browser errors

browser errors

[Korosi Akos]

Hi!

I posted a mail not very long ago about my xfs problem.
Unfortunately nobody answered about this problem.

In the meantime I tried to search for a solution, but with no success.

I try to write down here everything that I know about this porblem:

The problem is that when I connect to the ISP, and try to browse the net, my X 
freezes, and my keyboard is locked (NumLock, ScrollLock and CapsLock don't 
changes the led), but I think that machine is working, just the keyboard is 
locked. I think this because HDD light is working (lighting for some time).
Unfortunately this machine is not in network, and here is no network now, so 
I'm not sure in this. (Can I somehow check this out?)
After thefreeze I don't now other way than reset the machine.

In the first time I figured out that my xfs dies, and that couses the freeze.
Unfortunately I couldn't generate any error msg-s (nothing in 
/var/log/messages).
Then I removed xfs usage from XF86Config-4, and linked in statically the 
fonts (I took the paths from the xfs config file), and also removed all fonts 
that startx told me that it could not init that font path element.
Then I tried again web browsing.
Unfortunately freezing is continueing.
Sometimes mouse continues to work (to move on screen), but I can do nothing 
with it.
I tried all web browsers I have (Mozilla, Netscape, Opera, Konqueror).
Every time freeze is happening.

I also thought that the freeze is becouse I use kppp from gnome to connect to 
the ISP, so I go into KDE, and start there kppp and Konqueror, but it froze 
too...
(mouse was moveing, but nothing can do with it, keyboard was locked...)

Below is my XF86Config-4 file,
two hash-marks (##) mean that startx told me that it could not init that font 
path element, and three hash-marks (###) mean that in those directorys are 
empty.

I use RedHat 7.3, I didn't upgrade nothing in it.

Please tell me what can I do, or how can I search for problems,
and what informations I should tell you.

The biggest problem is that my keyboard locks, and I don't now any 
possabilities other than reset, for bringing machine back to life.
And so any information that I could get is lost.
In /var/log/messages I don't find any information.
The only thing that could be usefull is:
Sometimes modprobe tells that it can't locate some char modules, like:

modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module char-major-22

Please tell me, what can I do...

Thanks in advance,
Akos


My XF86Config-4 file:
------------------------------------------------------
# XFree86 4.2.0 configuration generated by Xconfigurator 4.10.7

Section "ServerLayout"
	Identifier "XFree86 Configured"
	Screen      0  "Screen0" 0 0
	InputDevice    "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
	InputDevice    "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection

# Red Hat Linux 6.0 and later use the xfs font server for improved
# interactive performance

Section "Files"
#	FontPath "unix/:7100"

	FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc:unscaled"
	FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi:unscaled"
	FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi:unscaled"
	FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc"
##	FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1"
##	FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo"
##	FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic"
###	FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID"
###	FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/local"
###	FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/latin2/Type1"
##	FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/default/TrueType"
##	FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/default/Type1"
##	FontPath "/usr/share/AbiSuite/fonts"
##	FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/ja/TrueType"
	FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/ISO8859-2/misc:unscaled"
	FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/ISO8859-2/75dpi:unscaled"
	FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/ISO8859-2/100dpi:unscaled"
	FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/ISO8859-2/misc"
##	FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/ISO8859-2/Type1"
	FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/ISO8859-2/75dpi"
	FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/ISO8859-2/100dpi"
EndSection

# Module loading section

Section "Module"
	Load  "dbe"		# Double-buffering
	Load  "GLcore"		# OpenGL support
	Load  "dri"		# Direct rendering infrastructure
	Load  "glx"		# OpenGL X protocol interface
	Load  "extmod"		# Misc. required extensions
	Load  "v4l"		# Video4Linux
	# Load  "record"	# X event recorder
	# You only need the following two modules if you do not use xfs.
	# Load  "freetype"	 # TrueType font handler
	# Load  "type1"		# Adobe Type 1 font handler
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
	Identifier  "Keyboard0"
	Driver      "keyboard"
	Option      "XkbLayout"	"gb"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
	Identifier	"Mouse0"
	# Modified by mouseconfig
	Driver		"mouse"
	Option		"Device"		"/dev/mouse"
	Option		"Protocol"		"Microsoft"
	Option		"Emulate3Buttons"	"yes"
	Option		"ZAxisMapping"		"4 5"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
	Identifier "S/M 755DF"
	VendorName "Unknown"
	ModelName  "Unknown"
	HorizSync 30 - 85
	VertRefresh 50 - 160
	Modeline "1152x864"  121.50  1152 1184 1312 1556  864 865 868 911 +hsync 
-vsync
	Option "dpms"
EndSection

