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* ipsec01-02-03-04 installation problem
@ 2006-01-18 23:19 webmaster @ elnportal.it
  2006-01-19  8:52 ` Marco Berizzi
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: webmaster @ elnportal.it @ 2006-01-18 23:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: netfilter-devel


 Hi to all, I've read that with ipsec patches applied to kernel I can do 
SNA=
T with tunneling that doesn't use virtual interface (like openswan on 2.6.1=
4 kernel without klips)

How can I obtain these patches ?
How can I apply it to kernel ?
Should I recompile iptables from tarball after applying these patches ?

I've read that there is a patch o matic, but I'm not able to download it...=
.

Please help

By

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* RE: ipsec01-02-03-04 installation problem
  2006-01-18 23:19 ipsec01-02-03-04 installation problem webmaster @ elnportal.it
@ 2006-01-19  8:52 ` Marco Berizzi
  2006-01-19 18:05   ` webmaster @ elnportal.it
  2006-01-22 12:57     ` webmaster @ elnportal.it
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Marco Berizzi @ 2006-01-19  8:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: webmaster, netfilter-devel; +Cc: netfilter


webmaster @ elnportal.it wrote:

>Hi to all, I've read that with ipsec patches applied to kernel I can do 
>SNA=

Upgrade to 2.6.16-rc1. Those patches are now in the mainline kernel.
Also see 
https://lists.netfilter.org/pipermail/netfilter-devel/2006-January/023002.html
You should upgrade to a current iptables snapshot version.




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* Re: ipsec01-02-03-04 installation problem
  2006-01-19  8:52 ` Marco Berizzi
@ 2006-01-19 18:05   ` webmaster @ elnportal.it
  2006-01-19 18:19     ` Marco Berizzi
  2006-01-22 12:57     ` webmaster @ elnportal.it
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: webmaster @ elnportal.it @ 2006-01-19 18:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Marco Berizzi; +Cc: netfilter-devel

So I must install 2.6.16-rc1 kernel and then obtain dev version of netfilter 
?
 

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* Re: ipsec01-02-03-04 installation problem
  2006-01-19 18:05   ` webmaster @ elnportal.it
@ 2006-01-19 18:19     ` Marco Berizzi
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Marco Berizzi @ 2006-01-19 18:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: webmaster; +Cc: netfilter



webmaster @ elnportal.it wrote:

>So I must install 2.6.16-rc1 kernel and then obtain dev version of 
>netfilter ?

a recent (snapshot) version of iptables, not netfilter.




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* Re: ipsec01-02-03-04 installation problem
       [not found] <BAY103-F14C083B182E5CD80A0A34FB21F0@phx.gbl>
@ 2006-01-22 11:21 ` webmaster @ elnportal.it
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: webmaster @ elnportal.it @ 2006-01-22 11:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Marco Berizzi; +Cc: netfilter-devel

Ok, I've downloaded the kernel 2.6.16-rc1, under make menuconfig I've enbled 
XFRM [IPSec] Networking Security Hooks

and recompiled ....

That's all with kernel stuffs ?

Now I only need to rebuild iptables from snapshots ? Ty 

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* Re: ipsec01-02-03-04 installation problem
  2006-01-19  8:52 ` Marco Berizzi
@ 2006-01-22 12:57     ` webmaster @ elnportal.it
  2006-01-22 12:57     ` webmaster @ elnportal.it
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: webmaster @ elnportal.it @ 2006-01-22 12:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Marco Berizzi, netfilter-devel; +Cc: netfilter

Here the passages followed for installing iptables with SNAT support through 
ipsec tunnel:

1_ Downloaded from kernel.org 2.6.16-rc1.tar.bz2 kernel
2_ untarred it to /usr/src
3_ make mrproper
4_ copy an old .config file from 2.6.14 sources (Fedora Core 4)
5_ ln -s linux-2.6.16-rc1/ linux
6_ make oldconfig (hitting enter on all query)
7_ make menuconfig
8_ XFRM [IPSec] Networking Security Hooks
9_ Exit and save kernel configuration
10_ make all
11_ make modules_install
12_ make install
13_ reboot

14_ rpm -e --nodep iptables
15_ untar tarball (snapshot of iptables)
16_ make (under src directory of iptables)
17_ make install
18_ iptables -L

iptables v1.3.4-20060121: can't initialize iptables table `filter': iptables 
who? (do you need to insmod?)
Perhaps iptables or your kernel needs to be upgraded.

