From: "Steve Wise" <swise@opengridcomputing.com>
To: "'Jason Gunthorpe'" <jgunthorpe@obsidianresearch.com>
Cc: <dledford@redhat.com>, <infinipath@intel.com>,
<sagig@mellanox.com>, <ogerlitz@mellanox.com>,
<roid@mellanox.com>, <linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org>,
<eli@mellanox.com>, <target-devel@vger.kernel.org>,
<linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>, <bfields@fieldses.org>
Subject: RE: [PATCH V6 9/9] isert: Support iWARP transports using FRMRs
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 14:57:45 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <00db01d0c64b$01f40300$05dc0900$@opengridcomputing.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150724192411.GC26225@obsidianresearch.com>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jason Gunthorpe [mailto:jgunthorpe@obsidianresearch.com]
> Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 2:24 PM
> To: Steve Wise
> Cc: dledford@redhat.com; infinipath@intel.com; sagig@mellanox.com; ogerlitz@mellanox.com; roid@mellanox.com; linux-
> rdma@vger.kernel.org; eli@mellanox.com; target-devel@vger.kernel.org; linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org; bfields@fieldses.org
> Subject: Re: [PATCH V6 9/9] isert: Support iWARP transports using FRMRs
>
> On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 01:48:09PM -0500, Steve Wise wrote:
> > > The use of FRWR for RDMA READ should be iWarp specific, IB shouldn't
> > > pay that overhead. I am expecting to see a cap_rdma_read_rkey or
> > > something in here ?
> >
> > Ok. But cap_rdma_read_rkey() doesn't really describe the
> > requirement. The requirement is rkey + REMOTE_WRITE. So it is more
> > like rdma_cap_read_requires_remote_write() which is ugly and too
> > long (but descriptive)...
>
> I don't care much what name you pick, just jam something like this in
> the description
>
> If set then RDMA_READ must be performed by mapping the local
> buffers through a rkey MR with ACCESS_REMOTE_WRITE enabled.
> The rkey of this MR should be passed in as the sg_lists's lkey for
> IB_WR_RDMA_READ_WITH_INV.
>
> FRWR should be used to register the buffer in the send queue,
> and the read should be issued using IB_WR_RDMA_READ_WITH_INV (xx
> can we just implicitly rely on this? Are there any iWarp cards that
> support FRWR but not WITH_INV?)
>
No. And iWARP devices must support READ_WITH_INV from my reading of the iWARP verbs spec.
I will add all these comments and make use of READ_WITH_INV.
> Finally, only a single SGE can be used with RDMA_READ, all scattering
> must be accomplished with the MR.
>
> This quite dramatically changes what is an allowed scatter for the
> transfer, IB can support arbitary unaligned S/G lists, while this is
> now forced into gapless page aligned elements.
>
> Your patch takes care of this? And only impacts IB?
Did you mean "only impacts iWARP?"
Yes the patch takes care of sg->fr page list packing. And it uses the existing isert_map_fr_pagelist() to pack the sg into the
fastreg page list. This same routine is used by the IB FRMR/PI reg/unreg routines as well.
None of this impacts isert over IB, assuming the suggested change above to only use the new reg/unreg functions for devices that
need the iwarp style of read. IE IB devices will either use the existing FRMR/PI methods if they support FRMR/LOCAL_DMA_LKEY/PI
(mlx5) or they will use the existing DMA_MR methods (all the rest of the IB devices). IW devices will get my new reg/unreg
methods...
Steve.
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: "Steve Wise" <swise@opengridcomputing.com>
To: 'Jason Gunthorpe' <jgunthorpe@obsidianresearch.com>
Cc: dledford@redhat.com, infinipath@intel.com, sagig@mellanox.com,
ogerlitz@mellanox.com, roid@mellanox.com,
linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org, eli@mellanox.com,
target-devel@vger.kernel.org, linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org,
bfields@fieldses.org
Subject: RE: [PATCH V6 9/9] isert: Support iWARP transports using FRMRs
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 14:57:45 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <00db01d0c64b$01f40300$05dc0900$@opengridcomputing.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150724192411.GC26225@obsidianresearch.com>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jason Gunthorpe [mailto:jgunthorpe@obsidianresearch.com]
> Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 2:24 PM
> To: Steve Wise
> Cc: dledford@redhat.com; infinipath@intel.com; sagig@mellanox.com; ogerlitz@mellanox.com; roid@mellanox.com; linux-
> rdma@vger.kernel.org; eli@mellanox.com; target-devel@vger.kernel.org; linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org; bfields@fieldses.org
> Subject: Re: [PATCH V6 9/9] isert: Support iWARP transports using FRMRs
>
> On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 01:48:09PM -0500, Steve Wise wrote:
> > > The use of FRWR for RDMA READ should be iWarp specific, IB shouldn't
> > > pay that overhead. I am expecting to see a cap_rdma_read_rkey or
> > > something in here ?
> >
> > Ok. But cap_rdma_read_rkey() doesn't really describe the
> > requirement. The requirement is rkey + REMOTE_WRITE. So it is more
> > like rdma_cap_read_requires_remote_write() which is ugly and too
> > long (but descriptive)...
>
> I don't care much what name you pick, just jam something like this in
> the description
>
> If set then RDMA_READ must be performed by mapping the local
> buffers through a rkey MR with ACCESS_REMOTE_WRITE enabled.
> The rkey of this MR should be passed in as the sg_lists's lkey for
> IB_WR_RDMA_READ_WITH_INV.
