From: Shameerali Kolothum Thodi via <qemu-arm@nongnu.org>
To: Donald Dutile <ddutile@redhat.com>,
Nicolin Chen <nicolinc@nvidia.com>,
Eric Auger <eric.auger@redhat.com>
Cc: "qemu-arm@nongnu.org" <qemu-arm@nongnu.org>,
"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
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"jgg@nvidia.com" <jgg@nvidia.com>, Linuxarm <linuxarm@huawei.com>,
"Wangzhou (B)" <wangzhou1@hisilicon.com>,
jiangkunkun <jiangkunkun@huawei.com>,
Jonathan Cameron <jonathan.cameron@huawei.com>,
"zhangfei.gao@linaro.org" <zhangfei.gao@linaro.org>
Subject: RE: [RFC PATCH 2/5] hw/arm/smmuv3: Add initial support for SMMUv3 Nested device
Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2024 08:17:01 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <0bd57012eb5d43008096a6d992aef8a4@huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <04c73d87-35ce-4e11-a906-17c1e2961387@redhat.com>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Donald Dutile <ddutile@redhat.com>
> Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2024 4:29 AM
> To: Shameerali Kolothum Thodi
> <shameerali.kolothum.thodi@huawei.com>; Nicolin Chen
> <nicolinc@nvidia.com>; Eric Auger <eric.auger@redhat.com>
> Cc: qemu-arm@nongnu.org; qemu-devel@nongnu.org;
> peter.maydell@linaro.org; jgg@nvidia.com; Linuxarm
> <linuxarm@huawei.com>; Wangzhou (B) <wangzhou1@hisilicon.com>;
> jiangkunkun <jiangkunkun@huawei.com>; Jonathan Cameron
> <jonathan.cameron@huawei.com>; zhangfei.gao@linaro.org
> Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 2/5] hw/arm/smmuv3: Add initial support for
> SMMUv3 Nested device
>
>
> >>> W.r.t naming, maybe something related to "hardware-accelerated"?
> >>>
> >> Given that 'accel' has been used for hw-acceleration elsewhere, that
> seems
> >> like a reasonable 'mode'.
> >> But, it needs a paramater to state was is being accelerated.
> >> i.e., the more global 'accel=kvm' has 'kvm'.
> >
> > I was thinking more like calling this hw accelerated nested SMMUv3
> emulation
> > as 'smmuv3-accel'. This avoids confusion with the already existing
> > 'iommu=smmuv3' that also has a nested emulation support.
> >
> > ie,
> > -device arm-smmuv3-accel,id=smmuv1,bus=pcie.1 \
> >
> I -think- you are saying below, that we have to think a bit more about this
> device tagging. I'm thinking more like
> - device arm-smmuv3,accel=<vcmdq>,id=smmu1,bus=pcie.1 \
Ok. But I think the initial suggestion to call this something else other than arm-smmuv3
came from the fact that it makes use of physical SMMUv3 nested stage support. This is
required for vfio-pci assignment. So I used "accel" in that context. That is what I
mean by basic functionality of this SMMUV3 device. If we need any additional accelerated
feature support then that can be provided as "properties" on top of this. Like,
- device arm-smmuv3-accel,id=smmu1,bus=pcie.1,vcmdq=on \
Or may be as Nicolin's suggestion(without explicit "vcmdq") of probing for vCMDQ
support transparently and falling back to basic support if not available.
I prefer the first one which gives an option to turn off if required. But don’t have any
strong opinion either way.
Thanks,
Shameer.
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From: Shameerali Kolothum Thodi via <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>
To: Donald Dutile <ddutile@redhat.com>,
Nicolin Chen <nicolinc@nvidia.com>,
Eric Auger <eric.auger@redhat.com>
Cc: "qemu-arm@nongnu.org" <qemu-arm@nongnu.org>,
"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
"peter.maydell@linaro.org" <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
"jgg@nvidia.com" <jgg@nvidia.com>, Linuxarm <linuxarm@huawei.com>,
"Wangzhou (B)" <wangzhou1@hisilicon.com>,
jiangkunkun <jiangkunkun@huawei.com>,
Jonathan Cameron <jonathan.cameron@huawei.com>,
"zhangfei.gao@linaro.org" <zhangfei.gao@linaro.org>
Subject: RE: [RFC PATCH 2/5] hw/arm/smmuv3: Add initial support for SMMUv3 Nested device
Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2024 08:17:01 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <0bd57012eb5d43008096a6d992aef8a4@huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <04c73d87-35ce-4e11-a906-17c1e2961387@redhat.com>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Donald Dutile <ddutile@redhat.com>
> Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2024 4:29 AM
> To: Shameerali Kolothum Thodi
> <shameerali.kolothum.thodi@huawei.com>; Nicolin Chen
> <nicolinc@nvidia.com>; Eric Auger <eric.auger@redhat.com>
> Cc: qemu-arm@nongnu.org; qemu-devel@nongnu.org;
> peter.maydell@linaro.org; jgg@nvidia.com; Linuxarm
> <linuxarm@huawei.com>; Wangzhou (B) <wangzhou1@hisilicon.com>;
> jiangkunkun <jiangkunkun@huawei.com>; Jonathan Cameron
> <jonathan.cameron@huawei.com>; zhangfei.gao@linaro.org
> Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 2/5] hw/arm/smmuv3: Add initial support for
> SMMUv3 Nested device
>
>
> >>> W.r.t naming, maybe something related to "hardware-accelerated"?
> >>>
> >> Given that 'accel' has been used for hw-acceleration elsewhere, that
> seems
> >> like a reasonable 'mode'.
> >> But, it needs a paramater to state was is being accelerated.
> >> i.e., the more global 'accel=kvm' has 'kvm'.
> >
> > I was thinking more like calling this hw accelerated nested SMMUv3
> emulation
> > as 'smmuv3-accel'. This avoids confusion with the already existing
> > 'iommu=smmuv3' that also has a nested emulation support.
> >
> > ie,
> > -device arm-smmuv3-accel,id=smmuv1,bus=pcie.1 \
> >
> I -think- you are saying below, that we have to think a bit more about this
> device tagging. I'm thinking more like
> - device arm-smmuv3,accel=<vcmdq>,id=smmu1,bus=pcie.1 \
Ok. But I think the initial suggestion to call this something else other than arm-smmuv3
came from the fact that it makes use of physical SMMUv3 nested stage support. This is
required for vfio-pci assignment. So I used "accel" in that context. That is what I
mean by basic functionality of this SMMUV3 device. If we need any additional accelerated
feature support then that can be provided as "properties" on top of this. Like,
- device arm-smmuv3-accel,id=smmu1,bus=pcie.1,vcmdq=on \
Or may be as Nicolin's suggestion(without explicit "vcmdq") of probing for vCMDQ
support transparently and falling back to basic support if not available.
I prefer the first one which gives an option to turn off if required. But don’t have any
strong opinion either way.
Thanks,
Shameer.
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2025-01-30 18:19 ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi via
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2024-11-08 12:52 ` [RFC PATCH 4/5] hw/arm/virt-acpi-build: Build IORT with multiple SMMU nodes Shameer Kolothum via
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2024-11-18 11:44 ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi via
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