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From: John Bradford <john@grabjohn.com>
To: trog@wincom.net
Cc: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, dpaun@rogers.com,
	rusty@linux.co.intel.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: A Kernel Configuration Tale of Woe
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 19:45:50 +0000 (GMT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200211261945.gAQJjoRe000267@darkstar.example.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3de3cc8d.54dd.0@wincom.net> from "Dennis Grant" at Nov 26, 2002 02:28:29 PM

> > For boards its not that simple. Many vendors release multiple >
> > utterly different machines with the same box, bios and ident.
> > The customer is told "IDE CD, 100mbit ethernet", the customer
> > gets random cheapest going ethernet.
> 
> Agreed - so then the association between "board" and "chipset" must
> be capable of being multi-valued, and when there is a mult-valued
> match there must be some means of further interrogating the user (or
> user agent) for more information.

This demonstrates a very important point - _any_ automatic
configuration program is likely to cause more traffic to this mailing
list, and create more work for users and developers that the current
automatic configuration process:

echo 'My box doesn't boot' | mail linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org

The kernel knows nothing about motherboards, cards, etc.  It knows
about chipsets, and nothing else.  By definition, you cannot have a
kernel configurator that works at a higher level than that.

Why don't we introduce a make allworkingmodules config, which compiles
everything as modules, except for the things that are broken as
modules, (for example IDE in the current 2.5.x tree would be compiled
in).

John.

  reply	other threads:[~2002-11-26 19:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-11-26 19:28 A Kernel Configuration Tale of Woe Dennis Grant
2002-11-26 19:45 ` John Bradford [this message]
2002-11-27 10:55   ` Keith Owens
2002-11-27 12:03     ` Roman Zippel
2002-11-27 12:19       ` Keith Owens
2002-11-27 19:01         ` Sam Ravnborg
2002-11-27 19:14         ` Kai Germaschewski
2002-11-26 20:05 ` Alan Cox
2002-11-26 23:21   ` Roger Gammans
2002-11-27  6:10     ` Greg KH
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-11-27 17:52 Dennis Grant
2002-11-27 18:01 ` Alex Riesen
2002-11-27 17:47 Mark H. Wood
     [not found] <fa.ivlir9v.u14v3p@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found] ` <fa.gaum5rv.1j3snhh@ifi.uio.no>
2002-11-27  8:43   ` Giacomo Catenazzi
2002-11-27 10:12     ` John Bradford
2002-11-26 17:57 Dennis Grant
2002-11-26 18:11 ` Andrew Walrond
2002-11-26 18:24   ` Rusty Lynch
2002-11-26 23:46     ` Lee Leahu
2002-11-26 15:35 Dennis Grant
2002-11-26 17:01 ` Kai Henningsen
2002-11-26 17:35 ` Rusty Lynch
2002-11-26 18:04   ` Dimitrie O. Paun
2002-11-26 18:46     ` Alan Cox
2002-11-26 18:48 ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-11-26  9:15 Thomas Hood
2002-11-25 19:30 Dennis Grant
2002-11-25 20:00 ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-11-26 10:57   ` Adrian Bunk
2002-11-26 14:44     ` Alan Cox
2002-11-26 12:33 ` Andrew Walrond
2002-11-28 22:09   ` LA Walsh
2002-11-29  1:28     ` Miles Bader
2002-11-29 10:04       ` Andrew Walrond
2002-11-29 10:21         ` Miles Bader
2002-11-25 17:33 Dennis Grant
2002-11-25 18:10 ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-11-25 18:58   ` Samuel Flory
2002-11-26 16:58   ` Kai Henningsen
2002-11-26  4:24 ` Theodore Ts'o
2002-11-26  8:21 ` john slee
2002-11-26  8:35   ` Brad Hards
2002-11-26 19:59     ` Otto Wyss
2002-11-27  0:29       ` Alan Cox

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