Is there a YP RISC-V specific mailing list?

Is there a YP RISC-V specific mailing list?

[Robert P. J. Day]

  I'm currently diving into RISC-V and have piles of questions but I
see no YP mailing list devoted to RISC-V. Should there be one?

rday

Re: [yocto] Is there a YP RISC-V specific mailing list?

[Khem Raj]

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On Wed, Jul 9, 2025 at 4:09 AM Robert P. J. Day via lists.yoctoproject.org
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>   I'm currently diving into RISC-V and have piles of questions but I
> see no YP mailing list devoted to RISC-V. Should there be one?
>

That’s right. I think we do not have trafffic to warrant a separate mailing
list yet so maybe use oe-devel or oe-core ml

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> rday
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Re: [yocto] Is there a YP RISC-V specific mailing list?

[Josef Holzmayr]

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Hi Robert,

It depends a bit (classic engineering answer).
The obvious choices are
- oe-core
- oe-devel
- yocto
- oe-architecture.

So far my understanding is that meta-riscv is hosted on GitHub under the
reign of Khem, but maybe this could/should be reconsidered moving to yp.org
too? In that case the yocto-patches list would be a good place to discuss.
Looping in @Jeffrey Osier-Mixon <jefro@redhat.com>, I think this is a good
opportunity to move visibility forwards.

Greetz,
Josef

On Wed, Jul 9, 2025 at 4:11 PM Khem Raj via lists.yoctoproject.org
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> On Wed, Jul 9, 2025 at 4:09 AM Robert P. J. Day via lists.yoctoproject.org
> <rpjday=crashcourse.ca@lists.yoctoproject.org> wrote:
>
>>
>>   I'm currently diving into RISC-V and have piles of questions but I
>> see no YP mailing list devoted to RISC-V. Should there be one?
>>
>
> That’s right. I think we do not have trafffic to warrant a separate
> mailing list yet so maybe use oe-devel or oe-core ml
>
>>
>> rday
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Re: [yocto] Is there a YP RISC-V specific mailing list?

[Robert P. J. Day]

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On Thu, 10 Jul 2025, Josef Holzmayr wrote:

> Hi Robert,
> It depends a bit (classic engineering answer).
> The obvious choices are
> - oe-core
> - oe-devel
> - yocto
> - oe-architecture.
>
> So far my understanding is that meta-riscv is hosted on GitHub under
> the reign of Khem, but maybe this could/should be reconsidered
> moving to yp.org too? In that case the yocto-patches list would be a
> good place to discuss. Looping in @Jeffrey Osier-Mixon, I think this
> is a good opportunity to move visibility forwards.

  That is clearly a decision to be made by someone way above my pay
grade and Candy Crush score, but I think there's justification for a
separate YP-hosted mailing list for RISC-V devoted to YP
build-*specific* issues so as to not duplicate all of the generic
RISC-V content over at riscv.org. After all, OE-Core has machine conf
files for 32- and 64-bit RISC-V QEMU, so one can say it's OE
"official."

  Anyway, that's my +1 for a YP/OE RISC-V mailing list.

rday

Re: [yocto] Is there a YP RISC-V specific mailing list?

[Ross Burton]

On 10 Jul 2025, at 12:22, Robert P. J. Day via lists.yoctoproject.org <rpjday=crashcourse.ca@lists.yoctoproject.org> wrote:
> 
> 
> On Thu, 10 Jul 2025, Josef Holzmayr wrote:
> 
>> Hi Robert,
>> It depends a bit (classic engineering answer).
>> The obvious choices are
>> - oe-core
>> - oe-devel
>> - yocto
>> - oe-architecture.
>> 
>> So far my understanding is that meta-riscv is hosted on GitHub under
>> the reign of Khem, but maybe this could/should be reconsidered
>> moving to yp.org too? In that case the yocto-patches list would be a
>> good place to discuss. Looping in @Jeffrey Osier-Mixon, I think this
>> is a good opportunity to move visibility forwards.
> 
>  That is clearly a decision to be made by someone way above my pay
> grade and Candy Crush score, but I think there's justification for a
> separate YP-hosted mailing list for RISC-V devoted to YP
> build-*specific* issues so as to not duplicate all of the generic
> RISC-V content over at riscv.org. After all, OE-Core has machine conf
> files for 32- and 64-bit RISC-V QEMU, so one can say it's OE
> "official."
> 
>  Anyway, that's my +1 for a YP/OE RISC-V mailing list.

