lilo

lilo

[Tom Beer]

Hi,

I just compiled a new kernel. Now I have
the vmlinux file in /usr/scr/linux-2.4.18/linux/arch/i386/boot/vmlinux
If I copy the file to boot and edit the /etc/lilo.conf
and run a lilo -t -v  it says file too big.
If I cp bzImage to /boot/ as vmlinux it issues 
vmlinux-2.4.18-initrd.img not found.
Could anyone explain to me how to
get the right files in the /boot directory and run lilo on it.
I read the Kernel howto, but either something is missing
or I don't understand it (I favor the last alternative :-)
and I don't want to make an error.

Thanks in advance Tom

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Re: lilo

[Steven Smith]

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> I just compiled a new kernel. Now I have
> the vmlinux file in /usr/scr/linux-2.4.18/linux/arch/i386/boot/vmlinux
I would ignore this, to be honest. bzImage is usually a better bet.

> If I cp bzImage to /boot/ as vmlinux it issues 
> vmlinux-2.4.18-initrd.img not found.
> Could anyone explain to me how to
> get the right files in the /boot directory and run lilo on it.
The only file you usually need in /boot is the bzImage, and that can
just be cp'd in:

cp arch/i386/boot/bzImage /boot/bzImage.2.4.18

(or use some sensible destination name). System.map is also occasionally
useful, but not very often.

You then need to add an entry to lilo.conf. If you're not doing
anything clever (like an initial ram disk), the entry usually goes:

image=/boot/bzImage.2.4.18
	label=test
	read-only

I've never needed to add anything more than that, once the rest of
lilo.conf is set up.

The big exception is initrd. This is a disk image loaded by LILO,
and is used by some recent distributions to store modules needed to
access the real root filesystem. For custom built kernels, you almost
never need this, as you can just compile the essential modules in.
You might want to check in the lilo.conf that you're not trying to
load a non-existent initrd, and, if you are, stop. Make sure you don't
change the old image's initrd, though, or it won't work.

Steven Smith,
sos22@cam.ac.uk.

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Re: lilo

[Tom Beer]

Two follow ups, if I may.

I can't locate the relevant initrd. 
Where can I find it, just to get everything
correct.
The second is under /usr/src
is, as normally, a symbolic link to
my old kernel. Should I change this to the
new one, if this is the primary, or is this
not relevant?

Thanks Tom

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Re: lilo

[Tom Beer]

I'm using Redhat 7.0 and there
should be a way to get it running.
It fits on a disk. I think that I
can't get the lilo process in my head 
(and I hope so). I compiled many things
as modules and the kernel 2542462 big.
But isn't there a way to install the bzImage?

Greets Tom




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Re: lilo

[Steven Smith]

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> It fits on a disk.
Have you tried running the kernel off of a floppy? That would at
least confirm it's working.

> I compiled many things as modules and the kernel 2542462 big.
That's a big kernel. Do you mean vmlinux (which could be that large)
or bzImage (which shouldn't be)?

> But isn't there a way to install the bzImage?
Usually, you go:

cp arch/i386/boot/bzImage /boot/bzImage.2.4.18

and add a section to lilo.conf:

image = /boot/bzImage.2.4.18
	label = some_label
	read-only

before rerunning lilo:

/sbin/lilo -v

If that doesn't work, then please post the output and the contents of
your lilo.conf to the list.

Steven Smith,
sos22@cam.ac.uk.

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Re: lilo

[Jos Lemmerling]

On Sat, 27 Apr 2002, Tom Beer wrote:

> I'm using Redhat 7.0 and there
> should be a way to get it running.
> It fits on a disk. I think that I
> can't get the lilo process in my head 
> (and I hope so). I compiled many things
> as modules and the kernel 2542462 big.

just to make sure: you did use "make bzImage" while compiling? _Normally_ 
a kernel-image isn't much bigger than 1 MB.

> But isn't there a way to install the bzImage?

if it's really called bzImage, it should be compressed (at least on my
system...) and there shouldn't have to be a problem with his size.