Section "Device"
	Identifier "ATI|Radeon 7500 QW"
	Driver "radeon"
	BoardName "Unknown"
# Some 7500 boards aparently need this option enabled to work - bug (#62760)
# Option "CrtScreen"
EndSection

Section "Device"
	Identifier "Linux Frame Buffer"
	Driver "fbdev"
	BoardName "Unknown"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
	Identifier "Screen0"
	Device "ATI|Radeon 7500 QW"
	Monitor "S/M 755DF"
	DefaultDepth 16
	Subsection "Display"
		Depth 16
		Modes "1152x864" "1024x768"
	EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "DRI"
	Mode 0666
EndSection
-------------------------------------------------------------



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Re: browser errors

[Ray Olszewski]

 From your report, it is difficult to know what is really happening. I 
would **guess**, though, that fonts are not your real problem.

What are the basics of your hardware? Especially, how much RAM does your 
system have, and how big is your swap partition? Please remember that I am 
only guessing here, but I noted your comment that "HDD light is working 
(lighting for some time)". This makes me wonder if the system is trying to 
use the swap partition and running into trouble (or perhaps just getting 
VERY slow -- how long do you wait for the system to recover before 
rebooting?). Browsers tend to be memory hogs, so you might see this 
behavior only when running one.

If that is not it ... what are the last few things the logs contain prior 
to a reboot out of this failure?

At 08:00 PM 8/3/02 +0200, Korosi Akos wrote:
>Hi!
>
>I posted a mail not very long ago about my xfs problem.
>Unfortunately nobody answered about this problem.
>
>In the meantime I tried to search for a solution, but with no success.
>
>I try to write down here everything that I know about this porblem:
[details deleted]


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Re: browser errors

[Peter]

In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sat, 03 Aug 2002 20:00:05 +0200."
             <200208031427.17742.korosi@eunet.yu> 

Most likely this is a problem of RH7.3 with some video cards. I had the same 
and had to reinstall RH7.1 to get on working. 

Also see threads Re: mVidial


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Re: browser errors

[Korosi Akos]

Hi Ray and Peter!

>  From your report, it is difficult to know what is really happening. I
> would **guess**, though, that fonts are not your real problem.

After I linked them statically, and the problem continued to appear, I thought 
about this too...

> What are the basics of your hardware? Especially, how much RAM does your
> system have, and how big is your swap partition? 

I have an Athlon XP 1700+ processor, with 256 MB DDR RAM, and 
500 MB swap partition.
Abit KR7A motherboard. Maxtor 40 GB HDD.
Pioneer DVDrom.
Should I write anything else? If yes, what?

And here to Peter:
> Most likely this is a problem of RH7.3 with some video cards. I had the
> same and had to reinstall RH7.1 to get on working.

I have an ATI Radeon 7500. I bought it becouse I heard the problems
with Nvidia, and I heard ATI is a good choise for Linux.
Could the problem couse an ATI card?

> Please remember that I am
> only guessing here, but I noted your comment that "HDD light is working
> (lighting for some time)". This makes me wonder if the system is trying to
> use the swap partition and running into trouble (or perhaps just getting
> VERY slow -- how long do you wait for the system to recover before
> rebooting?). Browsers tend to be memory hogs, so you might see this
> behavior only when running one.

