From: "Rusty Lynch" <rusty@linux.co.intel.com>
To: <trog@wincom.net>
Cc: "Linux Kernel Mailing List" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: A Kernel Configuration Tale of Woe
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 09:35:12 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <002001c29572$2ce2b2e0$94d40a0a@amr.corp.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 3de395e1.2c79.0@wincom.net
> I started doing a little doodling, and I came up with a very rough sort of
relationship
> map. I don't present this as the ideal data model - it's a start point at
best.
>
>
> A "box" is composed of "devices" and "subcomponents"
> A "subcomponent" is composed of "chipsets"
> A "chipset" provides a set of "capabilities"
> A "device" requires a set of "capabilities"
> A "chipset->capability::capablility<-device" pair defines an "interface"
> An "interface" has associated with it:
> a) the kernel version where it first became availible
> b) the kernel config switches that activate it
>
> So what is needed is some way to start at the "box" level, and given the
set
> of subcomponents and devices associated with it, spit out a list of a) and
b)
>
>
> Here's the mini-eureka I've had - that need not actually be a part of the
kernel
> config system, although the kernel config system might potentially make
use
> of it.
>
> What would suffice would be some sort of online database, published in a
highly
> visible location, and crosslinked from hell and back to make it likely to
be
> discovered in a Google-driven troubleshooting session. Provide motherboard
make
> and model (a subcomponent) any expansion cards (also subcomponents) and
the
> make and model numbers of drives et al (devices) and then query the
database
> and present the report.
>
> I'm envisioning something very much like the CDDB service. This is a
little
> more complex, but the concept is similar. And like the CDDB service, it
could
> be queried over the network by some future "make" option if somebody
decided
> to implement that.
>
> Also like the CDDB service, it makes use of network effects. No one person
has
> to populate the _entire_ database. The association of "subcomponents" to
"chipsets"
> (or "devices" to "capabilities") might be done by the manufacturer, or it
might
> be done by the developer who actually debugged the original driver
instance,
> or it might even be done by someone like myself (a sufficiently clued-in
sysadmin
> who did it the hard way and wants to help those who will follow after him)
>
> All that matters is that _somebody_ contribute one little portion of the
mapping,
> and then, given enough somebodies, the entire map assembles itself.
>
So how would you deal with somebody contributing bogus mappings?
What if somebody was just wrong, or uploading a mapping in error?
> And if Microsoft hasn't dared attempt such a thing... well, then that
would
> make it an "innovation", wouldn't it? ;)
>
> DG
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-11-26 17:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-11-26 15:35 A Kernel Configuration Tale of Woe Dennis Grant
2002-11-26 17:01 ` Kai Henningsen
2002-11-26 17:35 ` Rusty Lynch [this message]
2002-11-26 18:04 ` Dimitrie O. Paun
2002-11-26 18:46 ` Alan Cox
2002-11-26 18:48 ` Richard B. Johnson
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-11-27 17:52 Dennis Grant
2002-11-27 18:01 ` Alex Riesen
2002-11-27 17:47 Mark H. Wood
[not found] <fa.ivlir9v.u14v3p@ifi.uio.no>
[not found] ` <fa.gaum5rv.1j3snhh@ifi.uio.no>
2002-11-27 8:43 ` Giacomo Catenazzi
2002-11-27 10:12 ` John Bradford
2002-11-26 19:28 Dennis Grant
2002-11-26 19:45 ` John Bradford
2002-11-27 10:55 ` Keith Owens
2002-11-27 12:03 ` Roman Zippel
2002-11-27 12:19 ` Keith Owens
2002-11-27 19:01 ` Sam Ravnborg
2002-11-27 19:14 ` Kai Germaschewski
2002-11-26 20:05 ` Alan Cox
2002-11-26 23:21 ` Roger Gammans
2002-11-27 6:10 ` Greg KH
2002-11-26 17:57 Dennis Grant
2002-11-26 18:11 ` Andrew Walrond
2002-11-26 18:24 ` Rusty Lynch
2002-11-26 23:46 ` Lee Leahu
2002-11-26 9:15 Thomas Hood
2002-11-25 19:30 Dennis Grant
2002-11-25 20:00 ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-11-26 10:57 ` Adrian Bunk
2002-11-26 14:44 ` Alan Cox
2002-11-26 12:33 ` Andrew Walrond
2002-11-28 22:09 ` LA Walsh
2002-11-29 1:28 ` Miles Bader
2002-11-29 10:04 ` Andrew Walrond
2002-11-29 10:21 ` Miles Bader
2002-11-25 17:33 Dennis Grant
2002-11-25 18:10 ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-11-25 18:58 ` Samuel Flory
2002-11-26 16:58 ` Kai Henningsen
2002-11-26 4:24 ` Theodore Ts'o
2002-11-26 8:21 ` john slee
2002-11-26 8:35 ` Brad Hards
2002-11-26 19:59 ` Otto Wyss
2002-11-27 0:29 ` Alan Cox
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