From: "Antonin Godard" <antonin.godard@bootlin.com>
To: "Quentin Schulz" <quentin.schulz@cherry.de>,
<docs@lists.yoctoproject.org>
Cc: "Thomas Petazzoni" <thomas.petazzoni@bootlin.com>
Subject: Re: [docs] [PATCH v2] Document shared state signing
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2026 17:33:30 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <DI41OUUEK11E.3GOUTLCIKCHUC@bootlin.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1bcdee06-4590-42ae-afb7-1948d21d616f@cherry.de>
Hi,
On Mon Apr 27, 2026 at 5:08 PM CEST, Quentin Schulz wrote:
> Hi Antonin,
>
> On 4/27/26 4:43 PM, Antonin Godard wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Fri Apr 24, 2026 at 5:18 PM CEST, Quentin Schulz via lists.yoctoproject.org wrote:
>>> Hi Antonin,
>>>
>>> On 4/21/26 9:19 AM, Antonin Godard via lists.yoctoproject.org wrote:
> [...]
>>>> + :term:`SSTATE_VALID_SIGS`
>>>> + When verifying :ref:`shared state <overview-manual/concepts:setscene tasks
>>>> + and shared state>` artifacts (when :term:`SSTATE_VERIFY_SIG` is set to
>>>> + "1"), the :term:`SSTATE_VALID_SIGS` variable is a space-separated list of
>>>> + :wikipedia:`GPG <GNU_Privacy_Guard>` key identifiers to use to verify their
>>>> + signature.
>>>> +
>>>> + It must contain the short form identifier of the key pair. For example,
>>>> + when running the ``gpg --list-keys`` command:
>>>> +
>
> What happens if this variable is empty? My reading of
> meta/lib/oe/gpg_sign.py:LocalSigner:verify() hints at *any* key that
> verifies the signature will do.
I think that's what happens, when reading again. I'll add this to the variable's
description.
>>>> + .. parsed-literal::
>>>> +
>>>
>>> You could use
>>>
>>> .. code-block:: console
>>>
>>> $ gpg --list-keys
>>> pub....
>>>
>>> to avoid having to use a literal include.
>>
>> This use of parsed-literal was intended, as it shows the last 16 characters in
>> bold. I'll add " (in bold text below)" before the colon.
>>
>
> We can also use
>
> :emphasize-lines: <line-no>[, <line-no>...]
>
> in code-blocks, see
> https://www.sphinx-doc.org/en/master/usage/restructuredtext/directives.html#directive-option-code-block-emphasize-lines
I want to highlight a specific portion of a line, I don't think this does that?
> [...]
>
>>>> +.. note::
>>>> +
>>>> + The `siginfo` file is not related to GPG signing.
>>>> +
>>>
>>> But the first file also not since we haven't enabled signing yet, what
>>> did you want to say here?
>>
>> Avoid confusion as "siginfo" could make someone think of "signatures" and hence
>> signing/gpg. Is adding the note more confusing?
>>
>
> Ah, yes this makes sense to specify this.
>
> What about
>
> Despite its name, the `siginfo` file is unrelated to GPG signing.
Agreed, clearer
>>>
>>>> +Enabling Shared State Signing
>>>> +-----------------------------
>>>> +
>>>> +Create a new :term:`configuration file` on your host **in a safe location** and
>>>
>>> What makes a location safe?
>>
>>> I would suggest to put it somewhere in $HOME/.config/ maybe?
>>
>> Maybe, but I don't think that makes it safer?
>>
>
> It puts it outside of a possibly versioned repository, but in itself,
> not better no.
>
>>> Since it contains a secret, we should probably also recommend to do
>>>
>>> chmod o-rwx <file>
>>
>> Yes, I'll add that.
>>
>>> no (and possibly chown $USER:$USER <file> ?)
>>
>> This should be the default when creating the file but I can add that.
>>
>
> Fair enough.
>
> [...]
>
>>>> +It is advised to put these statements in a separate file as those contain
>>>> +secrets and should not be shared. For this example, let's assume this file is
>>>> +``conf/sstate-sig-key.conf``.
>>>> +
>>>> +These statements define:
>>>> +
>>>> +- :term:`SSTATE_VERIFY_SIG`: setting this variable to "1" enables the shared
>>>> + state signing feature.
>>>> +
>>>> +- :term:`SSTATE_SIG_KEY`: the GPG key identifier for signing shared state
>>>> + artifacts with the private key.
>>>> +
>>>> + In our example, this corresponds to the identifier printed with the ``gpg
>>>> + --list-keys`` command :ref:`above <security-manual/sstate-signing:Generating
>>>> + A Public And Private Key Pair With GPG>`.
