[parisc-linux] Re: Install GNOME on 712/80

[parisc-linux] Re: Install GNOME on 712/80

[Helge Deller]

On Thursday 05 February 2004 14:56, Jens Simmoleit wrote:
> My question would be, which packages do I need to succesfully install and run GNOME (and only Gnome) on my system? 

No idea. I use KDE.

> In addition to that, where and how must the xserver or gnome or whatever be configured to make it run properly?
> ....
> (II) FBDev(0): using default device
> (II) Running in FRAMEBUFFER Mode
> (**) FBDev(0): Depth 24, (--) framebuffer bpp 32
> (==) FBDev(0): RGB weight 888
> (==) FBDev(0): Default visual is TrueColor
> (==) FBDev(0): Using gamma correction (1.0, 1.0, 1.0)
> (II) FBDev(0): Hardware:  (vidmem: 2048k)
> (II) FBDev(0): Checking Modes against framebuffer device...
> (II) FBDev(0):  mode "1280x1024" ok
> (II) FBDev(0):  mode "1024x768" ok
> (II) FBDev(0):  mode "800x600" ok
> (II) FBDev(0): Checking Modes against monitor...
> (--) FBDev(0): Virtual size is 1280x1024 (pitch 1280)
> (**) FBDev(0): Default mode "800x600": 36.0 MHz (scaled from 0.0 MHz), 35.2
> kHz, 56.2 Hz
> (II) FBDev(0): Modeline "800x600"   36.00  800 824 896 1024  600 601 603 625
> +hsync +vsync
> (==) FBDev(0): DPI set to (75, 75)
> (**) FBDev(0): Using "Shadow Framebuffer"
> (--) Depth 24 pixmap format is 32 bpp
> Fatal server error:
> AddScreen/ScreenInit failed for driver 0

Look at the dmesg kernel log and search for a line which starts with "stifb:".
There you will see the only resolution & bpp color depth which your card
currently supports and then verify your /etc/X11/XFree86.config file to only 
have exactly those values enabled. After that change X11 should start up....

Helge

[parisc-linux] Re: Install GNOME on 712/80

[Helge Deller]

On Thursday 05 February 2004 14:56, Jens Simmoleit wrote:
> My question would be, which packages do I need to succesfully install and run GNOME (and only Gnome) on my system? 

No idea. I use KDE.

> In addition to that, where and how must the xserver or gnome or whatever be configured to make it run properly?
> ....
> (II) FBDev(0): using default device
> (II) Running in FRAMEBUFFER Mode
> (**) FBDev(0): Depth 24, (--) framebuffer bpp 32
> (==) FBDev(0): RGB weight 888
> (==) FBDev(0): Default visual is TrueColor
> (==) FBDev(0): Using gamma correction (1.0, 1.0, 1.0)
> (II) FBDev(0): Hardware:  (vidmem: 2048k)
> (II) FBDev(0): Checking Modes against framebuffer device...
> (II) FBDev(0):  mode "1280x1024" ok
> (II) FBDev(0):  mode "1024x768" ok
> (II) FBDev(0):  mode "800x600" ok
> (II) FBDev(0): Checking Modes against monitor...
> (--) FBDev(0): Virtual size is 1280x1024 (pitch 1280)
> (**) FBDev(0): Default mode "800x600": 36.0 MHz (scaled from 0.0 MHz), 35.2
> kHz, 56.2 Hz
> (II) FBDev(0): Modeline "800x600"   36.00  800 824 896 1024  600 601 603 625
> +hsync +vsync
> (==) FBDev(0): DPI set to (75, 75)
> (**) FBDev(0): Using "Shadow Framebuffer"
> (--) Depth 24 pixmap format is 32 bpp
> Fatal server error:
> AddScreen/ScreenInit failed for driver 0

Look at the dmesg kernel log and search for a line which starts with "stifb:".
There you will see the only resolution & bpp color depth which your card
currently supports and then verify your /etc/X11/XFree86.config file to only 
have exactly those values enabled. After that change X11 should start up....

Helge

[parisc-linux] Re: Install GNOME on 712/80

[Jens Simmoleit]

Hi List,

Helge, thanks for the tip. I reinstalled from scratch installed the xserver
and the gnome packages and it "works now". The gdm started up and said that
he couldn't find the font server, the config file said that also local fonts
can be used, so I isntalled those too and voila the login page appears.

:-)

But now something strange happens, I type in my user and the password at the
gnome desktop login, the screen turns black and after a certain amount of
time the box comes back with the Gnome login prompt (where I started from)?

Seems like the system isn't able to log me on, or create a profile, or
whatever?

What am i missing here????
Do I need a font server? Is there maybe (an)other missing package(s).... I'm
quite sure I have all the gnome packages here, but what about X itself,
somebody has a clue whats missing or wrong? Maybe a config file for the
user?

Any idea?

