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([2601:646:9200:4e0:913f:dc36:bf23:12ab]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id y4sm3021601pjc.53.2020.10.22.14.39.38 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 22 Oct 2020 14:39:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [yocto] [OE-core] Let me tell you how I really feel. Zero filter. If you need meta-python2, you need to become a maintainer. Immediately. Period. To: Martin Jansa , Tim Orling Cc: Yocto-mailing-list , openembedded-core , "openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org" References: From: "Khem Raj" Organization: HIMVIS LLC Message-ID: Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2020 14:39:37 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.15; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.3.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 10/22/20 2:36 PM, Martin Jansa wrote: > There were only a few changes needed between dunfell and gatesgarth to > keep it building and I feel guilty for sending half of them - and > pinging you on FB :). > > I don't have interest in python2, but it's still used by quite a few > components included in other layers are care about (e.g. qtwebengine in > meta-qt5, chromium in meta-browser - > https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=942720 > is still > quite far from finished) and at LGE we maintain meta-ros > https://github.com/ros/meta-ros which > contains support for ROS 1 Melodic which is usually used with python2 > and support ends May 2023 (together with Ubuntu Bionic it's usually used > with: http://wiki.ros.org/Distributions > - just today I've separated > meta-ros-python2 layer with python2 recipes which disappeared from > oe-core in warrior and were never re-introduced in meta-python2 (like > nose and numpy). > > If you're looking for someone just keeping it buildable, then you can > sign me up. If it gets more annoying to maintain in future we can also > split it for pythonnative.bbclass and python recipe itself - to keep > just the bare minimum of recipes which are actively being used without > all the other junk. minimum is better. > > Cheers, > > On Wed, Oct 21, 2020 at 2:48 AM Tim Orling > wrote: > > I have absolutely no need for python2, I made this abundantly clear > when I created the meta-python2 layer. > > If you depend upon continuing support of python2 via the > meta-python2 layer, this is your call to arms. > > I was originally intending to abdicate any support after the 3.1 > "dunfell" release, but managed to somehow continue supporting it > into the crest of the 3.2 "gatesgarth" release. > > I will stop all support and actively refuse lo respond to any emails > and this layer will be dead and I have zero care in the world that > it stops being useful. I do not use it. I do not depend upon it. You > are not paying me to do this. You cannot pay me enough to do this. > Period. Support yourself. > > If this is not clear enough, I am happy to have a virtual video call > with you that you will not like. > > --moto-timo > > > > > > >