PATCH-O-MATIC (installation issue)

PATCH-O-MATIC (installation issue)

[Joshua C. Clark]

I am new to the forum so hopefully I am doing this right, I am trying to
install PATCH-O-MATIC on either RedHat or CentOS but I dont know where the
iptables source installation is, sorry if this is posted elsewhere..

RE: PATCH-O-MATIC (installation issue)

[Rob Sterenborg]

> I am new to the forum so hopefully I am doing this right, I
> am trying to
> install PATCH-O-MATIC on either RedHat or CentOS but I dont
> know where the
> iptables source installation is, sorry if this is posted elsewhere..

If you installed the kernel source (it's a package), you probably find
it in /usr/src


Gr,
Rob

Re: PATCH-O-MATIC (installation issue)

[Joshua C. Clark]

I can find the kernerl source but I cannot seem to find the iptables source,
and when I point it to the same location as my linux kernel it fails saying
it doesnt know the IPTABLES source, does this make sense, and thank you for
following up!
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rob Sterenborg" <rob@sterenborg.info>
To: <netfilter@lists.netfilter.org>
Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 1:15 PM
Subject: RE: PATCH-O-MATIC (installation issue)


> > I am new to the forum so hopefully I am doing this right, I
> > am trying to
> > install PATCH-O-MATIC on either RedHat or CentOS but I dont
> > know where the
> > iptables source installation is, sorry if this is posted elsewhere..
>
> If you installed the kernel source (it's a package), you probably find
> it in /usr/src
>
>
> Gr,
> Rob
>
>
>

RE: PATCH-O-MATIC (installation issue)

[Pablo Sanchez]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: netfilter-bounces@lists.netfilter.org
> [mailto:netfilter-bounces@lists.netfilter.org]On Behalf Of Joshua C.
> Clark
> Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 1:19 PM
> To: netfilter@lists.netfilter.org
> Subject: Re: PATCH-O-MATIC (installation issue)
> 
> 
> I can find the kernerl source but I cannot seem to find the 
> iptables source,
> and when I point it to the same location as my linux kernel it 
> fails saying
> it doesnt know the IPTABLES source, does this make sense, and 
> thank you for
> following up!

Download the iptables source from:

	http://www.netfilter.org

Specifically below (or previous releases):

	http://www.netfilter.org/projects/iptables/downloads.html#iptables-1.3.5

Cheers,
-pablo

RE: PATCH-O-MATIC (installation issue)

[Rob Sterenborg]

> I can find the kernerl source but I cannot seem to find the iptables
> source, and when I point it to the same location as my linux kernel
> it fails saying it doesnt know the IPTABLES source, does this make
> sense, and thank you for following up!

Ah, yes you did write that.. Sorry about that.
All sources are separate packages. I don't know if you have installed
the iptables source.
However, I'd recommend to download the source of both iptables and POM
snapshots from the ftp site of the Netfilter project as you can download
more up-to-date sources.


Gr,
Rob


> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rob Sterenborg" <rob@sterenborg.info>
> To: <netfilter@lists.netfilter.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 1:15 PM
> Subject: RE: PATCH-O-MATIC (installation issue)
> 
> 
>>> I am new to the forum so hopefully I am doing this right, I am
>>> trying to install PATCH-O-MATIC on either RedHat or CentOS but I
>>> dont know where the iptables source installation is, sorry if this
>>> is posted elsewhere.. 
>> 
>> If you installed the kernel source (it's a package), you probably
>> find it in /usr/src 
>> 
>> 
>> Gr,
>> Rob



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Re: PATCH-O-MATIC (installation issue)

[Joshua C. Clark]

I am so stupid, I didnt realize that by simply downloading the package that
was the IPTABLES source directory, however when I run the runme it asks if i
want to patch but when I say yes to any of them it tells me it is missing
files.. Any ideas?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rob Sterenborg" <rob@sterenborg.info>
To: <netfilter@lists.netfilter.org>
Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 1:25 PM
Subject: RE: PATCH-O-MATIC (installation issue)