Greets,
Simmel


> Look at the dmesg kernel log and search for a line which starts with
"stifb:".
> There you will see the only resolution & bpp color depth which your card
> currently supports and then verify your /etc/X11/XFree86.config file to
only
> have exactly those values enabled. After that change X11 should start
up....
>
> Helge
>
>
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[parisc-linux] Re: Install GNOME on 712/80

[Jens Simmoleit]

Hi List,

Helge, thanks for the tip. I reinstalled from scratch installed the xserver
and the gnome packages and it "works now". The gdm started up and said that
he couldn't find the font server, the config file said that also local fonts
can be used, so I isntalled those too and voila the login page appears.

:-)

But now something strange happens, I type in my user and the password at the
gnome desktop login, the screen turns black and after a certain amount of
time the box comes back with the Gnome login prompt (where I started from)?

Seems like the system isn't able to log me on, or create a profile, or
whatever?

What am i missing here????
Do I need a font server? Is there maybe (an)other missing package(s).... I'm
quite sure I have all the gnome packages here, but what about X itself,
somebody has a clue whats missing or wrong? Maybe a config file for the
user?

Any idea?

Greets,
Simmel


> Look at the dmesg kernel log and search for a line which starts with
"stifb:".
> There you will see the only resolution & bpp color depth which your card
> currently supports and then verify your /etc/X11/XFree86.config file to
only
> have exactly those values enabled. After that change X11 should start
up....
>
> Helge
>
>
> -- 
> To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-hppa-request@lists.debian.org
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>
>

[parisc-linux] Additions - Install GNOME on 712/80

[Jens Simmoleit]

Almost forgot one thing :-)

1. My mouse won't work too *argh*

> Hi List,
>
> Helge, thanks for the tip. I reinstalled from scratch installed the
xserver
> and the gnome packages and it "works now". The gdm started up and said
that
> he couldn't find the font server, the config file said that also local
fonts
> can be used, so I isntalled those too and voila the login page appears.
>
> :-)
>
> But now something strange happens, I type in my user and the password at
the
> gnome desktop login, the screen turns black and after a certain amount of
> time the box comes back with the Gnome login prompt (where I started
from)?
>
> Seems like the system isn't able to log me on, or create a profile, or
> whatever?
>
> What am i missing here????
> Do I need a font server? Is there maybe (an)other missing package(s)....
I'm
> quite sure I have all the gnome packages here, but what about X itself,
> somebody has a clue whats missing or wrong? Maybe a config file for the
> user?
>
> Any idea?
>
> Greets,
> Simmel
>
>
> > Look at the dmesg kernel log and search for a line which starts with
> "stifb:".
> > There you will see the only resolution & bpp color depth which your card
> > currently supports and then verify your /etc/X11/XFree86.config file to
> only
> > have exactly those values enabled. After that change X11 should start
> up....
> >
> > Helge
> >
> >
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> listmaster@lists.debian.org
> >
> >
>
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Re: [parisc-linux] Re: Install GNOME on 712/80

[James Bottomley]

On Fri, 2004-02-06 at 10:35, Jens Simmoleit wrote:
> But now something strange happens, I type in my user and the password at the
> gnome desktop login, the screen turns black and after a certain amount of
> time the box comes back with the Gnome login prompt (where I started from)?

Gnome is a known consumer of colour resources, and it's applications
aren't very graceful when they run out (as they do with our 8 bit
framebuffer), it could be that you are simply running out of them.

You can use a true colour visual at this depth (the colours are pretty
ratty, but at least you never run out) by adding

Visual "TrueColor"

To the SubSection "Display" part that covers you.

James

Re: [parisc-linux] Re: Install GNOME on 712/80

[James Bottomley]

On Fri, 2004-02-06 at 10:35, Jens Simmoleit wrote:
> But now something strange happens, I type in my user and the password at the
> gnome desktop login, the screen turns black and after a certain amount of
> time the box comes back with the Gnome login prompt (where I started from)?

Gnome is a known consumer of colour resources, and it's applications
aren't very graceful when they run out (as they do with our 8 bit
framebuffer), it could be that you are simply running out of them.

You can use a true colour visual at this depth (the colours are pretty
ratty, but at least you never run out) by adding

Visual "TrueColor"

To the SubSection "Display" part that covers you.

James

RE: [parisc-linux] Additions - Install GNOME on 712/80

[Joel Soete]

Hi Jens,

>1. My mouse won't work too *argh*

2. that is why you couldn't login with your user (i presume not root) :)

X absolutely need a mouse pointer :(

iirc you should have this entry in your XF86config-4 file:
Section "InputDevice"
        Identifier      "Configured Mouse"
        Driver          "mouse"
        Option          "CorePointer"
        Option          "Device"                "/dev/psaux"
        Option          "Protocol"              "PS/2"
EndSection

Check that /dev/psaux was well created, should look like:
# ll /dev/psaux
crw-------    1 root     root      10,   1 Mar 15  2002 /dev/psaux

(if you build your own kernel check that its support is in the kernel)


 and that gpm is not running (would not disable X to start but well trouble
the behaviour of cursor).