>
> FRWR should be used to register the buffer in the send queue,
> and the read should be issued using IB_WR_RDMA_READ_WITH_INV (xx
> can we just implicitly rely on this? Are there any iWarp cards that
> support FRWR but not WITH_INV?)
>
No. And iWARP devices must support READ_WITH_INV from my reading of the iWARP verbs spec.
I will add all these comments and make use of READ_WITH_INV.
> Finally, only a single SGE can be used with RDMA_READ, all scattering
> must be accomplished with the MR.
>
> This quite dramatically changes what is an allowed scatter for the
> transfer, IB can support arbitary unaligned S/G lists, while this is
> now forced into gapless page aligned elements.
>
> Your patch takes care of this? And only impacts IB?
Did you mean "only impacts iWARP?"
Yes the patch takes care of sg->fr page list packing. And it uses the existing isert_map_fr_pagelist() to pack the sg into the
fastreg page list. This same routine is used by the IB FRMR/PI reg/unreg routines as well.
None of this impacts isert over IB, assuming the suggested change above to only use the new reg/unreg functions for devices that
need the iwarp style of read. IE IB devices will either use the existing FRMR/PI methods if they support FRMR/LOCAL_DMA_LKEY/PI
(mlx5) or they will use the existing DMA_MR methods (all the rest of the IB devices). IW devices will get my new reg/unreg
methods...
Steve.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-07-24 19:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-07-24 16:18 [PATCH V6 0/9] iSER support for iWARP Steve Wise
2015-07-24 16:18 ` Steve Wise
2015-07-24 16:18 ` [PATCH V6 1/9] RDMA/iser: Limit sg tablesize and max_sectors to device fastreg max depth Steve Wise
2015-07-24 16:18 ` Steve Wise
2015-07-24 16:41 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-07-24 16:41 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-07-24 18:40 ` Steve Wise
2015-07-24 18:40 ` Steve Wise
2015-07-24 19:14 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-07-26 9:58 ` Sagi Grimberg
2015-07-26 9:57 ` Sagi Grimberg
2015-07-26 9:57 ` Sagi Grimberg
2015-07-24 16:18 ` [PATCH V6 2/9] mlx4, mlx5, mthca: Expose max_sge_rd correctly Steve Wise
2015-07-24 16:18 ` Steve Wise
2015-07-24 16:18 ` [PATCH V6 3/9] ipath,qib: " Steve Wise
2015-07-24 16:18 ` Steve Wise
2015-07-24 16:18 ` [PATCH V6 4/9] svcrdma: Use max_sge_rd for destination read depths Steve Wise
2015-07-24 16:18 ` Steve Wise
2015-07-24 18:51 ` Steve Wise
2015-07-24 18:51 ` Steve Wise
2015-07-26 9:58 ` Sagi Grimberg
2015-07-26 10:42 ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-07-26 10:42 ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-07-24 16:18 ` [PATCH V6 5/9] RDMA/isert: Limit read depth based on the device max_sge_rd capability Steve Wise
2015-07-24 16:18 ` [PATCH V6 6/9] isert: Rename IO functions to more descriptive names Steve Wise
2015-07-24 16:18 ` Steve Wise
2015-07-26 10:08 ` Sagi Grimberg
2015-07-26 10:08 ` Sagi Grimberg
2015-07-26 10:43 ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-07-26 10:43 ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-07-26 11:00 ` Sagi Grimberg
2015-07-26 11:00 ` Sagi Grimberg
2015-07-26 15:53 ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-07-26 16:44 ` Sagi Grimberg
2015-07-26 17:32 ` Steve Wise
2015-07-26 17:32 ` Steve Wise
2015-07-26 17:40 ` Sagi Grimberg
2015-07-26 20:15 ` Steve Wise
2015-07-26 20:15 ` Steve Wise
2015-07-26 20:17 ` Steve Wise
2015-07-26 20:17 ` Steve Wise
2015-07-27 21:45 ` Steve Wise
2015-07-27 21:45 ` Steve Wise
2015-08-03 19:32 ` Steve Wise
2015-08-03 19:32 ` Steve Wise
2015-08-04 17:26 ` Sagi Grimberg
2015-08-04 17:44 ` Steve Wise
2015-08-04 17:44 ` Steve Wise
2015-08-05 21:23 ` Steve Wise
2015-08-05 21:23 ` Steve Wise
2015-08-06 15:37 ` Sagi Grimberg
2015-08-06 15:37 ` Sagi Grimberg
2015-08-12 22:15 ` Steve Wise
2015-08-12 22:15 ` Steve Wise
2015-08-13 13:09 ` Sagi Grimberg
2015-07-24 16:18 ` [PATCH V6 7/9] isert: Use the device's max fastreg page list depth Steve Wise
2015-07-24 16:18 ` [PATCH V6 8/9] isert: Use local_dma_lkey whenever possible Steve Wise
2015-07-24 16:49 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-07-24 16:49 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-07-24 18:41 ` Steve Wise
2015-07-24 18:41 ` Steve Wise
2015-07-24 16:19 ` [PATCH V6 9/9] isert: Support iWARP transports using FRMRs Steve Wise
2015-07-24 16:57 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-07-24 18:48 ` Steve Wise
2015-07-24 18:48 ` Steve Wise
2015-07-24 19:24 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-07-24 19:24 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-07-24 19:57 ` Steve Wise [this message]
2015-07-24 19:57 ` Steve Wise
2015-07-24 22:11 ` Steve Wise
2015-07-24 22:11 ` Steve Wise
2015-07-24 22:38 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-07-24 22:38 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-07-26 10:23 ` Sagi Grimberg
2015-07-26 10:23 ` Sagi Grimberg
2015-07-27 17:07 ` Jason Gunthorpe
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