I put on CPU/MEM usage applet, and tried again.
You might be right about X is not freezing, just being slow (I didn't wait for
so many time before restart, jus about 5 minutes).
The next happen.
I start a browser (now everithing is ok), than log in to ISP (now ok too), 
than start to browse the net, and then CPU usage is going mad (full).
And everithing is slow (but not freezed now, I tried now just with opera).
Then I started 'top' command, and saw that opera is using the most the cpu.
And this went to 2-3 minutes, than I stopped the connection, but can not close
opera. (It is still working, and can not be closed, now for more than 10 
minutes, and CPU usage is full (looking at applet), and now I had to kill it 
with -9 option).
What can I do now?

> If that is not it ... what are the last few things the logs contain prior
> to a reboot out of this failure?

I tried again, to generate log messages.
Now the next happened:
Start Opera, log to ISP, start browsing. For 1-2 minutes everything is ok.
Then got the CPU usage to max. I wait for a while (3 minutes), the CPU usage 
is maximal, opera is not responding to mouse click, if I drag a window over 
opera, the window is makink a trail over opera. If I change to other 
workspace and back, opera is white (this happened in the previous case too).
The connection speed graph gets zigzag (little zigzag, in one second 1.5 kb 
than 0, and again...)
Then I disconnected from ISP, and than X aborted!
The message of X (I start it from text mode, so I see messages after abort):

Fatal server error:
Caught signal 11. Server aborting

(then the text that if I want to send a bug report I have to include all
 XFree log messages...)

I could send the full XFree log, but is is around 50 kB...

And here is the /var/log/messages with messages generated at the that time:
(I put X-es to ip addresses, because I don't know if it is a security problem 
if I tell you. Ray wrote previously that I should cut off passwords, and I 
don't know if I should do the same with ip-s...)
--------------------------------------
Aug  4 17:38:30 localhost kernel: hsf_break_ctl: modem does not presently 
support sending/receiving BREAK
Aug  4 17:39:04 localhost modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module ppp0
Aug  4 17:39:04 localhost modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module ppp0
Aug  4 17:39:04 localhost pppd[11399]: pppd 2.4.1 started by root, uid 0
Aug  4 17:39:04 localhost pppd[11399]: Using interface ppp0
Aug  4 17:39:04 localhost pppd[11399]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/ttyHSF0
Aug  4 17:39:04 localhost /etc/hotplug/net.agent: assuming ppp0 is already up
Aug  4 17:39:10 localhost pppd[11399]: Remote message: Login Succeeded
Aug  4 17:39:10 localhost modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module 
ppp-compress-21
Aug  4 17:39:10 localhost modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module 
ppp-compress-21
Aug  4 17:39:11 localhost pppd[11399]: local  IP address XXX.XXX.X.XXX
Aug  4 17:39:11 localhost pppd[11399]: remote IP address XXX.XXX.XXX.XX
Aug  4 17:43:20 localhost pppd[11399]: Terminating on signal 15.
Aug  4 17:43:26 localhost pppd[11399]: Connection terminated.
Aug  4 17:43:26 localhost pppd[11399]: Connect time 4.3 minutes.
Aug  4 17:43:26 localhost pppd[11399]: Sent 78191 bytes, received 363790 
bytes.
Aug  4 17:43:26 localhost pppd[11399]: Exit.
Aug  4 17:43:26 localhost /etc/hotplug/net.agent: NET unregister event not 
supported
Aug  4 17:43:44 localhost gnome-name-server[1229]: input condition is: 0x11, 
exiting
Aug  4 17:43:46 localhost su(pam_unix)[11187]: session closed for user root
Aug  4 17:44:50 localhost gconfd (korosi-1232): GConf server is not in use, 
shutting down.
Aug  4 17:44:50 localhost gconfd (korosi-1232): Exiting
--------------------------------------------------
Thet's all, I hope this could help you, to figure out the problem.


Hope the best,
Akos



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Re: browser errors

[Riley Williams]

Hi Korosi.

I can't help with your general problem, but there is one point in here
that I can clarify...

> And here is the /var/log/messages with messages generated at the
> that time: (I put X-es to ip addresses, because I don't know if it
> is a security problem if I tell you. Ray wrote previously that I
> should cut off passwords, and I don't know if I should do the same
> with ip-s...)

To avoid security problems whilst guaranteeing to provide all of the
information needed to debug the problem, simply replace each specific IP
address with a specific IP address from one of the "reserved ranges".
There can be no security problems with those IP addresses since they are
not routable outside of your own network.