Seeking for modules under /lib/modules/2.6.16-rc1/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter

I could see only

-rw-r--r--  1 root root  196238 22 gen 14:15 ip_conntrack_amanda.ko
-rw-r--r--  1 root root  227391 22 gen 14:15 ip_conntrack_ftp.ko
-rw-r--r--  1 root root  208996 22 gen 14:15 ip_conntrack_irc.ko
-rw-r--r--  1 root root 1136548 22 gen 14:15 ip_conntrack.ko
-rw-r--r--  1 root root  167689 22 gen 14:15 ip_conntrack_netbios_ns.ko
-rw-r--r--  1 root root  295709 22 gen 14:15 ip_conntrack_netlink.ko
-rw-r--r--  1 root root  340536 22 gen 14:15 ip_conntrack_pptp.ko
-rw-r--r--  1 root root  171796 22 gen 14:15 ip_conntrack_proto_sctp.ko
-rw-r--r--  1 root root  193359 22 gen 14:15 ip_conntrack_tftp.ko
-rw-r--r--  1 root root  232080 22 gen 14:15 ip_queue.ko

If I look under my previously installed kernel I can see ( 
/lib/modules/2.6.14-1.1656_FC4/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter):

-rwxr--r--  1 root root  7032  6 gen 04:37 arptable_filter.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root 23680  6 gen 04:37 arp_tables.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root  6000  6 gen 04:37 arpt_mangle.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root 10096  6 gen 04:37 ip_conntrack_amanda.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root 13816  6 gen 04:37 ip_conntrack_ftp.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root 12656  6 gen 04:37 ip_conntrack_irc.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root 93392  6 gen 04:37 ip_conntrack.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root  6760  6 gen 04:37 ip_conntrack_netbios_ns.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root 39808  6 gen 04:37 ip_conntrack_netlink.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root 21152  6 gen 04:37 ip_conntrack_pptp.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root 16840  6 gen 04:37 ip_conntrack_proto_sctp.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root  8832  6 gen 04:37 ip_conntrack_tftp.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root  5744  6 gen 04:37 ip_nat_amanda.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root  7864  6 gen 04:37 ip_nat_ftp.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root  6448  6 gen 04:37 ip_nat_irc.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root 31960  6 gen 04:37 ip_nat.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root 13216  6 gen 04:37 ip_nat_pptp.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root 19112  6 gen 04:37 ip_nat_snmp_basic.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root  4992  6 gen 04:37 ip_nat_tftp.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root 21032  6 gen 04:37 ip_queue.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root  8536  6 gen 04:37 iptable_filter.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root  8432  6 gen 04:37 iptable_mangle.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root 16048  6 gen 04:37 iptable_nat.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root  6288  6 gen 04:37 iptable_raw.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root 37424  6 gen 04:37 ip_tables.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root  5392  6 gen 04:37 ipt_addrtype.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root  5112  6 gen 04:37 ipt_ah.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root  5592  6 gen 04:37 ipt_CLASSIFY.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root 16288  6 gen 04:37 ipt_CLUSTERIP.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root  4736  6 gen 04:37 ipt_comment.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root  5280  6 gen 04:37 ipt_connbytes.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root  5232  6 gen 04:37 ipt_connmark.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root  5720  6 gen 04:37 ipt_CONNMARK.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root  5856  6 gen 04:37 ipt_conntrack.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root  7040  6 gen 04:37 ipt_dccp.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root  4728  6 gen 04:37 ipt_dscp.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root  6040  6 gen 04:37 ipt_DSCP.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root  5632  6 gen 04:37 ipt_ecn.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root  7016  6 gen 04:37 ipt_ECN.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root  5112  6 gen 04:37 ipt_esp.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root 17056  6 gen 04:37 ipt_hashlimit.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root  5656  6 gen 04:37 ipt_helper.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root  4864  6 gen 04:37 ipt_iprange.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root  4728  6 gen 04:37 ipt_length.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root  6056  6 gen 04:37 ipt_limit.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root 15800  6 gen 04:37 ipt_LOG.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root  5216  6 gen 04:37 ipt_mac.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root  5088  6 gen 04:37 ipt_mark.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root  6592  6 gen 04:37 ipt_MARK.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root  8008  6 gen 04:37 ipt_MASQUERADE.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root  6144  6 gen 04:37 ipt_multiport.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root  5232  6 gen 04:37 ipt_NETMAP.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root  5224  6 gen 04:37 ipt_NFQUEUE.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root  5424  6 gen 04:37 ipt_NOTRACK.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root  5576  6 gen 04:37 ipt_owner.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root  5264  6 gen 04:37 ipt_physdev.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root  4736  6 gen 04:37 ipt_pkttype.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root  5208  6 gen 04:37 ipt_realm.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root 20632  6 gen 04:37 ipt_recent.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root  5256  6 gen 04:37 ipt_REDIRECT.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root 11064  6 gen 04:37 ipt_REJECT.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root  5840  6 gen 04:37 ipt_SAME.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root  5920  6 gen 04:37 ipt_sctp.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root  5168  6 gen 04:37 ipt_state.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root  5496  6 gen 04:37 ipt_string.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root  5768  6 gen 04:37 ipt_tcpmss.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root  8248  6 gen 04:37 ipt_TCPMSS.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root  4552  6 gen 04:37 ipt_tos.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root  6040  6 gen 04:37 ipt_TOS.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root  5208  6 gen 04:37 ipt_ttl.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root  6048  6 gen 04:37 ipt_TTL.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root 14120  6 gen 04:37 ipt_ULOG.ko


What I'm missing when I try to compile 2.6.16 kernel ?