Why is riscv so special? We don’t have a list for Arm-specific or x86-specific issues.

I’d say use the existing channels until there’s a sufficiently huge amount of traffic that it needs its own list.  If we get to that point then I’d be asking why though...

Ross

Re: [yocto] Is there a YP RISC-V specific mailing list?

[Robert P. J. Day]

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On Fri, 11 Jul 2025, Ross Burton wrote:

> On 10 Jul 2025, at 12:22, Robert P. J. Day via lists.yoctoproject.org <rpjday=crashcourse.ca@lists.yoctoproject.org> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 10 Jul 2025, Josef Holzmayr wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Robert,
> >> It depends a bit (classic engineering answer).
> >> The obvious choices are
> >> - oe-core
> >> - oe-devel
> >> - yocto
> >> - oe-architecture.
> >>
> >> So far my understanding is that meta-riscv is hosted on GitHub under
> >> the reign of Khem, but maybe this could/should be reconsidered
> >> moving to yp.org too? In that case the yocto-patches list would be a
> >> good place to discuss. Looping in @Jeffrey Osier-Mixon, I think this
> >> is a good opportunity to move visibility forwards.
> >
> >  That is clearly a decision to be made by someone way above my pay
> > grade and Candy Crush score, but I think there's justification for a
> > separate YP-hosted mailing list for RISC-V devoted to YP
> > build-*specific* issues so as to not duplicate all of the generic
> > RISC-V content over at riscv.org. After all, OE-Core has machine conf
> > files for 32- and 64-bit RISC-V QEMU, so one can say it's OE
> > "official."
> >
> >  Anyway, that's my +1 for a YP/OE RISC-V mailing list.
>
> Why is riscv so special? We don’t have a list for Arm-specific or
> x86-specific issues.
>
> I’d say use the existing channels until there’s a sufficiently huge
> amount of traffic that it needs its own list.  If we get to that
> point then I’d be asking why though...

  but we *do* have some arch-specific MLs:

https://www.yoctoproject.org/community/mailing-lists/

or am i confused about those mailing lists?

rday

Re: [yocto] Is there a YP RISC-V specific mailing list?

[Ross Burton]

On 11 Jul 2025, at 15:46, Robert P. J. Day <rpjday@crashcourse.ca> wrote:
>  but we *do* have some arch-specific MLs:
> 
> https://www.yoctoproject.org/community/mailing-lists/
> 
> or am i confused about those mailing lists?

They’re for specific layers (meta-intel, meta-arm, etc), not the architecture in general.

meta-arm is specifically meta-arm contributions, when we discuss changes to the Arm tunes in core, that happens on oe-core@.

Ross

Re: [yocto] Is there a YP RISC-V specific mailing list?

[Robert P. J. Day]

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On Fri, 11 Jul 2025, Ross Burton wrote:

> On 11 Jul 2025, at 15:46, Robert P. J. Day <rpjday@crashcourse.ca> wrote:
> >  but we *do* have some arch-specific MLs:
> >
> > https://www.yoctoproject.org/community/mailing-lists/
> >
> > or am i confused about those mailing lists?
>
> They’re for specific layers (meta-intel, meta-arm, etc), not the architecture in general.
>
> meta-arm is specifically meta-arm contributions, when we discuss
> changes to the Arm tunes in core, that happens on oe-core@.

  ah, understood.

rday