The important detail is that each IP address must be replaced with the
same one each time, and the results must indicate whether the originals
were on the same or different subnets. Providing you can guarantee that,
the problem is almost always equally diagnosable with substituted IP
addresses.

Often, the simplest way is just to replace the first number in each quad
with 10 as the entire 10.* range is reserved in this way.

Best wishes from Riley.

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Re: browser errors

[Ray Olszewski]

Riley -- I would like to disagree with your recommendation here, 
particularly with the general form in which you present it ("simply replace 
each specific IP address with a specific IP address from one of the 
"reserved ranges"").

Specifically, I believe that your statement that the approach you recommend 
results in "guaranteeing to provide all of the information needed to debug 
the problem" is incorrect, as is your conclusion that "the problem is 
almost always equally diagnosable with substituted IP addresses".

Knowing the actual IP addresses involved is not likely to be relevant in 
Korosi's *specific* case, but there are many cases when it is vital to know 
the actual addresses involved (or at least important properties of them). A 
lot of the troubleshooting I do, here and elsewhere, involves connectivity 
(address acquisition, routing, firewalling), and in these cases, you 
usually want to know

         if the host with the problem is using "real" or private-range IP 
addresses (*especially* if
                 the ISP is using private-range addreses, since a lot of 
firewalling software blocks
                 them by default)
         if the local network (especially the netmask) makes sense; I often 
see routing problems caused
                 by specifying a netmask that puts the default gateway 
outside the external network
         any number of things about the routing table

Another example: often, MAC-address authentication failures with 
cable-modem ISPs are indicated by the symptom of the host being assigned a 
10.b.c.d address instead of a "real" IP address. Your advice conceals this 
symptom.

My core answer to this sort of question always is: As a general 
proposition, beginners do not know enough to decide what to include and 
what to leave out; they need to post the complete output of commands, not 
edited output. Only passwords (and perhaps other personal information, 
though I can't offhand think of a diagnostic that provides anything secret 
except for passwords) are secret enough to be an exception to this.

Korosi -- I'm afraid that I too am stumped by your symptoms. As you 
describe them this time around, they sound like a bug in Opera, an 
application I do not use. Or perhaps Opera has a problem with some specific 
URL; you don't mention if the problem was always associated witht he same 
URL , or always with a Javascript page, or something similar.

I'm sorry that I cannot offer any better suggestions than those, admittedly 
trivial, ones.

At 08:44 PM 8/4/02 +0100, Riley Williams wrote:
>Hi Korosi.
>
>I can't help with your general problem, but there is one point in here
>that I can clarify...
>
> > And here is the /var/log/messages with messages generated at the
> > that time: (I put X-es to ip addresses, because I don't know if it
> > is a security problem if I tell you. Ray wrote previously that I
> > should cut off passwords, and I don't know if I should do the same
> > with ip-s...)
>
>To avoid security problems whilst guaranteeing to provide all of the
>information needed to debug the problem, simply replace each specific IP
>address with a specific IP address from one of the "reserved ranges".
>There can be no security problems with those IP addresses since they are
>not routable outside of your own network.
>
>The important detail is that each IP address must be replaced with the
>same one each time, and the results must indicate whether the originals
>were on the same or different subnets. Providing you can guarantee that,
>the problem is almost always equally diagnosable with substituted IP
>addresses.
>
>Often, the simplest way is just to replace the first number in each quad
>with 10 as the entire 10.* range is reserved in this way.