> > I can find the kernerl source but I cannot seem to find the iptables
> > source, and when I point it to the same location as my linux kernel
> > it fails saying it doesnt know the IPTABLES source, does this make
> > sense, and thank you for following up!
>
> Ah, yes you did write that.. Sorry about that.
> All sources are separate packages. I don't know if you have installed
> the iptables source.
> However, I'd recommend to download the source of both iptables and POM
> snapshots from the ftp site of the Netfilter project as you can download
> more up-to-date sources.
>
>
> Gr,
> Rob
>
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Rob Sterenborg" <rob@sterenborg.info>
> > To: <netfilter@lists.netfilter.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 1:15 PM
> > Subject: RE: PATCH-O-MATIC (installation issue)
> >
> >
> >>> I am new to the forum so hopefully I am doing this right, I am
> >>> trying to install PATCH-O-MATIC on either RedHat or CentOS but I
> >>> dont know where the iptables source installation is, sorry if this
> >>> is posted elsewhere..
> >>
> >> If you installed the kernel source (it's a package), you probably
> >> find it in /usr/src
> >>
> >>
> >> Gr,
> >> Rob
>
>
>
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> distribution or copying of this email is not
> authorised (either explicitly or implicitly) and constitutes an
> irritating social faux pas. Unless the word absquatulation has been
> used in its correct context somewhere other than in this warning, it
> does not have any legal or grammatical use and may be ignored. No
> animals were harmed in the transmission of this email, although the
> yorkshire terrier next door is living on borrowed time, let me tell
> you. Those of you with an overwhelming fear of the unknown will be
> gratified to learn that there is no hidden message revealed by reading
> this warning backwards, so just ignore that Alert Notice from
> Microsoft: However, by pouring a complete circle of salt around
> yourself and your computer you can ensure that no harm befalls you and
> your pets. If you have received this email in error, please add some
> nutmeg and egg whites and place it in a warm oven for 40 minutes. Whisk
> briefly and let it stand for 2 hours before icing.
>
>
>

RE: PATCH-O-MATIC (installation issue)

[Rob Sterenborg]

> I am so stupid, I didnt realize that by simply downloading the
> package that was the IPTABLES source directory, however when I run
> the runme it asks if i want to patch but when I say yes to any of
> them it tells me it is missing files.. Any ideas?

Yes, well, where did you untar the iptables source ? You have to tell
POM where it is, just like it has to know where the kernel-source is.
Try running POM like this :

KERNEL_DIR=/path/to/kernel-src IPTABLES_DIR=/path/to/iptables-src \
  ./runme [base|extra]

You have to fill in the real paths, I can't do that for you.


Gr,
Rob


> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rob Sterenborg" <rob@sterenborg.info>
> To: <netfilter@lists.netfilter.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 1:25 PM
> Subject: RE: PATCH-O-MATIC (installation issue)
> 
> 
>>> I can find the kernerl source but I cannot seem to find the iptables
>>> source, and when I point it to the same location as my linux kernel
>>> it fails saying it doesnt know the IPTABLES source, does this make
>>> sense, and thank you for following up!
>> 
>> Ah, yes you did write that.. Sorry about that.
>> All sources are separate packages. I don't know if you have
>> installed the iptables source. However, I'd recommend to download
>> the source of both iptables and POM snapshots from the ftp site of
>> the Netfilter project as you can download more up-to-date sources. 

Re: PATCH-O-MATIC (installation issue)

[Joshua C. Clark]

I can get past that it just fails whenever I try to click 'y' to install the
atches comlaining about missing files, really I only want to be able to use
time features with IPTABLES, but I dont see that in the POM, what am I doing
wrong, thanks in advance!!!


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rob Sterenborg" <rob@sterenborg.info>
To: <netfilter@lists.netfilter.org>
Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 1:43 PM
Subject: RE: PATCH-O-MATIC (installation issue)


> > I am so stupid, I didnt realize that by simply downloading the
> > package that was the IPTABLES source directory, however when I run
> > the runme it asks if i want to patch but when I say yes to any of
> > them it tells me it is missing files.. Any ideas?
>
> Yes, well, where did you untar the iptables source ? You have to tell
> POM where it is, just like it has to know where the kernel-source is.
> Try running POM like this :
>
> KERNEL_DIR=/path/to/kernel-src IPTABLES_DIR=/path/to/iptables-src \
>   ./runme [base|extra]
>
> You have to fill in the real paths, I can't do that for you.
>
>
> Gr,
> Rob
>
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Rob Sterenborg" <rob@sterenborg.info>
> > To: <netfilter@lists.netfilter.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 1:25 PM
> > Subject: RE: PATCH-O-MATIC (installation issue)
> >
> >
> >>> I can find the kernerl source but I cannot seem to find the iptables
> >>> source, and when I point it to the same location as my linux kernel
> >>> it fails saying it doesnt know the IPTABLES source, does this make
> >>> sense, and thank you for following up!
> >>
> >> Ah, yes you did write that.. Sorry about that.
> >> All sources are separate packages. I don't know if you have
> >> installed the iptables source. However, I'd recommend to download
> >> the source of both iptables and POM snapshots from the ftp site of
> >> the Netfilter project as you can download more up-to-date sources.
>
>
>

RE: PATCH-O-MATIC (installation issue)

[Rob Sterenborg]

> I can get past that it just fails whenever I try to click 'y' to
> install the atches comlaining about missing files, really I only want
> to be able to use time features with IPTABLES, but I dont see that in
> the POM, what am I doing wrong, thanks in advance!!!