HTH

--
Jos Lemmerling on Debian GNU/Linux			jos(@)lemmerling(.net)

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Re: lilo

[Ray Olszewski]

Tom -- Your description of your problem is a bit too elliptic to get good
answers. (I think the range of responses from others who have posted
illustrates how unclear your questions are ... people are trying hard to
guess your meaning.)

At 06:56 PM 4/27/02 +0200, Tom Beer wrote:
>I'm using Redhat 7.0 and there
>should be a way to get it running.

There certainly should. Many ways, usually.

>It fits on a disk. 

What is "it" and what do you mean by "a disk" (a floppy, a hard disk
partition, or a CD)? 

>I think that I
>can't get the lilo process in my head 
>(and I hope so). 

Huh?

>I compiled many things
>as modules and the kernel 2542462 big.

What do you mean by "the" kernel? That's a chubby kernel even *after* it is
uncompressed to run. More to the point ... how large is the actual bzImage
file you created?

>But isn't there a way to install the bzImage?

Install it on what?

On a floppy? Sure. You can just dd it to the floppy for a crude boot.

On a hard disk partition? Well, not really; here you do require a bootloader
like LILO or GRUB. The usual way to do it is to cp the bzImage file to a
suitable place (/boot is the custom), edit /etc/lilo.conf so it identifies
the new image as the one to boot from, and run lilo.

Some kernel Makefiles have a "make install" option that puts the bzImage or
zImage where it needs to be; I don't know if whatever kernel RH 7.0 used did
this.


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Lilo

[Guilherme Silva Vilela]

I'm trying to use Lilo with some tiny version of linux (trinux), but when I try to run lilo, I get the message: open /boot/boot.b: No such file or directory

Somebody knows how I can create this file?

Thanks,

Vilela.

Re: Lilo

[Scott Taylor]

At 02:08 PM 13/06/2002, Guilherme Silva Vilela wrote:
>I'm trying to use Lilo with some tiny version of linux (trinux), but when 
>I try to run lilo, I get the message: open /boot/boot.b: No such file or 
>directory
>
>Somebody knows how I can create this file?

Possibly all you need is to set up /etc/lilo.conf properly.

forward a copy of /etc/lilo.conf and tell us where your vmlinuz* and or 
zImage* files are:
$ su -
    ...
# cd /
# find / -name vmlinuz*
  /boot/vmlinuz
...
Ctrl+C no need to search the whole world here

do the same for zImage

Re: Lilo

[Glynn Clements]

Guilherme Silva Vilela wrote:

> I'm trying to use Lilo with some tiny version of linux (trinux), but
> when I try to run lilo, I get the message: open /boot/boot.b: No such
> file or directory
> 
> Somebody knows how I can create this file?

It's part of lilo. If you don't have it, you need to reinstall lilo. 
If you have it, but it's in a location other than /boot, you need to
specify the pathname via an "install=..." option in lilo.conf.

-- 
Glynn Clements <glynn.clements@virgin.net>

Re: Lilo

[Guilherme Silva Vilela]

> I'm trying to use Lilo with some tiny version of linux (trinux), but when I try to run lilo, I get the message: open /boot/boot.b: No such file or directory
> 
> Somebody knows how I can create this file?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Vilela.
> -
I will try to explain better.
I have a trinux (all system stay in memory), but my kernel and some packages stay in a flash ide with 16MB. Today I have a freedos installed in the flash ide, that uses loadlin to call trinux. 
What I want is not use freedos, and use lilo to call trinux and not loadlin.

Thanks,

Vilela.

Re: Lilo

[Scott Taylor]

At 02:47 PM 13/06/2002, Guilherme Silva Vilela wrote:

>I have a trinux (all system stay in memory), but my kernel and some 
>packages stay in a flash ide with 16MB. Today I have a freedos installed 
>in the flash ide, that uses loadlin to call trinux.
>What I want is not use freedos, and use lilo to call trinux and not loadlin.

It's still LiLo, same rules still apply, you need the proper files on your 
install CD or you can't use it.