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Re: browser errors

[Bryan Whitehead]

Korosi Akos wrote:
[snip]

You might want to run memtest to make sure you don't have a memory 
problem..... (just to rule out a mem/hardware problem)

>>Please remember that I am
>>only guessing here, but I noted your comment that "HDD light is working
>>(lighting for some time)". This makes me wonder if the system is trying to
>>use the swap partition and running into trouble (or perhaps just getting
>>VERY slow -- how long do you wait for the system to recover before
>>rebooting?). Browsers tend to be memory hogs, so you might see this
>>behavior only when running one.
> 
> 
> I put on CPU/MEM usage applet, and tried again.
> You might be right about X is not freezing, just being slow (I didn't wait for
> so many time before restart, jus about 5 minutes).
> The next happen.
> I start a browser (now everithing is ok), than log in to ISP (now ok too), 
> than start to browse the net, and then CPU usage is going mad (full).
> And everithing is slow (but not freezed now, I tried now just with opera).
> Then I started 'top' command, and saw that opera is using the most the cpu.
> And this went to 2-3 minutes, than I stopped the connection, but can not close
> opera. (It is still working, and can not be closed, now for more than 10 
> minutes, and CPU usage is full (looking at applet), and now I had to kill it 
> with -9 option).
> What can I do now?

Check you java settings, Java can do this in many different browsers. 
Kaffe (a java vm shipped with most distros) is a peice of junk, and 
might be the only java available in your machine.

Also, try using a different browser like plain netscape 4.xx or mozilla.


> 
>>If that is not it ... what are the last few things the logs contain prior
>>to a reboot out of this failure?
> 
> 
> I tried again, to generate log messages.
> Now the next happened:
> Start Opera, log to ISP, start browsing. For 1-2 minutes everything is ok.
> Then got the CPU usage to max. I wait for a while (3 minutes), the CPU usage 
> is maximal, opera is not responding to mouse click, if I drag a window over 
> opera, the window is makink a trail over opera. If I change to other 
> workspace and back, opera is white (this happened in the previous case too).
> The connection speed graph gets zigzag (little zigzag, in one second 1.5 kb 
> than 0, and again...)
> Then I disconnected from ISP, and than X aborted!
> The message of X (I start it from text mode, so I see messages after abort):
> 
> Fatal server error:
> Caught signal 11. Server aborting

This is why I ask you to check your memory settings and test the memory. 
Are you overclocking?

> (then the text that if I want to send a bug report I have to include all
>  XFree log messages...)
> 
> I could send the full XFree log, but is is around 50 kB...
> 
> And here is the /var/log/messages with messages generated at the that time:
> (I put X-es to ip addresses, because I don't know if it is a security problem 
> if I tell you. Ray wrote previously that I should cut off passwords, and I 
> don't know if I should do the same with ip-s...)
> --------------------------------------
> Aug  4 17:38:30 localhost kernel: hsf_break_ctl: modem does not presently 
> support sending/receiving BREAK
> Aug  4 17:39:04 localhost modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module ppp0
> Aug  4 17:39:04 localhost modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module ppp0

This means ppp is built into kernel (otherwise you'd not be able to even 
connect to your ISP at all)

> Aug  4 17:39:04 localhost pppd[11399]: pppd 2.4.1 started by root, uid 0
> Aug  4 17:39:04 localhost pppd[11399]: Using interface ppp0
> Aug  4 17:39:04 localhost pppd[11399]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/ttyHSF0
> Aug  4 17:39:04 localhost /etc/hotplug/net.agent: assuming ppp0 is already up
> Aug  4 17:39:10 localhost pppd[11399]: Remote message: Login Succeeded
> Aug  4 17:39:10 localhost modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module 
> ppp-compress-21
> Aug  4 17:39:10 localhost modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module 
> ppp-compress-21

This might be a problem, you might not have the ppp_deflate module, or 
it's not built into the kernel. If this is true you might end up 
dropping ppp packets... But then again, we might get more error's from 
the pppd if ppp_deflate was missing.


> Aug  4 17:39:11 localhost pppd[11399]: local  IP address XXX.XXX.X.XXX
> Aug  4 17:39:11 localhost pppd[11399]: remote IP address XXX.XXX.XXX.XX
> Aug  4 17:43:20 localhost pppd[11399]: Terminating on signal 15.

This might be the most pppd will tell us about missing ppp_deflate. 
Might want to check into this... maybe the rpm didn't install fully?

