[parisc-linux] HP 710 and miscellaneous questions ...

[parisc-linux] HP 710 and miscellaneous questions ...

[Jeremy C. Reed]

I see "[t]his mailing list exists to serve the developers." Where is
the appropriate forum to discuss basic usage?

I have an HP 700 Series Apollo Model 710. As far as I can tell it has no
usable operating system (no HPUX). I can turn it on and connect to a
series of (CMOS?/BIOS?) prompts and menus via a serial cable. It does not
have a CD drive. I do not have HPUX to do any cross-compiles. (I have
installed a variety of flavours of BSD and Linux hundreds of times, but
always on i386 architectures.)

I want to use Linux (or BSD) on it. The PA-RISC webpages have links for
documentation, but none appear to explain a basic install. Where is the
documentation for installing Linux on a hard drive?

The software page (http://www.parisc-linux.org/software/) says "nfsroot"
is the easiest way; but the instructions say "you have to build on
HP/UX."

Is there simply a filesystem image (with kernel and userspace) that I can
dd to a harddrive that I can then use to boot my HP 710)? If so, where is
it? (And where is this documented?)

Also, I see an ISO image at
ftp://puffin.external.hp.com/pub/parisc/cd-images/; is there any
(easy) way to convert this ISO image to an image that I can dd on to my
hardrive (to use to boot)?

Thanks,

   Jeremy C. Reed
   http://bsd.reedmedia.net/

Re: [parisc-linux] HP 710 and miscellaneous questions ...

[Brian Stewart]

You will find the HP710 is not going to work for you at this moment. The 710
has a ASP bus that has some problems with the interrupt controller (that is
the suspicion of the pa-risc linux group). I have been unsuccessful in
getting it to run. The network card stops working at boot and the scsi
driver will not detect any scsi devices.

I went one step further and created a large ramdisk (8-9 meg) and tried to
boot and run entirely in the ram disk. Init fails as soon as the kernel
passes control to it. I would recommend using mklinux for the time being,
there is a lot of interest in that machine but the documentation that is
needed to resolve the interrupt problem is not in the hands of the right
people. I would like to be optimistic and say in 6 months or so the pa-risc
linux gurus out there will have a fix.

mklinux:
ftp://ftp.cirr.com/pub/hppa/mklinux/
basically you d/l a disk image and the usr.tar, var.tar files and dd the
image to a hard drive on a second machine.

I hope this helps


----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeremy C. Reed" <reed@reedmedia.net>
To: <parisc-linux@lists.parisc-linux.org>
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 4:27 PM
Subject: [parisc-linux] HP 710 and miscellaneous questions ...


> I see "[t]his mailing list exists to serve the developers." Where is
> the appropriate forum to discuss basic usage?
>
> I have an HP 700 Series Apollo Model 710. As far as I can tell it has no
> usable operating system (no HPUX). I can turn it on and connect to a
> series of (CMOS?/BIOS?) prompts and menus via a serial cable. It does not
> have a CD drive. I do not have HPUX to do any cross-compiles. (I have
> installed a variety of flavours of BSD and Linux hundreds of times, but
> always on i386 architectures.)
>
> I want to use Linux (or BSD) on it. The PA-RISC webpages have links for
> documentation, but none appear to explain a basic install. Where is the
> documentation for installing Linux on a hard drive?
>
> The software page (http://www.parisc-linux.org/software/) says "nfsroot"
> is the easiest way; but the instructions say "you have to build on
> HP/UX."
>
> Is there simply a filesystem image (with kernel and userspace) that I can
> dd to a harddrive that I can then use to boot my HP 710)? If so, where is
> it? (And where is this documented?)
>
> Also, I see an ISO image at
> ftp://puffin.external.hp.com/pub/parisc/cd-images/; is there any
> (easy) way to convert this ISO image to an image that I can dd on to my
> hardrive (to use to boot)?
>
> Thanks,
>
>    Jeremy C. Reed
>    http://bsd.reedmedia.net/
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> parisc-linux mailing list
> parisc-linux@lists.parisc-linux.org
> http://lists.parisc-linux.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/parisc-linux
>

Re: [parisc-linux] HP 710 and miscellaneous questions ...

