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From: Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>
To: Alexandru Elisei <alexandru.elisei@arm.com>
Cc: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	kvmarm@lists.cs.columbia.edu
Subject: Re: KVM/arm64: SPE: Translate VA to IPA on a stage 2 fault instead of pinning VM memory
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2022 11:29:03 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <04dea801e298374fb783bf0760b15241@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YuERKEjJh1qsZf8x@monolith.localdoman>

On 2022-07-27 11:19, Alexandru Elisei wrote:
> Hi Oliver,
> 
> Thank you for the help, replies below.
> 
> On Tue, Jul 26, 2022 at 10:51:21AM -0700, Oliver Upton wrote:
>> Hi Alex,
>> 
>> On Mon, Jul 25, 2022 at 11:06:24AM +0100, Alexandru Elisei wrote:
>> 
>> [...]
>> 
>> > > A funkier approach might be to defer pinning of the buffer until the SPE is
>> > > enabled and avoid pinning all of VM memory that way, although I can't
>> > > immediately tell how flexible the architecture is in allowing you to cache
>> > > the base/limit values.
>> >
>> > I was investigating this approach, and Mark raised a concern that I think
>> > might be a showstopper.
>> >
>> > Let's consider this scenario:
>> >
>> > Initial conditions: guest at EL1, profiling disabled (PMBLIMITR_EL1.E = 0,
>> > PMBSR_EL1.S = 0, PMSCR_EL1.{E0SPE,E1SPE} = {0,0}).
>> >
>> > 1. Guest programs the buffer and enables it (PMBLIMITR_EL1.E = 1).
>> > 2. Guest programs SPE to enable profiling at **EL0**
>> > (PMSCR_EL1.{E0SPE,E1SPE} = {1,0}).
>> > 3. Guest changes the translation table entries for the buffer. The
>> > architecture allows this.
>> > 4. Guest does an ERET to EL0, thus enabling profiling.
>> >
>> > Since KVM cannot trap the ERET to EL0, it will be impossible for KVM to pin
>> > the buffer at stage 2 when profiling gets enabled at EL0.
>> 
>> Not saying we necessarily should, but this is possible with FGT no?
> 
> It doesn't look to me like FEAT_FGT offers any knobs to trap ERET from 
> EL1.

See HFGITR.ERET.

Thanks,

         M.
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From: Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>
To: Alexandru Elisei <alexandru.elisei@arm.com>
Cc: Oliver Upton <oliver.upton@linux.dev>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	kvmarm@lists.cs.columbia.edu,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: KVM/arm64: SPE: Translate VA to IPA on a stage 2 fault instead of pinning VM memory
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2022 11:29:03 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <04dea801e298374fb783bf0760b15241@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YuERKEjJh1qsZf8x@monolith.localdoman>

On 2022-07-27 11:19, Alexandru Elisei wrote:
> Hi Oliver,
> 
> Thank you for the help, replies below.
> 
> On Tue, Jul 26, 2022 at 10:51:21AM -0700, Oliver Upton wrote:
>> Hi Alex,
>> 
>> On Mon, Jul 25, 2022 at 11:06:24AM +0100, Alexandru Elisei wrote:
>> 
>> [...]
>> 
>> > > A funkier approach might be to defer pinning of the buffer until the SPE is
>> > > enabled and avoid pinning all of VM memory that way, although I can't
>> > > immediately tell how flexible the architecture is in allowing you to cache
>> > > the base/limit values.
>> >
>> > I was investigating this approach, and Mark raised a concern that I think
>> > might be a showstopper.
>> >
>> > Let's consider this scenario:
>> >
>> > Initial conditions: guest at EL1, profiling disabled (PMBLIMITR_EL1.E = 0,
>> > PMBSR_EL1.S = 0, PMSCR_EL1.{E0SPE,E1SPE} = {0,0}).
>> >
>> > 1. Guest programs the buffer and enables it (PMBLIMITR_EL1.E = 1).
>> > 2. Guest programs SPE to enable profiling at **EL0**
>> > (PMSCR_EL1.{E0SPE,E1SPE} = {1,0}).
>> > 3. Guest changes the translation table entries for the buffer. The
>> > architecture allows this.
>> > 4. Guest does an ERET to EL0, thus enabling profiling.
>> >
>> > Since KVM cannot trap the ERET to EL0, it will be impossible for KVM to pin
>> > the buffer at stage 2 when profiling gets enabled at EL0.
>> 
>> Not saying we necessarily should, but this is possible with FGT no?
> 
> It doesn't look to me like FEAT_FGT offers any knobs to trap ERET from 
> EL1.

