From: <tgamblin@baylibre.com>
To: "Robert P. J. Day" <rpjday@crashcourse.ca>,
"YP docs mailing list" <docs@lists.yoctoproject.org>
Subject: Re: commands to do "pip install" in docs README file need enhancing
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2026 09:23:24 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <DKTSXW5WZTQW.383TF2WMPIE77@baylibre.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <959e65b6-e7eb-bcc3-992f-bed7276c8449@crashcourse.ca>
On Thu Aug 20, 2026 at 7:20 AM EDT, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
>
> I just went through this with another Sphinx-based documentation
> repo -- installation instructions that advise the reader to install
> Python modules with "pip install" fail on my Debian 13 system with:
>
>
> $ pip install sphinx-lint
> error: externally-managed-environment
>
> × This environment is externally managed
> ╰─> To install Python packages system-wide, try apt install
> python3-xyz, where xyz is the package you are trying to
> install.
>
> If you wish to install a non-Debian-packaged Python package,
> create a virtual environment using python3 -m venv path/to/venv.
> Then use path/to/venv/bin/python and path/to/venv/bin/pip. Make
> sure you have python3-full installed.
>
> If you wish to install a non-Debian packaged Python application,
> it may be easiest to use pipx install xyz, which will manage a
> virtual environment for you. Make sure you have pipx installed.
>
> See /usr/share/doc/python3.13/README.venv for more information.
>
> note: If you believe this is a mistake, please contact your Python
> installation or OS distribution provider. You can override this, at
> the risk of breaking your Python installation or OS, by passing
> --break-system-packages.
> hint: See PEP 668 for the detailed specification.
>
>
> Yes, there are solutions, such as using "pipx" instead of "pip", and
> what have you, but it seems that the README file should be augmented
> with an explanation as to how to deal with the above given that the
> "pip install" commands are, in some cases, guaranteed to fail.
Creating a venv like the error suggests (or via uv) is simple enough and IMO
best practice for anything like this. You could submit a change to provide short
examples, even replacing the references to pipenv earlier in the file.
>
> rday
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-08-20 13:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-08-20 11:20 commands to do "pip install" in docs README file need enhancing Robert P. J. Day
2026-08-20 13:23 ` tgamblin [this message]
2026-08-20 14:47 ` [docs] " Quentin Schulz
2026-08-20 14:58 ` Robert P. J. Day
2026-08-20 16:31 ` Quentin Schulz
2026-08-20 20:11 ` Robert P. J. Day
2026-08-20 20:44 ` Robert P. J. Day
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