[Peter Weatherall]

I have a C160. When I boot it , I see the following message -

>>>>
Dino version 2.1 (bridge mode) found at 0xf1600000


The GSCtoPCI (Dino hrev 1) bus converter found may exhibit
data corruption.  See Service Note Numbers: A4190A-01, A4191A-01.
Systems shipped after Aug 20, 1997 will not exhibit this problem.
Models affected: C180, C160, C160L, B160L, and B132L workstations.

dino_bridge_init: IO_ADDR_EN hasn't been configured.
kernel BUG at dino.c:795!
>>>>>

How can I determine if my c160 is affected ? what's this kernel bug at
dino.c all about and is there some Dino documentation available ?

Thanks
Peter

Where can I learn more about





----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Stewart" <pdksh@hotmail.com>
To: "Jeremy C. Reed" <reed@reedmedia.net>;
<parisc-linux@lists.parisc-linux.org>
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 3:57 PM
Subject: Re: [parisc-linux] HP 710 and miscellaneous questions ...


> You will find the HP710 is not going to work for you at this moment. The
710
> has a ASP bus that has some problems with the interrupt controller (that
is
> the suspicion of the pa-risc linux group). I have been unsuccessful in
> getting it to run. The network card stops working at boot and the scsi
> driver will not detect any scsi devices.
>
> I went one step further and created a large ramdisk (8-9 meg) and tried to
> boot and run entirely in the ram disk. Init fails as soon as the kernel
> passes control to it. I would recommend using mklinux for the time being,
> there is a lot of interest in that machine but the documentation that is
> needed to resolve the interrupt problem is not in the hands of the right
> people. I would like to be optimistic and say in 6 months or so the
pa-risc
> linux gurus out there will have a fix.
>
> mklinux:
> ftp://ftp.cirr.com/pub/hppa/mklinux/
> basically you d/l a disk image and the usr.tar, var.tar files and dd the
> image to a hard drive on a second machine.
>
> I hope this helps
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jeremy C. Reed" <reed@reedmedia.net>
> To: <parisc-linux@lists.parisc-linux.org>
> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 4:27 PM
> Subject: [parisc-linux] HP 710 and miscellaneous questions ...
>
>
> > I see "[t]his mailing list exists to serve the developers." Where is
> > the appropriate forum to discuss basic usage?
> >
> > I have an HP 700 Series Apollo Model 710. As far as I can tell it has no
> > usable operating system (no HPUX). I can turn it on and connect to a
> > series of (CMOS?/BIOS?) prompts and menus via a serial cable. It does
not
> > have a CD drive. I do not have HPUX to do any cross-compiles. (I have
> > installed a variety of flavours of BSD and Linux hundreds of times, but
> > always on i386 architectures.)
> >
> > I want to use Linux (or BSD) on it. The PA-RISC webpages have links for
> > documentation, but none appear to explain a basic install. Where is the
> > documentation for installing Linux on a hard drive?
> >
> > The software page (http://www.parisc-linux.org/software/) says "nfsroot"
> > is the easiest way; but the instructions say "you have to build on
> > HP/UX."
> >
> > Is there simply a filesystem image (with kernel and userspace) that I
can
> > dd to a harddrive that I can then use to boot my HP 710)? If so, where
is
> > it? (And where is this documented?)
> >
> > Also, I see an ISO image at
> > ftp://puffin.external.hp.com/pub/parisc/cd-images/; is there any
> > (easy) way to convert this ISO image to an image that I can dd on to my
> > hardrive (to use to boot)?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> >    Jeremy C. Reed
> >    http://bsd.reedmedia.net/
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > parisc-linux mailing list
> > parisc-linux@lists.parisc-linux.org
> > http://lists.parisc-linux.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/parisc-linux
> >
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> parisc-linux mailing list
> parisc-linux@lists.parisc-linux.org
> http://lists.parisc-linux.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/parisc-linux
>

