From: Dmitry Osipenko <digetx@gmail.com>
To: Mikko Perttunen <cyndis@kapsi.fi>,
Mikko Perttunen <mperttunen@nvidia.com>,
thierry.reding@gmail.com, jonathanh@nvidia.com, airlied@linux.ie,
daniel@ffwll.ch
Cc: linux-tegra@vger.kernel.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
talho@nvidia.com, bhuntsman@nvidia.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 00/21] Host1x/TegraDRM UAPI
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2021 01:06:45 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <007d123f-526a-c68a-3c52-aba165172cdf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9f755e95-97fc-4f57-5e8d-426af589c857@kapsi.fi>
28.01.2021 00:57, Mikko Perttunen пишет:
>
>
> On 1/27/21 11:26 PM, Dmitry Osipenko wrote:
>> 26.01.2021 05:45, Mikko Perttunen пишет:
>>>> 5. The hardware state of sync points should be reset when sync point is
>>>> requested, not when host1x driver is initialized.
>>>
>>> This may be doable, but I don't think it is critical for this UAPI, so
>>> let's consider it after this series.
>>>
>>> The userspace should anyway not be able to assume the initial value of
>>> the syncpoint upon allocation. The kernel should set it to some high
>>> value to catch any issues related to wraparound.
>>
>> This is critical because min != max when sync point is requested.
>
> That I would just consider a bug, and it can be fixed. But it's
> orthogonal to whether the value gets reset every time the syncpoint is
> allocated.
>
>>
>>> Also, this makes code more complicated since it now needs to ensure all
>>> waits on the syncpoint have completed before freeing the syncpoint,
>>> which can be nontrivial e.g. if the waiter is in a different virtual
>>> machine or some other device connected via PCIe (a real usecase).
>>
>> It sounds to me that these VM sync points should be treated very
>> separately from a generic sync points, don't you think so? Let's not mix
>> them and get the generic sync points usable first.
>>
>
> They are not special in any way, I'm just referring to cases where the
> waiter (consumer) is remote. The allocator of the syncpoint (producer)
> doesn't necessarily even need to know about it. The same concern is
> applicable within a single VM, or single application as well. Just
> putting out the point that this is something that needs to be taken care
> of if we were to reset the value.
Will kernel driver know that it deals with a VM sync point?
Will it be possible to get a non-VM sync point explicitly?
If driver knows that it deals with a VM sync point, then we can treat it
specially, avoiding the reset and etc.
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Dmitry Osipenko <digetx@gmail.com>
To: Mikko Perttunen <cyndis@kapsi.fi>,
Mikko Perttunen <mperttunen@nvidia.com>,
thierry.reding@gmail.com, jonathanh@nvidia.com, airlied@linux.ie,
daniel@ffwll.ch
Cc: linux-tegra@vger.kernel.org, talho@nvidia.com,
bhuntsman@nvidia.com, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 00/21] Host1x/TegraDRM UAPI
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2021 01:06:45 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <007d123f-526a-c68a-3c52-aba165172cdf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9f755e95-97fc-4f57-5e8d-426af589c857@kapsi.fi>
28.01.2021 00:57, Mikko Perttunen пишет:
>
>
> On 1/27/21 11:26 PM, Dmitry Osipenko wrote:
>> 26.01.2021 05:45, Mikko Perttunen пишет:
>>>> 5. The hardware state of sync points should be reset when sync point is
>>>> requested, not when host1x driver is initialized.
>>>
>>> This may be doable, but I don't think it is critical for this UAPI, so
>>> let's consider it after this series.
>>>
>>> The userspace should anyway not be able to assume the initial value of
>>> the syncpoint upon allocation. The kernel should set it to some high
>>> value to catch any issues related to wraparound.
>>
>> This is critical because min != max when sync point is requested.
>
> That I would just consider a bug, and it can be fixed. But it's
> orthogonal to whether the value gets reset every time the syncpoint is
> allocated.
>
>>
>>> Also, this makes code more complicated since it now needs to ensure all
>>> waits on the syncpoint have completed before freeing the syncpoint,
>>> which can be nontrivial e.g. if the waiter is in a different virtual
>>> machine or some other device connected via PCIe (a real usecase).
>>
>> It sounds to me that these VM sync points should be treated very
>> separately from a generic sync points, don't you think so? Let's not mix
>> them and get the generic sync points usable first.