> Aug  4 17:43:26 localhost pppd[11399]: Connection terminated.
> Aug  4 17:43:26 localhost pppd[11399]: Connect time 4.3 minutes.
> Aug  4 17:43:26 localhost pppd[11399]: Sent 78191 bytes, received 363790 
> bytes.
> Aug  4 17:43:26 localhost pppd[11399]: Exit.
> Aug  4 17:43:26 localhost /etc/hotplug/net.agent: NET unregister event not 
> supported

Are you using anything in a firewire or USB port?

> Aug  4 17:43:44 localhost gnome-name-server[1229]: input condition is: 0x11, 
> exiting
> Aug  4 17:43:46 localhost su(pam_unix)[11187]: session closed for user root
> Aug  4 17:44:50 localhost gconfd (korosi-1232): GConf server is not in use, 
> shutting down.
> Aug  4 17:44:50 localhost gconfd (korosi-1232): Exiting

Because X died gconfd exits as well as gnome-name-server.

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Re: browser errors

[Korosi Akos]

Hi Bryan!

Bryan Whitehead wrote:

> You might want to run memtest to make sure you don't have a memory
> problem..... (just to rule out a mem/hardware problem)

Unfortunately I have no program named memtest...
I looked through the rpm packages, and I didn't find anything like memtest.
Do you know in what package is it?
Or where can I get it (you know, I can not browse the net now, so if the 
program is less than 1 MB you could send it to my address...)

> >>Please remember that I am
> >>only guessing here, but I noted your comment that "HDD light is working
> >>(lighting for some time)". This makes me wonder if the system is trying
> >> to use the swap partition and running into trouble (or perhaps just
> >> getting VERY slow -- how long do you wait for the system to recover
> >> before rebooting?). Browsers tend to be memory hogs, so you might see
> >> this behavior only when running one.
> >
> > I put on CPU/MEM usage applet, and tried again.
> > You might be right about X is not freezing, just being slow (I didn't
> > wait for so many time before restart, jus about 5 minutes).
> > The next happen.
> > I start a browser (now everithing is ok), than log in to ISP (now ok
> > too), than start to browse the net, and then CPU usage is going mad
> > (full). And everithing is slow (but not freezed now, I tried now just
> > with opera). Then I started 'top' command, and saw that opera is using
> > the most the cpu. And this went to 2-3 minutes, than I stopped the
> > connection, but can not close opera. (It is still working, and can not be
> > closed, now for more than 10 minutes, and CPU usage is full (looking at
> > applet), and now I had to kill it with -9 option).
> > What can I do now?
>
> Check you java settings, Java can do this in many different browsers.
> Kaffe (a java vm shipped with most distros) is a peice of junk, and
> might be the only java available in your machine.

In Netscape (4.79) I looked for java settings, and I saw that java is enabled, 
but I can not enable java plugin! And in Application section for every java 
realtid thing there is: Unknown: Prompt User.
So I think, I have no java!?!
Can this couse the problem?
In /usr/lib/netscape/plugins there are:
- ShockwaveFlash.class
- cpPack1.jar
- libflashplayer.so
- libnullplugin.so
- plugger.so
(I put here Flashplayer plugins...)

And in /usr/lib/java/classes there are font.properties* files, and a few .jar 
files: ifc11.jar, iiop10.jar, jae40.jar, java40.jar, jio40.jar, joptio40.jar, 
jsd10.jar, ldap40.jar resource.jar and scd10.jar and thats all.

What should I check, and how?
I also searched in rpm packages for kaffe, and for any java related thing,
but I didn't find kaffe, nor any java related thing except gcc-java.
Should I get jvm?

> Also, try using a different browser like plain netscape 4.xx or mozilla.

I tryed with Netscape 4.79
The next happened:
First I started Netscape, than I connect to ISP, than start to browse, 
(everything was OK!!!), than pppd died with exit status 16 (modem hangup).
I reconnected than to ISP. Continue browsing. Then Netscape dropped out 
(vanished its window), than I started Netscape again, and then I browsed the 
net with 3 Netscape window the net for 5 minutes with n.o p.r.o.b.l.e.m!!!
It was a great feeling :-)
But previously (for 2 weeks) Netscape coused the same error, as opera (like 
freezing), but now it was OK.
I didn't changed nothing on my computer...
I will keep trying and testing, and will post to the list the results.