TY



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* Re: ipsec01-02-03-04 installation problem
@ 2006-01-22 12:57     ` webmaster @ elnportal.it
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: webmaster @ elnportal.it @ 2006-01-22 12:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Marco Berizzi, netfilter-devel; +Cc: netfilter

Here the passages followed for installing iptables with SNAT support through 
ipsec tunnel:

1_ Downloaded from kernel.org 2.6.16-rc1.tar.bz2 kernel
2_ untarred it to /usr/src
3_ make mrproper
4_ copy an old .config file from 2.6.14 sources (Fedora Core 4)
5_ ln -s linux-2.6.16-rc1/ linux
6_ make oldconfig (hitting enter on all query)
7_ make menuconfig
8_ XFRM [IPSec] Networking Security Hooks
9_ Exit and save kernel configuration
10_ make all
11_ make modules_install
12_ make install
13_ reboot

14_ rpm -e --nodep iptables
15_ untar tarball (snapshot of iptables)
16_ make (under src directory of iptables)
17_ make install
18_ iptables -L

iptables v1.3.4-20060121: can't initialize iptables table `filter': iptables 
who? (do you need to insmod?)
Perhaps iptables or your kernel needs to be upgraded.

Seeking for modules under /lib/modules/2.6.16-rc1/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter

I could see only

-rw-r--r--  1 root root  196238 22 gen 14:15 ip_conntrack_amanda.ko
-rw-r--r--  1 root root  227391 22 gen 14:15 ip_conntrack_ftp.ko
-rw-r--r--  1 root root  208996 22 gen 14:15 ip_conntrack_irc.ko
-rw-r--r--  1 root root 1136548 22 gen 14:15 ip_conntrack.ko
-rw-r--r--  1 root root  167689 22 gen 14:15 ip_conntrack_netbios_ns.ko
-rw-r--r--  1 root root  295709 22 gen 14:15 ip_conntrack_netlink.ko
-rw-r--r--  1 root root  340536 22 gen 14:15 ip_conntrack_pptp.ko
-rw-r--r--  1 root root  171796 22 gen 14:15 ip_conntrack_proto_sctp.ko
-rw-r--r--  1 root root  193359 22 gen 14:15 ip_conntrack_tftp.ko
-rw-r--r--  1 root root  232080 22 gen 14:15 ip_queue.ko

If I look under my previously installed kernel I can see ( 
/lib/modules/2.6.14-1.1656_FC4/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter):