>>
>
> They are not special in any way, I'm just referring to cases where the
> waiter (consumer) is remote. The allocator of the syncpoint (producer)
> doesn't necessarily even need to know about it. The same concern is
> applicable within a single VM, or single application as well. Just
> putting out the point that this is something that needs to be taken care
> of if we were to reset the value.
Will kernel driver know that it deals with a VM sync point?
Will it be possible to get a non-VM sync point explicitly?
If driver knows that it deals with a VM sync point, then we can treat it
specially, avoiding the reset and etc.
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2021-01-11 12:59 [PATCH v5 00/21] Host1x/TegraDRM UAPI Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-11 12:59 ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-11 12:59 ` [PATCH v5 01/21] gpu: host1x: Use different lock classes for each client Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-11 12:59 ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-03-22 14:46 ` Thierry Reding
2021-03-22 14:46 ` Thierry Reding
2021-03-22 14:48 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-03-22 14:48 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-03-22 15:19 ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-03-22 15:19 ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-03-22 16:01 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-03-22 16:01 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-03-23 10:20 ` Thierry Reding
2021-03-23 10:20 ` Thierry Reding
2021-03-23 13:25 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-03-23 13:25 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-03-26 14:54 ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-03-26 14:54 ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-03-26 18:31 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-03-26 18:31 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-03-26 19:10 ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-03-26 19:10 ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-03-26 22:47 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-03-26 22:47 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-01-11 13:00 ` [PATCH v5 02/21] gpu: host1x: Allow syncpoints without associated client Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-11 13:00 ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-03-23 10:10 ` Thierry Reding
2021-03-23 10:10 ` Thierry Reding
2021-03-23 10:32 ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-03-23 10:32 ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-11 13:00 ` [PATCH v5 03/21] gpu: host1x: Show number of pending waiters in debugfs Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-11 13:00 ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-03-23 10:16 ` Thierry Reding
2021-03-23 10:16 ` Thierry Reding
2021-03-26 14:34 ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-03-26 14:34 ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-04-01 21:19 ` Michał Mirosław
2021-04-01 21:19 ` Michał Mirosław
2021-04-02 16:02 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-04-02 16:02 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-04-08 4:13 ` Michał Mirosław
2021-04-08 4:13 ` Michał Mirosław
2021-04-08 4:25 ` Michał Mirosław
2021-04-08 4:25 ` Michał Mirosław
2021-04-08 11:58 ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-04-08 11:58 ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-11 13:00 ` [PATCH v5 04/21] gpu: host1x: Remove cancelled waiters immediately Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-11 13:00 ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-12 22:07 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-01-12 22:07 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-01-12 22:20 ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-12 22:20 ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-13 16:29 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-01-13 16:29 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-01-13 18:16 ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-13 18:16 ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-03-23 10:23 ` Thierry Reding
2021-03-23 10:23 ` Thierry Reding
2021-01-11 13:00 ` [PATCH v5 05/21] gpu: host1x: Use HW-equivalent syncpoint expiration check Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-11 13:00 ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-03-23 10:26 ` Thierry Reding
2021-03-23 10:26 ` Thierry Reding
2021-01-11 13:00 ` [PATCH v5 06/21] gpu: host1x: Cleanup and refcounting for syncpoints Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-11 13:00 ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-03-23 10:36 ` Thierry Reding
2021-03-23 10:36 ` Thierry Reding
2021-03-23 10:44 ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-03-23 10:44 ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-03-23 11:21 ` Thierry Reding
2021-03-23 11:21 ` Thierry Reding
2021-01-11 13:00 ` [PATCH v5 07/21] gpu: host1x: Introduce UAPI header Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-11 13:00 ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-03-23 10:52 ` Thierry Reding
2021-03-23 10:52 ` Thierry Reding
2021-03-23 11:12 ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-03-23 11:12 ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-03-23 11:43 ` Thierry Reding
2021-03-23 11:43 ` Thierry Reding
2021-01-11 13:00 ` [PATCH v5 08/21] gpu: host1x: Implement /dev/host1x device node Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-11 13:00 ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-03-23 11:02 ` Thierry Reding
2021-03-23 11:02 ` Thierry Reding
2021-03-23 11:15 ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-03-23 11:15 ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-11 13:00 ` [PATCH v5 09/21] gpu: host1x: DMA fences and userspace fence creation Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-11 13:00 ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-03-23 11:15 ` Thierry Reding
2021-03-23 11:15 ` Thierry Reding
2021-01-11 13:00 ` [PATCH v5 10/21] gpu: host1x: Add no-recovery mode Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-11 13:00 ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-11 13:00 ` [PATCH v5 11/21] gpu: host1x: Add job release callback Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-11 13:00 ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-03-23 11:55 ` Thierry Reding
2021-03-23 11:55 ` Thierry Reding