> >>If that is not it ... what are the last few things the logs contain prior
> >>to a reboot out of this failure?
> >
> > I tried again, to generate log messages.
> > Now the next happened:
> > Start Opera, log to ISP, start browsing. For 1-2 minutes everything is
> > ok. Then got the CPU usage to max. I wait for a while (3 minutes), the
> > CPU usage is maximal, opera is not responding to mouse click, if I drag a
> > window over opera, the window is makink a trail over opera. If I change
> > to other workspace and back, opera is white (this happened in the
> > previous case too). The connection speed graph gets zigzag (little
> > zigzag, in one second 1.5 kb than 0, and again...)
> > Then I disconnected from ISP, and than X aborted!
> > The message of X (I start it from text mode, so I see messages after
> > abort):
> >
> > Fatal server error:
> > Caught signal 11. Server aborting
>
> This is why I ask you to check your memory settings and test the memory.
> Are you overclocking?

I don't no for any program to check...
I'm not overclocking, everything works with it's default speed.

> > --------------------------------------
> > Aug  4 17:38:30 localhost kernel: hsf_break_ctl: modem does not presently
> > support sending/receiving BREAK
> > Aug  4 17:39:04 localhost modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module ppp0
> > Aug  4 17:39:04 localhost modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module ppp0
>
> This means ppp is built into kernel (otherwise you'd not be able to even
> connect to your ISP at all)

O.K.

> > Aug  4 17:39:04 localhost pppd[11399]: pppd 2.4.1 started by root, uid 0
> > Aug  4 17:39:04 localhost pppd[11399]: Using interface ppp0
> > Aug  4 17:39:04 localhost pppd[11399]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/ttyHSF0
> > Aug  4 17:39:04 localhost /etc/hotplug/net.agent: assuming ppp0 is
> > already up Aug  4 17:39:10 localhost pppd[11399]: Remote message: Login
> > Succeeded Aug  4 17:39:10 localhost modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate
> > module ppp-compress-21
> > Aug  4 17:39:10 localhost modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module
> > ppp-compress-21
>
> This might be a problem, you might not have the ppp_deflate module, or
> it's not built into the kernel. If this is true you might end up
> dropping ppp packets... But then again, we might get more error's from
> the pppd if ppp_deflate was missing.

I see ppp_deflate in 'cat /proc/modules'.
It means that I have it, is it right?

> > Aug  4 17:39:11 localhost pppd[11399]: local  IP address XXX.XXX.X.XXX
> > Aug  4 17:39:11 localhost pppd[11399]: remote IP address XXX.XXX.XXX.XX
> > Aug  4 17:43:20 localhost pppd[11399]: Terminating on signal 15.
>
> This might be the most pppd will tell us about missing ppp_deflate.
> Might want to check into this... maybe the rpm didn't install fully?
>
> > Aug  4 17:43:26 localhost pppd[11399]: Connection terminated.
> > Aug  4 17:43:26 localhost pppd[11399]: Connect time 4.3 minutes.
> > Aug  4 17:43:26 localhost pppd[11399]: Sent 78191 bytes, received 363790
> > bytes.
> > Aug  4 17:43:26 localhost pppd[11399]: Exit.
> > Aug  4 17:43:26 localhost /etc/hotplug/net.agent: NET unregister event
> > not supported
>
> Are you using anything in a firewire or USB port?

Yes, I have an APC Back-Ups CS 500.
(And I'm trying to get it work with powerd, but it's not going now...)
(But it is an other problem...)

> > Aug  4 17:43:44 localhost gnome-name-server[1229]: input condition is:
> > 0x11, exiting
> > Aug  4 17:43:46 localhost su(pam_unix)[11187]: session closed for user
> > root Aug  4 17:44:50 localhost gconfd (korosi-1232): GConf server is not
> > in use, shutting down.
> > Aug  4 17:44:50 localhost gconfd (korosi-1232): Exiting
>
> Because X died gconfd exits as well as gnome-name-server.

O.K.
So this is not a problem...

I hope the above informations could help you,
thanks in advance,
Akos

p.s.: Thanks to Riley Williams too, for his response. I will do as he said 
next time!



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