 17:34 Alexander Kanavin, <alex.kanavin@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> ‘Abandon’ doesn’t revert the state to how it was. It just leaves the >>>> mess as it is. >>>> >>>> >>> After Merriam-Webster: >>> >>> Abort means to stop, cancel, or terminate a process, project, or mission >>> before its completion. It is often used to describe abandoning a dangerous >>> or flawed plan (e.g., "abort the mission") or ending a pregnancy >>> prematurely. It also refers to a technical stoppage in computing or >>> aerospace. >>> >>> Synonyms for Abort: >>> Terminate/Stop: Halt, end, cease, discontinue, break off. >>> Cancel/Abandon: Scrub, scrap, call off, abandon. >>> >>> 'Abort' carries no notion of reverting the mess either. >>> >>> >>>> Alex >>>> >>>> On Sat 4. Apr 2026 at 9.34, Adam Blank via lists.yoctoproject.org >>>> <adam.blank.g=gmail.com@lists.yoctoproject.org> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Personally I don't have any specific preference, but as a hint for you >>>>> guys: for a non-native English speaker (of a Slavic origin at least), >>>>> "abandon" would convey a practically identical sense to "abort" and would >>>>> be some sort of a compromise. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Adam >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- >> Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. >> View/Reply Online (#9180): >> https://lists.yoctoproject.org/g/docs/message/9180 >> Mute This Topic: https://lists.yoctoproject.org/mt/118594590/1686489 >> Group Owner: docs+owner@lists.yoctoproject.org >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.yoctoproject.org/g/docs/unsub [ >> alex.kanavin@gmail.com] >> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- >> >> [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 6240 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: [bitbake-devel] [docs] [PATCH 1/2] bitbake-setup: rename "abort" rebase conflict stragegy to "halt" 2026-04-04 17:06 ` Adam Blank @ 2026-04-04 17:13 ` Alexander Kanavin 0 siblings, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread From: Alexander Kanavin @ 2026-04-04 17:13 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Adam Blank; +Cc: docs [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 3207 bytes --] Equally, bitbake-setup will not abandon anything or anyone. That word has a clear, negative connotation in all of its usages (unlike abort). Alex On Sat 4. Apr 2026 at 19.06, Adam Blank <adam.blank.g@gmail.com> wrote: > On Sat, 4 Apr 2026 at 18:29, Alexander Kanavin <alex.kanavin@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Having read that, and the entry for ‘abandon’, there’s a clear difference >> between them. >> >> Abandoning is uncontrolled, dangerous and ungraceful. Abortion is the >> opposite, and does go back to a previous, ‘safe’ state in examples, if not >> in definition itself. >> >> > The trick with human languages is, that they are inherently subjective. It > is not possible to analytically compare two ways in which a given word > 'rings' to a human ear. > The whole topic was not about the exact, dictionary defined meaning of the > word 'abort', but rather about a human perception of it, and possibly > undesired connotations it might invoke in some humans. > I wanted to offer a helping hand, that all. > > Adam > > >> Alex >> >> On Sat 4. Apr 2026 at 18.16, Alexander Kanavin via lists.yoctoproject.org >> <alex.kanavin=gmail.com@lists.yoctoproject.org> wrote: >> >>> Please include a link to any citations. Because this is not what it says: >>> https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/abort >>> >>> >>> Alex >>> >>> On Sat 4. Apr 2026 at 17.58, Adam Blank <adam.blank.g@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> On Sat, 4 Apr 2026, 17:34 Alexander Kanavin, <alex.kanavin@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> ‘Abandon’ doesn’t revert the state to how it was. It just leaves the >>>>> mess as it is. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> After Merriam-Webster: >>>> >>>> Abort means to stop, cancel, or terminate a process, project, or >>>> mission before its completion. It is often used to describe abandoning a >>>> dangerous or flawed plan (e.g., "abort the mission") or ending a pregnancy >>>> prematurely. It also refers to a technical stoppage in computing or >>>> aerospace. >>>> >>>> Synonyms for Abort: >>>> Terminate/Stop: Halt, end, cease, discontinue, break off. >>>> Cancel/Abandon: Scrub, scrap, call off, abandon. >>>> >>>> 'Abort' carries no notion of reverting the mess either. >>>> >>>> >>>>> Alex >>>>> >>>>> On Sat 4. Apr 2026 at 9.34, Adam Blank via lists.yoctoproject.org >>>>> <adam.blank.g=gmail.com@lists.yoctoproject.org> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Personally I don't have any specific preference, but as a hint for >>>>>> you guys: for a non-native English speaker (of a Slavic origin at least), >>>>>> "abandon" would convey a practically identical sense to "abort" and would >>>>>> be some sort of a compromise. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> Adam >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- >>> Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. >>> View/Reply Online (#9180): >>> https://lists.yoctoproject.org/g/docs/message/9180 >>> Mute This Topic: https://lists.yoctoproject.org/mt/118594590/1686489 >>> Group Owner: docs+owner@lists.yoctoproject.org >>> Unsubscribe: https://lists.yoctoproject.org/g/docs/unsub [ >>> alex.kanavin@gmail.com] >>> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- >>> >>> [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 7205 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* [PATCH 2/2] doc/bitbake-user-manual-environment-setup.rst: replace shell blocks by console 2026-03-31 8:14 [PATCH 0/2] bitbake-setup docs fixes Antonin Godard 2026-03-31 8:14 ` [PATCH 1/2] bitbake-setup: rename "abort" rebase conflict stragegy to "halt" Antonin Godard @ 2026-03-31 8:14 ` Antonin Godard 1 sibling, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread From: Antonin Godard @ 2026-03-31 8:14 UTC (permalink / raw) To: bitbake-devel; +Cc: Thomas Petazzoni, docs, Antonin Godard The appropriate lexer to use for command examples is console, not shell. Replace all misuses of this lexer in this document. Signed-off-by: Antonin Godard <antonin.godard@bootlin.com> --- .../bitbake-user-manual-environment-setup.rst | 30 +++++++++++----------- 1 file changed, 15 insertions(+), 15 deletions(-) diff --git a/doc/bitbake-user-manual/bitbake-user-manual-environment-setup.rst b/doc/bitbake-user-manual/bitbake-user-manual-environment-setup.rst index c7b73001404..ece872ad26c 100644 --- a/doc/bitbake-user-manual/bitbake-user-manual-environment-setup.rst +++ b/doc/bitbake-user-manual/bitbake-user-manual-environment-setup.rst @@ -27,7 +27,7 @@ Quick Start #. If you haven't already, clone the BitBake repository: - .. code-block:: shell + .. code-block:: console $ git clone https://git.openembedded.org/bitbake @@ -36,7 +36,7 @@ Quick Start To start, run: - .. code-block:: shell + .. code-block:: console $ ./bitbake/bin/bitbake-setup init @@ -94,7 +94,7 @@ Quick Start #. Source the ``init-build-env`` file present in the :term:`BitBake Build` directory: - .. code-block:: shell + .. code-block:: console $ source ./poky-master-poky-distro_poky-machine_qemux86-64/build/init-build-env @@ -343,7 +343,7 @@ In addition, the command can take the following arguments: - This example prompts the user to choose a :term:`Configuration Template` from a custom registry: - .. code-block:: shell + .. code-block:: console $ ./bitbake/bin/bitbake-setup \ --setting default registry 'git://example.com/bitbake-setup-configurations.git;protocol=https;branch=main;rev=main' \ @@ -352,7 +352,7 @@ In addition, the command can take the following arguments: - This example takes a :term:`Configuration Template` from a remote location (here, one of the default configuration in BitBake): - .. code-block:: shell + .. code-block:: console $ ./bitbake/bin/bitbake-setup init https://git.openembedded.org/bitbake/plain/default-registry/configurations/oe-nodistro-master.conf.json @@ -363,7 +363,7 @@ In addition, the command can take the following arguments: - A standalone :term:`Configuration Template` file. - Choices passed on the command-line, applied non-interactively. - .. code-block:: shell + .. code-block:: console $ ./bitbake/bin/bitbake-setup \ --setting default top-dir-prefix /work/bitbake-setup \ @@ -477,7 +477,7 @@ In addition, the command can take the following arguments: environment. Local commits in any layer directory are rebased on top of the new upstream revision and preserved: - .. code-block:: shell + .. code-block:: console $ bitbake-setup update NOTE: Bitbake-setup is using /path/to/bitbake-builds as top directory. @@ -493,7 +493,7 @@ In addition, the command can take the following arguments: - This example shows what happens when a layer directory contains staged or unstaged changes to tracked files. The update is blocked with an error: - .. code-block:: shell + .. code-block:: console $ bitbake-setup update NOTE: Bitbake-setup is using /path/to/bitbake-builds as top directory. @@ -515,7 +515,7 @@ In addition, the command can take the following arguments: Stashing the changes and re-running resolves the issue: - .. code-block:: shell + .. code-block:: console $ git -C layers/openembedded-core stash $ bitbake-setup update @@ -526,7 +526,7 @@ In addition, the command can take the following arguments: is automatically halted, and the ``dldir`` remote is left in the repository for manual resolution: - .. code-block:: shell + .. code-block:: console $ bitbake-setup update ERROR: Repository at layers/openembedded-core has local commits that could @@ -539,7 +539,7 @@ In addition, the command can take the following arguments: The conflict can be resolved manually using the ``dldir`` remote that ``bitbake-setup`` adds to the repository: - .. code-block:: shell + .. code-block:: console $ git -C layers/openembedded-core rebase dldir/master # fix conflicts in an editor, then stage the resolved files: @@ -552,7 +552,7 @@ In addition, the command can take the following arguments: preserves the conflicting directory under a timestamped backup path and re-clones the layer cleanly from upstream: - .. code-block:: shell + .. code-block:: console $ bitbake-setup update --rebase-conflicts-strategy=backup NOTE: Bitbake-setup is using /path/to/bitbake-builds as top directory. @@ -583,7 +583,7 @@ In addition, the command can take the following arguments: the following commands can be used to apply these commits on top of the new upstream revision in the fresh clone: - .. code-block:: shell + .. code-block:: console $ git -C layers/openembedded-core-backup.20260329160426 log --oneline my-wip a1b2c3d u-boot: fix compilation with newer GCC @@ -620,7 +620,7 @@ In addition, the command can take the following arguments: Once all desired commits have been recovered and verified, the backup directory can be removed: - .. code-block:: shell + .. code-block:: console $ rm -rf layers/openembedded-core-backup.20260329160426 @@ -856,7 +856,7 @@ These files are written in the JSON file format and are stored in a :term:`Registry`. They can also be standalone files directly passed to the :ref:`ref-bbsetup-command-init` command: -.. code-block:: shell +.. code-block:: console $ bitbake-setup init /path/to/config.conf.json -- 2.53.0 ^ permalink raw reply related [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
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