According to the Netfilter website, the time patch is in the base part
of POM so you can start POM with either "base" or "extra".
http://www.netfilter.org/projects/patch-o-matic/pom-base.html#pom-base-t
ime

If that doesn't work...
I'm not familiar with Redhat kernels, but I do know that some distro's
use their own patched kernels (Redhat does) which can cause troubles if
you try to apply patches to them. Maybe POM doesn't "like" the Redhat
kernel.
Maybe it works when you download and patch a vanilla kernel source from
kernel.org.


Gr,
Rob

Re: PATCH-O-MATIC (installation issue)

[Joshua C. Clark]

maybe this is a dumb question maybe it isnt, but can I download the vanilla
kernel and run it on my redhat box?
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rob Sterenborg" <rob@sterenborg.info>
To: <netfilter@lists.netfilter.org>
Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 1:59 PM
Subject: RE: PATCH-O-MATIC (installation issue)


> > I can get past that it just fails whenever I try to click 'y' to
> > install the atches comlaining about missing files, really I only want
> > to be able to use time features with IPTABLES, but I dont see that in
> > the POM, what am I doing wrong, thanks in advance!!!
>
> According to the Netfilter website, the time patch is in the base part
> of POM so you can start POM with either "base" or "extra".
> http://www.netfilter.org/projects/patch-o-matic/pom-base.html#pom-base-t
> ime
>
> If that doesn't work...
> I'm not familiar with Redhat kernels, but I do know that some distro's
> use their own patched kernels (Redhat does) which can cause troubles if
> you try to apply patches to them. Maybe POM doesn't "like" the Redhat
> kernel.
> Maybe it works when you download and patch a vanilla kernel source from
> kernel.org.
>
>
> Gr,
> Rob
>
>
>

RE: PATCH-O-MATIC (installation issue)

[Pablo Sanchez]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: netfilter-bounces@lists.netfilter.org
> [mailto:netfilter-bounces@lists.netfilter.org]On Behalf Of Joshua C.
> Clark
> Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 2:47 PM
> To: netfilter@lists.netfilter.org
> Subject: Re: PATCH-O-MATIC (installation issue)
> 
> 
> maybe this is a dumb question maybe it isnt, but can I download 
> the vanilla
> kernel and run it on my redhat box?

More than likely you will be able to.  FWIW, on my Suse 10.x box, I downloaded the vanilla kernel, compiled it and am running with it.  From there, I was able to compile iptables and build from there.

Before I did the above, I had a whack of problems.

Cheers,
-pablo

Re: PATCH-O-MATIC (installation issue)

[Joshua C. Clark]

I guess I am confused, when you say recompile do you mean the os kernel or
just iptables?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Pablo Sanchez" <pablo@blueoakdb.com>
To: <netfilter@lists.netfilter.org>
Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 2:51 PM
Subject: RE: PATCH-O-MATIC (installation issue)




> -----Original Message-----
> From: netfilter-bounces@lists.netfilter.org
> [mailto:netfilter-bounces@lists.netfilter.org]On Behalf Of Joshua C.
> Clark
> Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 2:47 PM
> To: netfilter@lists.netfilter.org
> Subject: Re: PATCH-O-MATIC (installation issue)
>
>
> maybe this is a dumb question maybe it isnt, but can I download
> the vanilla
> kernel and run it on my redhat box?

More than likely you will be able to.  FWIW, on my Suse 10.x box, I
downloaded the vanilla kernel, compiled it and am running with it.  From
there, I was able to compile iptables and build from there.

Before I did the above, I had a whack of problems.

Cheers,
-pablo

RE: PATCH-O-MATIC (installation issue)

[Pablo Sanchez]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: netfilter-bounces@lists.netfilter.org
> [mailto:netfilter-bounces@lists.netfilter.org]On Behalf Of Joshua C.
> Clark
> Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 2:55 PM
> To: netfilter@lists.netfilter.org
> Subject: Re: PATCH-O-MATIC (installation issue)
> 
> 
> I guess I am confused, when you say recompile do you mean the os kernel or
> just iptables?

[ Also, please stop top-posting, respond at the bottom if you'd like my response. ]

Okay, I believe I see the problem.  We're not communicating properly.

When you say can I 'download the vanilla kernel', what you _meant_ by that is (even though you didn't say it ... and possibly didn't know it!  <g>):

	1) You download the kernel _source_ from kernel.org
	2) You config the kernel on your box
	3) You compile it on your box
	4) You reboot your machine with the new kernel

What I was trying to say is I had to do the above before I could use POM, much less before I could compile IPTABLE's.

I hope that helps.
-pablo