[parisc-linux] Dino

[Peter Weatherall]

(I'm reposting this with the correct subject) -


I have a C160. When I boot it , I see the following message -


> start snip >>>>
Dino version 2.1 (bridge mode) found at 0xf1600000


The GSCtoPCI (Dino hrev 1) bus converter found may exhibit
data corruption.  See Service Note Numbers: A4190A-01, A4191A-01.
Systems shipped after Aug 20, 1997 will not exhibit this problem.
Models affected: C180, C160, C160L, B160L, and B132L workstations.
 
dino_bridge_init: IO_ADDR_EN hasn't been configured.
kernel BUG at dino.c:795!
> end snip >>>>>
 
How can I determine if my c160 is affected ? what's this kernel bug at
dino.c all about and is there some Dino documentation available ?
 
Thanks
Peter

Re: [parisc-linux] Dino

[Grant Grundler]

"Peter Weatherall" wrote:
> Dino version 2.1 (bridge mode) found at 0xf1600000
> 
> 
> The GSCtoPCI (Dino hrev 1) bus converter found may exhibit
> data corruption.  See Service Note Numbers: A4190A-01, A4191A-01.
> Systems shipped after Aug 20, 1997 will not exhibit this problem.
> Models affected: C180, C160, C160L, B160L, and B132L workstations.
> 
> dino_bridge_init: IO_ADDR_EN hasn't been configured.
> kernel BUG at dino.c:795!
> >>>>>

I added this text about 1.5 years ago.


> How can I determine if my c160 is affected ? what's this kernel bug at
> dino.c all about and is there some Dino documentation available ?

The bug is documented in the Dino3.1 Errata. I don't recall if that got
published. Search the mail archive for "corruption".

With a dino2.1, I'd be pretty certain your box will be affected.
My understanding was HP replaced old dino chips with 3.1 versions.
For customers, this meant a board swap.

Note that upgrading PDC (firmware) may render PCI unusable.  PDC won't
let you boot (or get to PDC prompt) the box if dino is rev 3.0 or lower
*and* a PCI card (except HP graphics) is installed. It'll halt and print
something about PCI and "contact local HP support".

grant

Grant Grundler
parisc-linux {PCI|IOMMU|SMP} hacker
+1.408.447.7253

Re: [parisc-linux] HP 710 and miscellaneous questions ...

[Jeremy C. Reed]

On Thu, 26 Apr 2001, Brian Stewart wrote:

> You will find the HP710 is not going to work for you at this moment. The 710

Okay.

> passes control to it. I would recommend using mklinux for the time being,

Okay, my brother gave me a drive with an OS:

MkLinux for HP PA-RISC
Release 1.1 (Linux 2.0.32-osfmach3 on a hp_pa)

[root@lakestevens /root]# uname -a
Linux lakestevens 2.0.32-osfmach3 #45 Fri Nov 28 11:35:33 MET 1997 hp_pa unknown

> ftp://ftp.cirr.com/pub/hppa/mklinux/

Since my kernel date is Nov. 28, 1997 -- I assume this is the same as the
mklinux from this site. Anything newer?

Maybe I need to build a newer one myself?

http://www.mklinux.org/using_mklinux/index.html seems to be for mklinux on
a Macintosh platform.

http://www.mklinux.org/using_mklinux/index.html and
ftp://ftp.cirr.com/pub/hppa/mklinux/mkpa-rel.html have some notes about
"Building MkLinux".

> I hope this helps

It sure does. Thank you Brian.

(My main goal with this box is to learn how to port a BSD operating
system.)

Now to setup my thinlan so I can talk to it over the network ...

   Jeremy C. Reed
   http://www.reedmedia.net/