See HFGITR.ERET.

Thanks,

         M.
-- 
Jazz is not dead. It just smells funny...

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  reply	other threads:[~2022-07-27 10:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-04-19 13:51 KVM/arm64: SPE: Translate VA to IPA on a stage 2 fault instead of pinning VM memory Alexandru Elisei
2022-04-19 13:51 ` Alexandru Elisei
2022-04-19 14:10 ` Will Deacon
2022-04-19 14:10   ` Will Deacon
2022-04-19 14:44   ` Alexandru Elisei
2022-04-19 14:44     ` Alexandru Elisei
2022-04-19 14:59     ` Will Deacon
2022-04-19 14:59       ` Will Deacon
2022-04-19 15:20       ` Alexandru Elisei
2022-04-19 15:20         ` Alexandru Elisei
2022-04-19 15:35         ` Alexandru Elisei
2022-04-19 15:35           ` Alexandru Elisei
2022-07-25 10:06   ` Alexandru Elisei
2022-07-25 10:06     ` Alexandru Elisei
2022-07-26 17:51     ` Oliver Upton
2022-07-26 17:51       ` Oliver Upton
2022-07-27  9:30       ` Marc Zyngier
2022-07-27  9:30         ` Marc Zyngier
2022-07-27  9:52         ` Marc Zyngier
2022-07-27  9:52           ` Marc Zyngier
2022-07-27 10:38           ` Alexandru Elisei
2022-07-27 10:38             ` Alexandru Elisei
2022-07-27 16:06             ` Oliver Upton
2022-07-27 16:06               ` Oliver Upton
2022-07-27 10:56         ` Alexandru Elisei
2022-07-27 10:56           ` Alexandru Elisei
2022-07-27 11:18           ` Marc Zyngier
2022-07-27 11:18             ` Marc Zyngier
2022-07-27 12:10             ` Alexandru Elisei
2022-07-27 12:10               ` Alexandru Elisei
2022-07-27 10:19       ` Alexandru Elisei
2022-07-27 10:19         ` Alexandru Elisei
2022-07-27 10:29         ` Marc Zyngier [this message]
2022-07-27 10:29           ` Marc Zyngier
2022-07-27 10:44           ` Alexandru Elisei
2022-07-27 10:44             ` Alexandru Elisei
2022-07-27 11:08             ` Marc Zyngier
2022-07-27 11:08               ` Marc Zyngier
2022-07-27 11:57               ` Alexandru Elisei
2022-07-27 11:57                 ` Alexandru Elisei
2022-07-27 15:15                 ` Oliver Upton
2022-07-27 15:15                   ` Oliver Upton
2022-07-27 11:00       ` Alexandru Elisei
2022-07-27 11:00         ` Alexandru Elisei
2022-08-01 17:00     ` Will Deacon
2022-08-01 17:00       ` Will Deacon
2022-08-02  9:49       ` Alexandru Elisei
2022-08-02  9:49         ` Alexandru Elisei
2022-08-02 19:34         ` Oliver Upton
2022-08-02 19:34           ` Oliver Upton
2022-08-09 14:01           ` Alexandru Elisei
2022-08-09 14:01             ` Alexandru Elisei
2022-08-09 18:43             ` Oliver Upton
2022-08-09 18:43               ` Oliver Upton
2022-08-10  9:37               ` Alexandru Elisei
2022-08-10  9:37                 ` Alexandru Elisei
2022-08-10 15:25                 ` Oliver Upton
2022-08-10 15:25                   ` Oliver Upton
2022-08-12 13:05                   ` Alexandru Elisei
2022-08-12 13:05                     ` Alexandru Elisei
2022-08-17 15:05                     ` Oliver Upton
2022-08-17 15:05                       ` Oliver Upton
2022-09-12 14:50                       ` Alexandru Elisei
2022-09-12 14:50                         ` Alexandru Elisei
2022-09-13 10:58                         ` Oliver Upton
2022-09-13 10:58                           ` Oliver Upton
2022-09-13 12:41                           ` Alexandru Elisei
2022-09-13 12:41                             ` Alexandru Elisei
2022-09-13 14:13                             ` Oliver Upton
2022-09-13 14:13                               ` Oliver Upton
2023-01-03 14:26                               ` Alexandru Elisei
2023-01-03 14:26                                 ` Alexandru Elisei

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