>>>> +
>>>> +- :term:`SSTATE_SIG_PASSPHRASE`: the passphrase used to protect your private
>>>> + key when creating the key, chosen when creating the key pair.
>>>> +
>>>
>>> Am I the only bothered this is an option? Is there no way to use a
>>> keyring or the gpg-agent instead?
>>
>> I don't think so, no.
>>
>
> Terrible security practice :(
Yeah I agree. Maybe it's worth opening an enhancement "bug" on Bugzilla for
this, what do you think?
>>>> +Let's test our configuration:
>>>> +
>>>> +#. Continuing with our ``gettext-minimal-native`` example, let's first clean the
>>>> + existing shared state artifacts:
>>>> +
>>>> + .. code-block:: console
>>>> +
>>>> + $ bitbake gettext-minimal-native -c cleansstate
>>>> +
>>>
>>> Why do we need to clean the cache (I'm assuming because you want to make
>>> sure the artifacts you sign are the one you just generated and not
>>> malicious ones, but I think it'd be worth explaining this is not a
>>> limitation but a design decision (IFF I really guessed that right)).
>>
>> I'm giving an example here, and want to make sure my share state artifacts are
>> re-generated.
>>
>
> Then say this :)
Fair enough, I will!
> [...]
>
>>>> +#. Then, run the task again:
>>>> +
>>>> + .. code-block:: console
>>>> +
>>>> + $ bitbake gettext-minimal-native -c create_recipe_spdx
>>>> +
>>>> +#. To make sure the shared state artifact was successfully used, look for the
>>>> + :ref:`setscene <overview-manual/concepts:setscene tasks and shared state>` task
>>>> + for ``create_recipe_spdx`` in the latest log file from :term:`BitBake`:
>>>> +
>>>> + .. code-block:: console
>>>> +
>>>> + $ grep create_recipe_spdx_setscene tmp/log/cooker/<machine>/console-latest.log
>>>> + NOTE: Running setscene task 1 of 1 (../layers/openembedded-core/meta/recipes-core/gettext/gettext-minimal-native_1.0.bb:do_create_recipe_spdx_setscene)
>>>> + NOTE: recipe gettext-minimal-native-1.0-r0: task do_create_recipe_spdx_setscene: Started
>>>> + NOTE: recipe gettext-minimal-native-1.0-r0: task do_create_recipe_spdx_setscene: Succeeded
>>>> +
>>>> + Our shared state was successfully verified and used!
>>>
>>> Is there any indication in the logs that verification was actually
>>> performed?
>>
>> No, I didn't find any in the code, or with any verbosity level
>>
>
> Maybe something we should add? This seems like an important piece of
> information to have.
Yes, I agree.
> What about
>
> diff --git a/meta/lib/oe/gpg_sign.py b/meta/lib/oe/gpg_sign.py
> index ede6186c84..fa339644fd 100644
> --- a/meta/lib/oe/gpg_sign.py
> +++ b/meta/lib/oe/gpg_sign.py
> @@ -132,8 +132,11 @@ class LocalSigner(object):
> status = subprocess.run(cmd, stdout=subprocess.PIPE,
> stderr=subprocess.PIPE)
> # Valid if any key matches if unspecified
> if not valid_sigs:
> - ret = False if status.returncode else True
> - return ret
> + if status.returncode:
> + return False
> +
> + bb.note("Signature file %s successfully verified with unspecified key" % (sig_file))
Maybe `bb.debug`?
> + return True
>
> import re
> goodsigs = []
> @@ -145,6 +148,7 @@ class LocalSigner(object):
>
> for sig in valid_sigs.split():
> if sig in goodsigs:
> + bb.note("Signature file %s successfully verified with key %s" % (sig_file, sig))
> return True
> if len(goodsigs):
> bb.warn('No accepted signatures found. Good signatures
> found: %s.' % ' '.join(goodsigs))
>
>
> ? I think we may have a few people resisting this as I'm guessing this
> is on the hot path so adding messages isn't the best (even if disabled
> most of the time).
I see what you mean. You might be a bit more convincing by passing them through
bb.debug?
Thanks,
Antonin
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-04-27 15:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-04-21 7:19 [PATCH v2] Document shared state signing Antonin Godard
2026-04-24 15:18 ` [docs] " Quentin Schulz
2026-04-27 14:43 ` Antonin Godard
2026-04-27 15:08 ` Quentin Schulz
2026-04-27 15:33 ` Antonin Godard [this message]
2026-04-27 16:44 ` Quentin Schulz
2026-04-28 8:27 ` Antonin Godard
2026-05-07 9:11 ` Quentin Schulz
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