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* is it time for a separate YP doc focusing on security/vulnerabilities/CVEs, etc?
@ 2025-12-15 21:02 Robert P. J. Day
  2025-12-16  9:33 ` [docs] " Quentin Schulz
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread
From: Robert P. J. Day @ 2025-12-15 21:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: YP docs mailing list


  i know i've mentioned this before but, to start with, the dev manual
section "Making Images More Secure":

  https://docs.yoctoproject.org/dev-manual/securing-images.html

opens with three links all of which are more than a decade old. and
further down in that same manual, there are two sections related to
vulnerabilities. given the importance of security in the embedded
space, might it be time for a whole document devoted to the subject?

  there were a number of talks related to this in the recent YP
virtual summit, that seems like a decent place to start. surely there
is easily enough content to justify a separate manual for this, no?

rday


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* Re: [docs] is it time for a separate YP doc focusing on security/vulnerabilities/CVEs, etc?
  2025-12-15 21:02 is it time for a separate YP doc focusing on security/vulnerabilities/CVEs, etc? Robert P. J. Day
@ 2025-12-16  9:33 ` Quentin Schulz
  2025-12-16 10:09   ` Antonin Godard
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread
From: Quentin Schulz @ 2025-12-16  9:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: rpjday, YP docs mailing list

Hi Robert,

On 12/15/25 10:00 PM, Robert P. J. Day via lists.yoctoproject.org wrote:
> 
>    i know i've mentioned this before but, to start with, the dev manual
> section "Making Images More Secure":
> 
>    https://docs.yoctoproject.org/dev-manual/securing-images.html
> 
> opens with three links all of which are more than a decade old. and
> further down in that same manual, there are two sections related to
> vulnerabilities. given the importance of security in the embedded
> space, might it be time for a whole document devoted to the subject?
> 
>    there were a number of talks related to this in the recent YP
> virtual summit, that seems like a decent place to start. surely there
> is easily enough content to justify a separate manual for this, no?
> 

https://lore.kernel.org/yocto-docs/20251204-reorg-security-section-v1-1-75aeeb741c83@bootlin.com/

Maybe?

Anything more to add to that patch? Since you have some interest in the 
topic, please take a few minutes and help reviewing it?

Cheers,
Quentin


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* Re: [docs] is it time for a separate YP doc focusing on security/vulnerabilities/CVEs, etc?
  2025-12-16  9:33 ` [docs] " Quentin Schulz
@ 2025-12-16 10:09   ` Antonin Godard
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: Antonin Godard @ 2025-12-16 10:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: quentin.schulz, rpjday, YP docs mailing list

Hi,

On Tue Dec 16, 2025 at 10:33 AM CET, Quentin Schulz via lists.yoctoproject.org wrote:
> Hi Robert,
>
> On 12/15/25 10:00 PM, Robert P. J. Day via lists.yoctoproject.org wrote:
>> 
>>    i know i've mentioned this before but, to start with, the dev manual
>> section "Making Images More Secure":
>> 
>>    https://docs.yoctoproject.org/dev-manual/securing-images.html
>> 
>> opens with three links all of which are more than a decade old. and
>> further down in that same manual, there are two sections related to
>> vulnerabilities. given the importance of security in the embedded
>> space, might it be time for a whole document devoted to the subject?
>> 
>>    there were a number of talks related to this in the recent YP
>> virtual summit, that seems like a decent place to start. surely there
>> is easily enough content to justify a separate manual for this, no?
>> 
>
> https://lore.kernel.org/yocto-docs/20251204-reorg-security-section-v1-1-75aeeb741c83@bootlin.com/
>
> Maybe?
>
> Anything more to add to that patch? Since you have some interest in the 
> topic, please take a few minutes and help reviewing it?

This patch moves the process-related security bits to its own section, but it's
process only. I believe Robert was talking more about a "how to secure your
target" manual.

Right now, I can see we have:

- dev-manual/securing-images.rst
- dev-manual/vulnerabilities.rst
- dev-manual/read-only-rootfs.rst
- (anything else?)

I'm not against moving these to a security manual, like the kernel or profiling
one. It also puts security a bit more to the front, which I think is what the
YP (and rest of the world) is leaning towards.

Afterwards, people can plug-in security guides/tips in there, as long as the
implementation is supported in OE-Core/Poky. For example, systemd security
features through PACKAGECONFIG, etc.

This would also help with this open bug:
https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14509.

Regarding the links in securing-images.rst, yes, they could be refreshed or even
removed, as I find the sentence "Consider the issues and problems discussed in
just this sampling of work found across the Internet:" not strictly necessary in
a Yocto Project documentation context. Patches welcome :)

Antonin

-- 
Antonin Godard, Bootlin
Embedded Linux and Kernel engineering
https://bootlin.com



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