From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72749CD8CB2 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 2026 12:54:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtpout-02.galae.net (smtpout-02.galae.net [185.246.84.56]) by mx.groups.io with SMTP id smtpd.msgproc02-g2.19781.1781096045366174850 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 2026 05:54:06 -0700 Authentication-Results: mx.groups.io; dkim=pass header.i=@bootlin.com header.s=dkim header.b=WTzpVZW8; spf=pass (domain: bootlin.com, ip: 185.246.84.56, mailfrom: antonin.godard@bootlin.com) Received: from smtpout-01.galae.net (smtpout-01.galae.net [212.83.139.233]) by smtpout-02.galae.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 348651A37E2; Wed, 10 Jun 2026 12:54:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.galae.net (mail.galae.net [212.83.136.155]) by smtpout-01.galae.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F0C1B5FFC9; Wed, 10 Jun 2026 12:54:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Mailerdaemon) with ESMTPSA id 2EBC6106B90C5; Wed, 10 Jun 2026 14:54:00 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bootlin.com; s=dkim; t=1781096042; h=from:subject:date:message-id:to:cc:mime-version:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to:references; bh=5wgSX6I2gG+BXxRerQvWO5tF5FAA9T+DvJcn7w0aUGE=; b=WTzpVZW86onnYSCBQS9pmL6Qsrch1qn/5Ci9v1rVMfFgaGUC+KsYuKDyd+wzFu5aT847Ab aPo7qJ579qK1jOL/RpHIGq4sjQoVOoo6bVHtCHpHnmFvTYvZ8TXjW2WjFqObABwfuVUGHH MlhyjnTA1GzcAxj9UGqeMoORRM2jHEce4bEJOsIsd7/g2zkkXL/eEXfai1l1bkjmOL7EnV xu3aOV6LDWtOtcvtD88Aw60AzHasbELUhU2Pxfq6mQHdcAXPPjH3wYKGdafoJSCSN2QT4l 03ERDEbIrUGvXlpmjKSAkyABUU1VJoRte/7xRcS1GfSdTfPwg89T/OwhLApOkQ== Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2026 14:54:00 +0200 Message-Id: To: "Robert P. J. Day" , "Alexander Kanavin" Subject: Re: [docs] [PATCH] dev-manual: add command to force a recipe re-compile Cc: "Quentin Schulz" , "YP docs mailing list" From: "Antonin Godard" References: <06ee4e3f-d477-0b55-be14-ff74aa2383c1@crashcourse.ca> <03d3e318-bbc8-4b50-969a-908205b8e5ee@crashcourse.ca> <792c5b1a-00a8-00d3-a0c4-8cfd23be31b1@crashcourse.ca> In-Reply-To: <792c5b1a-00a8-00d3-a0c4-8cfd23be31b1@crashcourse.ca> X-Last-TLS-Session-Version: TLSv1.3 List-Id: X-Webhook-Received: from 45-33-107-173.ip.linodeusercontent.com [45.33.107.173] by aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org with HTTPS for ; Wed, 10 Jun 2026 12:54:16 -0000 X-Groupsio-URL: https://lists.yoctoproject.org/g/docs/message/9679 On Wed Jun 10, 2026 at 11:51 AM CEST, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > On Wed, 10 Jun 2026, Alexander Kanavin wrote: > >> On Wed, 10 Jun 2026 at 11:24, Quentin Schulz = wrote: >> > Do not modify a recipe's unpacked source code, it's the best way to ha= ve >> > your changes lost. There are non-negligible chances that it'll end up >> > being deleted and unpacked again (e.g. because the cache is outdated v= ia >> > its dependencies or the recipe parsing resulted in a rebuild of the re= cipe). >> > >> > Using -f also taints the build and you need to clean the sstate-cache >> > for this recipe to recover from it last time I checked, which is >> > something we don't like recommending to people (if you need to clean t= he >> > sstate-cache, either something's wrong with your recipe or there's a b= ug >> > we need to fix), so I don't think documenting this enormous footgun is= a >> > good thing. >> >> I agree, I'd rather not mention it at all, and point people directly to = devtool. > > ok, i'll add that but, as i just mentioned, it's there in the quilt > section as well. I think keeping the Quilt document is fine and in this case the command mak= es sense, however, it would be nice to inform users in this document that devt= ool is available and friendlier. Could you add this note? Antonin