-rwxr--r--  1 root root  7032  6 gen 04:37 arptable_filter.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root 23680  6 gen 04:37 arp_tables.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root  6000  6 gen 04:37 arpt_mangle.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root 10096  6 gen 04:37 ip_conntrack_amanda.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root 13816  6 gen 04:37 ip_conntrack_ftp.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root 12656  6 gen 04:37 ip_conntrack_irc.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root 93392  6 gen 04:37 ip_conntrack.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root  6760  6 gen 04:37 ip_conntrack_netbios_ns.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root 39808  6 gen 04:37 ip_conntrack_netlink.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root 21152  6 gen 04:37 ip_conntrack_pptp.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root 16840  6 gen 04:37 ip_conntrack_proto_sctp.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root  8832  6 gen 04:37 ip_conntrack_tftp.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root  5744  6 gen 04:37 ip_nat_amanda.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root  7864  6 gen 04:37 ip_nat_ftp.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root  6448  6 gen 04:37 ip_nat_irc.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root 31960  6 gen 04:37 ip_nat.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root 13216  6 gen 04:37 ip_nat_pptp.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root 19112  6 gen 04:37 ip_nat_snmp_basic.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root  4992  6 gen 04:37 ip_nat_tftp.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root 21032  6 gen 04:37 ip_queue.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root  8536  6 gen 04:37 iptable_filter.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root  8432  6 gen 04:37 iptable_mangle.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root 16048  6 gen 04:37 iptable_nat.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root  6288  6 gen 04:37 iptable_raw.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root 37424  6 gen 04:37 ip_tables.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root  5392  6 gen 04:37 ipt_addrtype.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root  5112  6 gen 04:37 ipt_ah.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root  5592  6 gen 04:37 ipt_CLASSIFY.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root 16288  6 gen 04:37 ipt_CLUSTERIP.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root  4736  6 gen 04:37 ipt_comment.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root  5280  6 gen 04:37 ipt_connbytes.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root  5232  6 gen 04:37 ipt_connmark.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root  5720  6 gen 04:37 ipt_CONNMARK.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root  5856  6 gen 04:37 ipt_conntrack.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root  7040  6 gen 04:37 ipt_dccp.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root  4728  6 gen 04:37 ipt_dscp.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root  6040  6 gen 04:37 ipt_DSCP.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root  5632  6 gen 04:37 ipt_ecn.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root  7016  6 gen 04:37 ipt_ECN.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root  5112  6 gen 04:37 ipt_esp.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root 17056  6 gen 04:37 ipt_hashlimit.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root  5656  6 gen 04:37 ipt_helper.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root  4864  6 gen 04:37 ipt_iprange.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root  4728  6 gen 04:37 ipt_length.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root  6056  6 gen 04:37 ipt_limit.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root 15800  6 gen 04:37 ipt_LOG.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root  5216  6 gen 04:37 ipt_mac.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root  5088  6 gen 04:37 ipt_mark.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root  6592  6 gen 04:37 ipt_MARK.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root  8008  6 gen 04:37 ipt_MASQUERADE.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root  6144  6 gen 04:37 ipt_multiport.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root  5232  6 gen 04:37 ipt_NETMAP.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root  5224  6 gen 04:37 ipt_NFQUEUE.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root  5424  6 gen 04:37 ipt_NOTRACK.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root  5576  6 gen 04:37 ipt_owner.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root  5264  6 gen 04:37 ipt_physdev.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root  4736  6 gen 04:37 ipt_pkttype.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root  5208  6 gen 04:37 ipt_realm.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root 20632  6 gen 04:37 ipt_recent.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root  5256  6 gen 04:37 ipt_REDIRECT.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root 11064  6 gen 04:37 ipt_REJECT.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root  5840  6 gen 04:37 ipt_SAME.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root  5920  6 gen 04:37 ipt_sctp.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root  5168  6 gen 04:37 ipt_state.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root  5496  6 gen 04:37 ipt_string.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root  5768  6 gen 04:37 ipt_tcpmss.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root  8248  6 gen 04:37 ipt_TCPMSS.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root  4552  6 gen 04:37 ipt_tos.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root  6040  6 gen 04:37 ipt_TOS.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root  5208  6 gen 04:37 ipt_ttl.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root  6048  6 gen 04:37 ipt_TTL.ko
-rwxr--r--  1 root root 14120  6 gen 04:37 ipt_ULOG.ko


What I'm missing when I try to compile 2.6.16 kernel ?

TY

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* Re: ipsec01-02-03-04 installation problem
  2006-01-22 12:57     ` webmaster @ elnportal.it
  (?)
@ 2006-01-24  1:29     ` Yasuyuki KOZAKAI
  -1 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Yasuyuki KOZAKAI @ 2006-01-24  1:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: webmaster; +Cc: netfilter-devel, netfilter, pupilla


Hi,

You may already resolve this, but anyway,

From: "webmaster @ elnportal.it" <webmaster@elnportal.it>
Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 13:57:29 +0100

> Here the passages followed for installing iptables with SNAT support through 
> ipsec tunnel:
> 
> 1_ Downloaded from kernel.org 2.6.16-rc1.tar.bz2 kernel
> 2_ untarred it to /usr/src
> 3_ make mrproper
> 4_ copy an old .config file from 2.6.14 sources (Fedora Core 4)
> 5_ ln -s linux-2.6.16-rc1/ linux
> 6_ make oldconfig (hitting enter on all query)
> 7_ make menuconfig
> 8_ XFRM [IPSec] Networking Security Hooks

I think you need to re-configure netfilter related items. 

Please go to the menu "Network packet filtering (replaces ipchains)",
enable "Netfilter Xtables support (required for ip_tables)",
and enable matches/targets you want use. You may also need to re-configure
"IP: Netfilter Configuration" and "IPv6: Netfilter Configuration"
if you want to use them.

> 9_ Exit and save kernel configuration
> 10_ make all
> 11_ make modules_install
> 12_ make install
> 13_ reboot
> 
> 14_ rpm -e --nodep iptables
> 15_ untar tarball (snapshot of iptables)
> 16_ make (under src directory of iptables)
> 17_ make install
> 18_ iptables -L
> 
> iptables v1.3.4-20060121: can't initialize iptables table `filter': iptables 
> who? (do you need to insmod?)
> Perhaps iptables or your kernel needs to be upgraded.

Regards,

-- Yasuyuki Kozakai


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