2021-01-11 13:00 ` [PATCH v5 12/21] gpu: host1x: Add support for syncpoint waits in CDMA pushbuffer Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-11 13:00 ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-11 13:00 ` [PATCH v5 13/21] gpu: host1x: Reset max value when freeing a syncpoint Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-11 13:00 ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-11 13:00 ` [PATCH v5 14/21] gpu: host1x: Reserve VBLANK syncpoints at initialization Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-11 13:00 ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-11 13:00 ` [PATCH v5 15/21] drm/tegra: Add new UAPI to header Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-11 13:00 ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-13 18:14 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-01-13 18:14 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-01-13 18:56 ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-13 18:56 ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-14 8:36 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-01-14 8:36 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-01-14 10:34 ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-14 10:34 ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-03-23 12:30 ` Thierry Reding
2021-03-23 12:30 ` Thierry Reding
2021-03-23 14:00 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-03-23 14:00 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-03-23 16:44 ` Thierry Reding
2021-03-23 16:44 ` Thierry Reding
2021-03-23 17:32 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-03-23 17:32 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-03-23 17:57 ` Thierry Reding
2021-03-23 17:57 ` Thierry Reding
2021-01-11 13:00 ` [PATCH v5 16/21] drm/tegra: Boot VIC during runtime PM resume Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-11 13:00 ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-11 13:00 ` [PATCH v5 17/21] drm/tegra: Set resv fields when importing/exporting GEMs Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-11 13:00 ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-11 13:00 ` [PATCH v5 18/21] drm/tegra: Allocate per-engine channel in core code Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-11 13:00 ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-03-23 12:35 ` Thierry Reding
2021-03-23 12:35 ` Thierry Reding
2021-03-23 13:15 ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-03-23 13:15 ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-11 13:00 ` [PATCH v5 19/21] drm/tegra: Implement new UAPI Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-11 13:00 ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-11 17:37 ` kernel test robot
2021-01-11 17:37 ` kernel test robot
2021-01-11 17:37 ` kernel test robot
2021-01-12 22:27 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-01-12 22:27 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-03-23 13:25 ` Thierry Reding
2021-03-23 13:25 ` Thierry Reding
2021-03-23 14:43 ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-03-23 14:43 ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-03-23 15:00 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-03-23 15:00 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-03-23 16:59 ` Thierry Reding
2021-03-23 16:59 ` Thierry Reding
2021-01-11 13:00 ` [PATCH v5 20/21] drm/tegra: Implement job submission part of " Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-11 13:00 ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-03-23 13:38 ` Thierry Reding
2021-03-23 13:38 ` Thierry Reding
2021-03-23 14:16 ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-03-23 14:16 ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-03-23 17:04 ` Thierry Reding
2021-03-23 17:04 ` Thierry Reding
2021-01-11 13:00 ` [PATCH v5 21/21] drm/tegra: Add job firewall Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-11 13:00 ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-19 22:29 ` [PATCH v5 00/21] Host1x/TegraDRM UAPI Dmitry Osipenko
2021-01-19 22:29 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-01-26 2:45 ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-26 2:45 ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-27 21:20 ` [PATCH v5 00/21] Host1x sync point UAPI should not be used for tracking DRM jobs Dmitry Osipenko
2021-01-27 21:20 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-01-28 11:08 ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-28 11:08 ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-28 16:58 ` Thierry Reding
2021-01-28 16:58 ` Thierry Reding
2021-01-29 17:30 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-01-29 17:30 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-02-03 11:18 ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-02-03 11:18 ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-02-27 11:19 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-02-27 11:19 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-03-01 8:19 ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-03-01 8:19 ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-03-23 18:21 ` Thierry Reding
2021-03-23 18:21 ` Thierry Reding
2021-03-23 19:57 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-03-23 19:57 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-03-23 20:13 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-03-23 20:13 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-01-27 21:26 ` [PATCH v5 00/21] Host1x/TegraDRM UAPI Dmitry Osipenko
2021-01-27 21:26 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-01-27 21:57 ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-27 21:57 ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-27 22:06 ` Dmitry Osipenko [this message]
2021-01-27 22:06 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-01-28 11:46 ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-28 11:46 ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-27 21:35 ` [PATCH v5 00/21] sync_file API is not very suitable for DRM Dmitry Osipenko
2021-01-27 21:35 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-01-27 21:53 ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-27 21:53 ` Mikko Perttunen
2021-01-27 22:26 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-01-27 22:26 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-01-27 21:52 ` [PATCH v5 00/21] support option where all commands are collected into a single,dedicated cmdstream Dmitry Osipenko
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