Hth,
    Joel

PS: can you also mentioned which kernel are you using 

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Re: [parisc-linux] Re: Install GNOME on 712/80

[Jens Simmoleit]

Hi List, Hi James,

nope this is unfortunately not the solution to my problem :-(

But I maybe found something else. Instead of starting GDM I started the
gdmlogin and maybe it gave back a clue, look here.....

lisa:/dev/input# gdmlogin --version

Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by C library
Gnome gdmlogin 2.2.5.5
lisa:/dev/input#



Any idea?

Thanks for helping me,
Simmel




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "James Bottomley" <James.Bottomley@steeleye.com>
To: "Jens Simmoleit" <simmel@anymotion.de>
Cc: "PARISC list" <parisc-linux@lists.parisc-linux.org>;
<debian-hppa@lists.debian.org>
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 4:49 PM
Subject: Re: [parisc-linux] Re: Install GNOME on 712/80


> On Fri, 2004-02-06 at 10:35, Jens Simmoleit wrote:
> > But now something strange happens, I type in my user and the password at
the
> > gnome desktop login, the screen turns black and after a certain amount
of
> > time the box comes back with the Gnome login prompt (where I started
from)?
>
> Gnome is a known consumer of colour resources, and it's applications
> aren't very graceful when they run out (as they do with our 8 bit
> framebuffer), it could be that you are simply running out of them.
>
> You can use a true colour visual at this depth (the colours are pretty
> ratty, but at least you never run out) by adding
>
> Visual "TrueColor"
>
> To the SubSection "Display" part that covers you.
>
> James
>
>
>

Re: [parisc-linux] Re: Install GNOME on 712/80

[Jens Simmoleit]

Hi List, Hi James,

nope this is unfortunately not the solution to my problem :-(

But I maybe found something else. Instead of starting GDM I started the
gdmlogin and maybe it gave back a clue, look here.....

lisa:/dev/input# gdmlogin --version

Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by C library
Gnome gdmlogin 2.2.5.5
lisa:/dev/input#



Any idea?

Thanks for helping me,
Simmel




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "James Bottomley" <James.Bottomley@steeleye.com>
To: "Jens Simmoleit" <simmel@anymotion.de>
Cc: "PARISC list" <parisc-linux@lists.parisc-linux.org>;
<debian-hppa@lists.debian.org>
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 4:49 PM
Subject: Re: [parisc-linux] Re: Install GNOME on 712/80


> On Fri, 2004-02-06 at 10:35, Jens Simmoleit wrote:
> > But now something strange happens, I type in my user and the password at
the
> > gnome desktop login, the screen turns black and after a certain amount
of
> > time the box comes back with the Gnome login prompt (where I started
from)?
>
> Gnome is a known consumer of colour resources, and it's applications
> aren't very graceful when they run out (as they do with our 8 bit
> framebuffer), it could be that you are simply running out of them.
>
> You can use a true colour visual at this depth (the colours are pretty
> ratty, but at least you never run out) by adding
>
> Visual "TrueColor"
>
> To the SubSection "Display" part that covers you.
>
> James
>
>
>

[parisc-linux] Made it - Install GNOME on 712/80

[Jens Simmoleit]

Hi list,

I made it, there was the package gnome-session missing (lokks like I missed
that one, oops!)
Also I made a dpkg-reconfigure setlocale to C (was with POSIX??)
then I got into the profile and added export for locale and after that I
changed the .xinitrc to gnome-session
taaaadaaaaaa, works :-) at least I can login, superb....
BTW, sawfish gnome looks nice, is there another gnome you can recommend?
Also I'd be interested if it'S possible to better the performance of my gfx
system, anybody out there with a few tricks?

I'm so happy right now.......


Greets,
Simmel


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joel Soete" <soete.joel@tiscali.be>
To: "Jens Simmoleit" <simmel@anymotion.de>;
<parisc-linux@lists.parisc-linux.org>
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 5:12 PM
Subject: RE: [parisc-linux] Additions - Install GNOME on 712/80


> Hi Jens,
>
> >1. My mouse won't work too *argh*
>
> 2. that is why you couldn't login with your user (i presume not root) :)
>
> X absolutely need a mouse pointer :(
>
> iirc you should have this entry in your XF86config-4 file:
> Section "InputDevice"
>         Identifier      "Configured Mouse"
>         Driver          "mouse"
>         Option          "CorePointer"
>         Option          "Device"                "/dev/psaux"
>         Option          "Protocol"              "PS/2"
> EndSection
>
> Check that /dev/psaux was well created, should look like:
> # ll /dev/psaux
> crw-------    1 root     root      10,   1 Mar 15  2002 /dev/psaux
>
> (if you build your own kernel check that its support is in the kernel)
>
>
>  and that gpm is not running (would not disable X to start but well
trouble
> the behaviour of cursor).
>
> Hth,
>     Joel
>
> PS: can you also mentioned which kernel are you using
>
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